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    Hi guys,

    I was on here a couple of months back.


    Winny Only cycle and no pct. stupi I know.


    I was unable to get any clomid as advised but have some now. In the meantime I had my bloods done. Below.


    Still lacking libido etc. advice would be appreciated




















    Sodium
    144







    137-146
    mmol/L
    Potassium
    4.6







    3.5-5.0
    mmol/L
    Chloride
    105







    95-110
    mmol/L
    Bicarbonate
    31







    24-31
    mmol/L
    Urea
    6.7







    3.0-8.5
    mmol/L
    Creatinine
    122







    60-120
    umol/L
    eGFR
    61








    mL/minBSAc
    eGFR: Result between 60 and 90 mL/min/1.73m2 Body Surface Area corrected








    0.70-1.40
    mmol/L
    Magnesium
    0.80







    0.70-1.05
    mmol/L
    Calcium
    2.35







    2.10-2.60
    mmol/L
    Albumin
    47







    36-52
    g/L
    Tot. protein
    70







    60-82
    g/L
    Tot.bilirubin
    11







    0-18
    umol/L
    ALT
    23







    0-30
    U/L
    AST
    23







    0-30
    U/L
    Alk. phos.
    42







    30-100
    U/L
    GGT
    15







    0-35
    U/L
    Free T4
    16.3







    11.0-22.0
    pmol/L
    Free T3
    4.6







    3.0-6.2
    pmol/L
    TSH
    0.95







    0.40-4.20
    mIU/L
    Prolactin
    225







    50-350
    mIU/L
    FSH
    3.2







    1.5-13.0
    IU/L
    HLH
    3.4







    1.7-8.6
    IU/L
    Cortisol
    581







    200-700
    nmol/L
    Cortisol note: Serum cortisol reference interval is for samples
    taken between 7 and 10am. Lower results may be expected later in the
    day.
    ACTH
    8.4







    0.0-12.0
    pmol/L
    Andros/dione
    5.5







    2.8-6.7
    nmol/L
    DHEAS
    7.3







    5.3-9.0
    umol/L
    Oestradiol
    72







    0-160
    pmol/L
    SHBG
    41







    15-50
    nmol/L
    ANDROGENS: New assays for Testosterone , SHBG and Free Androgen Index introduced
    on 4th Jan 2012. Note reference intervals have been revised. (Dr Graham Jones)
    Testosterone
    20.5







    10.0-32.0
    nmol/L
    ANDROGENS: New assays for Testosterone, SHBG and Free Androgen Index introduced
    on 4th Jan 2012. Note reference intervals have been revised. (Dr Graham Jones)
    Growth hormon
    < 0.4







    0.0-10.0
    mU/L
    IGF 1
    27.8







    15.0-50.0
    nmol/L
    25 - OH Vit D
    71







    50-150
    nmol/L
    Vitamin D: Clinical decision point for 25-hydroxy vitamin D
    increased to 50 nmol/L to match Australian recommendations (Med J
    Aust 2005;182:281-5).

    Mild deficiency: 25 - 50 nmol/L

    Moderate deficiency: 13 - 25 nmol/L

    Severe deficiency: <13 nmol/L (Dr G Jones 6th September 2011)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMI10 View Post
    Hi guys,

    I was on here a couple of months back.

    Winny Only cycle and no pct. stupi I know.

    I was unable to get any clomid as advised but have some now. In the meantime I had my bloods done. Below.

    Still lacking libido etc. advice would be appreciated

    Sodium
    144

    137-146
    mmol/L
    Potassium
    4.6

    3.5-5.0
    mmol/L
    Chloride
    105

    95-110
    mmol/L
    Bicarbonate
    31

    24-31
    mmol/L
    Urea
    6.7

    3.0-8.5
    mmol/L
    Creatinine
    122

    60-120
    umol/L
    eGFR
    61

    mL/minBSAc
    eGFR: Result between 60 and 90 mL/min/1.73m2 Body Surface Area corrected

    0.70-1.40
    mmol/L
    Magnesium
    0.80

    0.70-1.05
    mmol/L
    Calcium
    2.35

    2.10-2.60
    mmol/L
    Albumin
    47

    36-52
    g/L
    Tot. protein
    70

    60-82
    g/L
    Tot.bilirubin
    11

    0-18
    umol/L
    ALT
    23

    0-30
    U/L
    AST
    23

    0-30
    U/L
    Alk. phos.
    42

    30-100
    U/L
    GGT
    15

    0-35
    U/L
    Free T4
    16.3

    11.0-22.0
    pmol/L
    Free T3
    4.6

    3.0-6.2
    pmol/L
    TSH
    0.95

    0.40-4.20
    mIU/L
    Prolactin
    225

    50-350
    mIU/L
    FSH
    3.2

    1.5-13.0
    IU/L
    HLH
    3.4

    1.7-8.6
    IU/L
    Cortisol
    581

    200-700
    nmol/L
    Cortisol note: Serum cortisol reference interval is for samples
    taken between 7 and 10am. Lower results may be expected later in the
    day.
    ACTH
    8.4

    0.0-12.0
    pmol/L
    Andros/dione
    5.5

    2.8-6.7
    nmol/L
    DHEAS
    7.3

    5.3-9.0
    umol/L
    Oestradiol
    72

    0-160
    pmol/L
    SHBG
    41

    15-50
    nmol/L
    ANDROGENS: New assays for Testosterone , SHBG and Free Androgen Index introduced
    on 4th Jan 2012. Note reference intervals have been revised. (Dr Graham Jones)
    Testosterone
    20.5

    10.0-32.0
    nmol/L
    ANDROGENS: New assays for Testosterone, SHBG and Free Androgen Index introduced
    on 4th Jan 2012. Note reference intervals have been revised. (Dr Graham Jones)
    Growth hormon
    < 0.4

    0.0-10.0
    mU/L
    IGF 1
    27.8

    15.0-50.0
    nmol/L
    25 - OH Vit D
    71

    50-150
    nmol/L
    Vitamin D: Clinical decision point for 25-hydroxy vitamin D
    increased to 50 nmol/L to match Australian recommendations (Med J
    Aust 2005;182:281-5).

    Mild deficiency: 25 - 50 nmol/L

    Moderate deficiency: 13 - 25 nmol/L

    Severe deficiency: <13 nmol/L (Dr G Jones 6th September 2011)
    I posted a similar thread in the main forum called Testosterone Levels . They outlined all of these tests I'm sure you will get some help I'm going through a similar situation. Hang in there.

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    You'd probably get more help if you organized your blood work like everyone else does.

    Anyways Testosterone 20.5
    10.0-32.0

    SHBG-41
    15-50 nmol/L

    So your test is in the middle range but with your high SHBG, your free test is going to be on the low end, which is causing your symptoms.

    When did you finish your winstrol cycle?

    I supposed you could just run your clomid now as if you were doing a pct, hpta restart, and retest bloods 6 weeks after. Also your vitamin D is low, supplement with 5-10k vitamin d3 a day, this will in turn lower your SHBG freeing up some of your bound testosterone.

    Lastly, if you are going to run a cycle again, which hopefully you wont as you see how you feel now, you need to be educated on what you're doing. Winny only cycle is preposterous. Any aas be it winstrol, anavar etc will eventually cause hpta shutdown as you now know. You can come on this very forum, just in the anabolic section and ask on how to run your cycle, but PCT is a must. Not scolding you brotha, but you need to know what you're dealing with, steroids aren't a joke as you now know.
    Last edited by jomamma007; 04-11-2013 at 09:07 AM.

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    HI mate, thank you very much for the advice. You are absolutely right, i need more help before doing again.

    I stopped my cycle 1st week in January, so its been 3 month now??

    So clomid and vitamin d3 should do the rick or do I need anything else?

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