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    wow GD that is pretty incredible. How do you have room for food?? lol

    Hoping to chat with you privately, gotta keep building up my posts so I can.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    GD also noticed you are not taking any AI. How are you getting away with this... Is something with your sups helping with this? What is your E2 running if you don't mind me asking?
    I needed an AI on once a week injections. Started at 1 mg on 120 mg of Test Cyp back in the day. Than reduced to .5 mg twice weekly to match my new twice weekly injections. After BW, E2 was still in low teens so we went to .25 mg twice a week. After BW, E2 was still in the low teens...so we suspended it.

    I am now in the high 20's and no sign of elevated E2 whatsoever.

    I train 4 days a week hard and have little body fat which all goes to help keep aromitization activity down.

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    GD,
    You list all your pre workout stuff. Do you drink all of that both before and after your workouts? I mean do you take c-4 and a protein shake along with Creatine and aginine? If so how do you do it? Just mix everything together ? Yummy. Just curious...and I have just purchased your amino acid suggestions and have been on the cialis( per your suggestion for vascularity) and love it so far. Thanks in advance.

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    I bookend my workouts with:

    Pre (1 hour before at least)
    Pre: C-4 (with water)
    Pre Workout Shakes
    Syntha-6 Isolate
    NOW L-Arginine Powder Pharmacy Grade Micronized
    BCAA's
    Creatine Monohydrate
    MYO-X

    Post (Immediately after)
    Post Workout Shakes
    Syntha-6 Isolate
    NOW L-Arginine Powder Pharmacy Grade Micronized
    BCAA's
    Creatine Monohydrate
    MYO-X

    I mix everything together and use 2% milk for the added protein and calcium/magnesium. All the studies I've read state book-ending workouts like this see up 15% better gains in lean muscle mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    I needed an AI on once a week injections. Started at 1 mg on 120 mg of Test Cyp back in the day. Than reduced to .5 mg twice weekly to match my new twice weekly injections. After BW, E2 was still in low teens so we went to .25 mg twice a week. After BW, E2 was still in the low teens...so we suspended it.

    I am now in the high 20's and no sign of elevated E2 whatsoever.

    I train 4 days a week hard and have little body fat which all goes to help keep aromitization activity down.
    Also wonder what your workout and cardio look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Alright. So I'm going to have to do a detailed write up at some point on all these amino-acids.

    As for gdevines protocol, it's ridiculous! (this means good!). Now, Citrulline is pretty much arginine by conversion, but is a better way to get arginine. So I'm considering dropping arginine going forward (After I finish the batch I made!).

    Tonight i took the following:

    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    3000 mg of L-Carnitine
    2000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    (Ran out of goat weed last week)

    I did back and bi's today. The pump was far more extreme than my usual pump. After hanging-concentration curls, I could barely lift my arms. Most of my vascularity has always been pretty average. Tonight, the veins on the backside of my forearms wrapped around to the front. Very nice.

    I'm going to attribute this extra pump to Tyrosine. The latest batch that I made myself has Lysine, Cystiene and Arginine in it, and I haven't experienced this kind of pump from it.

    So... 2 thumbs up on gdevines pre-workout.

    Veins are over-rated!

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    I don't mind veins but will any of this stuff cause weight gain. Is it full of calories???

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    Awesome info gdevine, thanks for sharing. I can't wait to start supplement shopping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    I don't mind veins but will any of this stuff cause weight gain. Is it full of calories???
    Study what these amino acids do; they all reduce weight!!!

    Any good well balanced protein shake is going to increase resting metabolic rate = weight lose.

    Right now, I am lean as I've ever been and I only watch what I eat so-so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Veins are over-rated!

    I guess it's all about the particular vein that you're talking about kel

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    I will be 53 in July and if I could I'd have sex every freaking day...right now it's at least three times a week and we've been together 15 years...and the sex is wild man

    Yea, and for those in-between days....thank you Internet
    Holy Crap your 53 and you're that built and ripped? Very inspiring. Are you naturally lean? Next up, we're gonna be asking for training tips.
    Great work, man. Keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Veins are over-rated!

    Over-saturated you mean? your veins have shadows.
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    You mentioned you take 1g of L-Tyrosine before bed. I was always under the impression that due its role in thyroid support, one would could maximize the benefit by taking it first thing in the morning? Perhaps my logic is more hearsay, but what's your reasoning for taking it at bed time?

    Also, do you switch or "cycle" between L-Tyrosine and 5-HTP? I've heard claims (and only just that) that by switching between the two pre-cursors, dopamine and serotonin levels stay within natural bounds, so to speak. In other words, you keep the delicate hormonal balance where as long-term supplementation can lead to depletion of one or the other.

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    L-Tyrosine
    L-Tyrosine - In-Depth Scientific Supplement Information | Examine.com

    I use it for many reasons mostly muscle and tissue repair which is done mostly when we sleep.

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    good stuff GD....couple q's....I kno u said u take the pharm grade now products....are they the same one u can find in stores like gnc ot vitamin stores? don't kno if its been asked or not but the cialis u take for bp(and other reasons ; ) .... ) is that the one from arr or a pharm grade? if the latter can I shoot u a pm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post
    good stuff GD....couple q's....I kno u said u take the pharm grade now products....are they the same one u can find in stores like gnc ot vitamin stores? don't kno if its been asked or not but the cialis u take for bp(and other reasons ; ) .... ) is that the one from arr or a pharm grade? if the latter can I shoot u a pm?
    I try to get as many of my supplements in Pharmacy Grade as possible. It means the compounds are pure and about as consistent dose to dose as it can get...they are regulated. And yes, most can be purchased in stores, just need to read the labels and make sure.

    My Tadalafil comes from an overseas pharmacy and it's the real deal...trust me on that

    gd

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    My Tadalafil comes from an overseas pharmacy and it's the real deal...trust me on that
    gd
    Would you be able to PM me the details on the pharmacy? I do not have PM capabilities yet. I need to come out from under my rock and participate a bit more.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    I guess it's all about the particular vein that you're talking about kel
    I like one particular vein on a man. Lol. Sorry I am female. 100% female. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    Study what these amino acids do; they all reduce weight!!!

    Any good well balanced protein shake is going to increase resting metabolic rate = weight lose.

    Right now, I am lean as I've ever been and I only watch what I eat so-so.
    All right. I have some reading to do. I don't know why I don't take any supplements. Guess I like doing it the dumb way....

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    GD, whats your take on stimulants?

    Do you use caffeine pre-workout or anything like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickenstirfry View Post
    GD, whats your take on stimulants?

    Do you use caffeine pre-workout or anything like that?
    He takes c4...

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Over-saturated you mean? your veins have shadows.
    That's funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    I like one particular vein on a man. Lol. Sorry I am female. 100% female. Lol.
    What a coincidence. I'm a man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    What a coincidence. I'm a man.
    That's nice!

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    gd what would you think of taking this pre workout mixed with something like N.O Explode/C-4/Assault or another PW instead of taking it in the morning...
    2000 mg of Beta-Alanine
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline
    5 g of Creatine

    Call in capsule form except for the creatine.....

    Basically looking for a good pump and vascularity..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    L-Tyrosine/Examine.com

    I use it for many reasons mostly muscle and tissue repair which is done mostly when we sleep.

    First... that site is awesome. I dunno how I've survived this long without it lol. It pretty much does all the hard work of scouring PubMed for you!

    Anyways, according to L-Tyrosine article, it says "one study has combined supplemental L-Tyrosine and 'extended wakefulness' and noted that 150mg/kg of L-Tyrosine was able to attenuate the decrease in cognitive performance that was associated with sleep deprivation." In my anecdotal and personal use, I've found L-Tyrosine (1000 mg) best taken in the mornings on an empty stomach. I usually feel a better sense of "well-being" the follow day - likely from the building and extended precursor to catecholamine synthesis.

    Though I cannot say taking L-Tyrosine at night isn't beneficial as well. I'm sure it's goal dependent, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r View Post
    gd what would you think of taking this pre workout mixed with something like N.O Explode/C-4/Assault or another PW instead of taking it in the morning...
    2000 mg of Beta-Alanine
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline
    5 g of Creatine

    Call in capsule form except for the creatine.....

    Basically looking for a good pump and vascularity..
    I like it. From what I know about Beta-Alanine it has shown to increase muscle strength and endurance when stressed...like a work out.

    I'd still keep keep L-Carnitine in the stack however.

    See what works for you.

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    Ok I'll give it a shot, Been thinking about making my own pre workout for awhile now. Thanks, do you think there is a big difference between powder and capsule form??

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r View Post
    Ok I'll give it a shot, Been thinking about making my own pre workout for awhile now. Thanks, do you think there is a big difference between powder and capsule form??
    No there is no difference between powder and pill UNLESS one or the other is micronized.

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    Wanna add and extra "umph" to my stack?

    Try Pycnogenol: Pycnogenol: MedlinePlus Supplements

    Bit expensive but many AA Doc's love the stuff.

    I tried it in my stack and there seems to be a benefit but when I cut it I didn't see much of a drop off in vascularity.

    But there are many other benefits to the amino acid as noted in the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Wanna add and extra "umph" to my stack?

    Try Pycnogenol: Pycnogenol: MedlinePlus Supplements

    Bit expensive but many AA Doc's love the stuff.

    I tried it in my stack and there seems to be a benefit but when I cut it I didn't see much of a drop off in vascularity.

    But there are many other benefits to the amino acid as noted in the link.
    dang it gd. My eyes are getting old. You're making me read for days now..

    ... Of course, I love it, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    dang it gd. My eyes are getting old. You're making me read for days now..

    ... Of course, I love it, thanks!
    Pycnogenol is just good shit Austin...like I said, a bit expensive, but has huge health benefits.

    Added to the stack is an option if one really wants to max out...and it loves Tadalafil and Arginine!

    More: http://examine.com/supplements/Pycnogenol/
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Pycnogenol is just good shit Austin...like I said, a bit expensive, but has huge health benefits.

    Added to the stack is an option if one really wants to max out...and it loves Tadalafil and Arginine!

    More: http://examine.com/supplements/Pycnogenol/
    lol, that's where I am. Gonna go through some of the studies. Thanks again GD.
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    So gd, if i could bench press 405 with a total of 90 T. Is it possible by following this protocol i could hit maybe 810?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    So gd, if i could bench press 405 with a total of 90 T. Is it possible by following this protocol i could hit maybe 810?
    No. And I don't think 405 would like to be benched!

    Joking aside, what do you mean 90 T?
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    Haha that made me chuckle. 90 was my actual testosterone level one blood test. Lol awful right? Ooo how many hours of sleep a night too. Thats gotta be important

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    So gd, if i could bench press 405 with a total of 90 T. Is it possible by following this protocol i could hit maybe 810?
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    No. And I don't think 405 would like to be benched!
    LOL.. funny fellow!
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    I think I'm going to go with:
    L-Citrulline
    L-Arginine
    L-Tyrosine
    Beta Alanine
    AAKG
    Caffeine

    Not sure on dosages I figured I'd have to mess with those to get them to fit me but what do you think of this gd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r View Post
    I think I'm going to go with:
    L-Citrulline
    L-Arginine
    L-Tyrosine
    Beta Alanine
    AAKG
    Caffeine

    Not sure on dosages I figured I'd have to mess with those to get them to fit me but what do you think of this gd?
    Add in L-Carnitine and take 3 times daily; before bed, when you wake and in the afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Add in L-Carnitine and take 3 times daily; before bed, when you wake and in the afternoon.
    So not just pre workout?? You recommend taking that often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r View Post
    So not just pre workout?? You recommend taking that often?
    Yes, if you want that constant vascular and hard look.

    If you want to take it just as a pre workout stack you can do that as well.

    Just depends upon what your goals are.

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