Dosing options for Aromasin/Exemetane for TRT Protocol?

[2Sox]

I looked it up, do you have to be a licensed health practitioner to sign up or did i do it wrong?

You've got to look on the left where it says "Patients Website".

[Rusty11]

Actually, I just ordered 30mL of 25mg/mL Exemestane for $29 from a source that I researched as very dependable. PM me if interested.

Hey bud. How's that working for you? I believe you were dosing at6.25 ed or eod. My e2 is at 41. Feel fine, but a bit of bloat. I've only taken dim and zinc/copper for e2. I'm considering arr's liquid stane at6.25 ed??? Not sure yet. I'm on a gel, so not sure if this will be too much.

[BigPimpin76]

Hey bud. How's that working for you? I believe you were dosing at6.25 ed or eod. My e2 is at 41. Feel fine, but a bit of bloat. I've only taken dim and zinc/copper for e2. I'm considering arr's liquid stane at6.25 ed??? Not sure yet. I'm on a gel, so not sure if this will be too much.

How much should a 30 ml bottle last if you dont mind me asking?

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[2Sox]

Hey bud. How's that working for you? I believe you were dosing at6.25 ed or eod. My e2 is at 41. Feel fine, but a bit of bloat. I've only taken dim and zinc/copper for e2. I'm considering arr's liquid stane at6.25 ed??? Not sure yet. I'm on a gel, so not sure if this will be too much.

Hey Rusty. Nice to see you.

It seems to be working okay. I'm kind of experimenting at this point and changing dosing around according to how I feel but not more than 6.25mg/day average. (It seems I need more on my hCG days. So I'd take 12.5mg that day and skip the next day.) On Quest, my E2 is at 39 - just about where you're at. I think 6.25mg/day MIGHT be the right dose for me. It may sound strange but my guide is night/morning erections and my subjective evaluation of my libido. It's kind of hit and miss right now. Just too soon to tell. But I like this WAY better than Adex. The rebound of it was intolerable to me.

I wish I had more subjective data on this to guide me.

By the way, after some bad experiences, I'd recommed people stay away from UGL meds. I had a VERY bad experience on liquid Exemenstane from another supplier. Awful GI problems. You just don't know what they dissolve these meds in and there are no controls or oversight of ANY kind. And you can't complain because these are "research" chems not intended for human consumption. I bit the bullet, got a script and paid my copay.

[Rusty11]

Hey Rusty. Nice to see you.

It seems to be working okay. I'm kind of experimenting at this point and changing dosing around according to how I feel but not more than 6.25mg/day average. (It seems I need more on my hCG days. So I'd take 12.5mg that day and skip the next day.) On Quest, my E2 is at 39 - just about where you're at. I think 6.25mg/day MIGHT be the right dose for me. It may sound strange but my guide is night/morning erections and my subjective evaluation of my libido. It's kind of hit and miss right now. Just too soon to tell. But I like this WAY better than Adex. The rebound of it was intolerable to me.

I wish I had more subjective data on this to guide me.

Great info. Thanks for responding. Just making sure you didn't crash your e2. That's what is holding me back. I did read the ai thread by jimmy stating it's not going to crash, but I'm an over cautious person.

[ppwc1985]

I might try this, stane is all I have used on cycle and it always worked great. Now on trt adex is hell on my lipids. Good read.

[EverettCD]

I have been dosing 6.25 mg morning & evening for the past 5 days. So far so good, I like Liquid Stane much better than Liquidex at this point. I'll have BW drawn in a few weeks to see where I'm at.

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[2Sox]

Great info. Thanks for responding. Just making sure you didn't crash your e2. That's what is holding me back. I did read the ai thread by jimmy stating it's not going to crash, but I'm an over cautious person.

I think 6.25mg EOD or 12.5mg E3D might be a better option for me considering what I indicated previously regarding my self evaluation. I'll post updates here..

[Machdiesel]

So I'm pretty dialed in, just waiting for bloods to confirm. For reference I was on 120mg a week and my e2 was 51. Had itchy nips and the onset of gyno. At this dose my test was 689 so decided to up dose to 140mg a week(70mg 2x a week) started at 12.5 to get it down fast to prevent gyno. After a week at this dose I felt good, no signs of low estrogen so thought I would keep it there. Then one day I had to skip my dose and woke up with a raging hard on and felt alil better. So although my e2 wasn't crashed, it may have been to low on 12.5 ed. Went to 6.25 and saw an increase in libido so stayed there. Nips/gyno seems under control at 6.25 so gonna get bloodwork in a few weeks. Decided to get dialed In with a dose I feel best at then confirm with bloods

[Machdiesel]

I have been dosing 6.25 mg morning & evening for the past 5 days. So far so good, I like Liquid Stane much better than Liquidex at this point. I'll have BW drawn in a few weeks to see where I'm at.


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I wish my pharmacy could do liquid stane. Although much easier, I'll deal with the hassle of breaking up pills if it means it comes straight from a us pharmacy

[2Sox]

Updated information and GENERAL WARNING:

I would be EXTREMELY hesitant about ordering ANYTHING from an UGL for so called, "research chemicals". I just got back blood work with extremely elevated liver enzymes - ALT and AST - and the ONLY thing that I changed in my protocol was taking liquid exemestane from a supplier different from the site sponsor. No change in diet at all. I only took 3 very small doses of 6.25mg but I experienced extreme gastric pain and gas each time. At first I thought it was something I ate but I quickly realized the cause. (BTW, the bloods were taken the day after my last dose.) I am continuing with the Liquid Cia - to be sure this is not the cause. If I PM'd you the site name, DO NOT order from this place.

I will update upon my next BW.

[2Sox]

I have been dosing 6.25 mg morning & evening for the past 5 days. So far so good, I like Liquid Stane much better than Liquidex at this point. I'll have BW drawn in a few weeks to see where I'm at.

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I would advise you be very careful with this dosing schedule. I'm learning that although exemestane is a much "gentler" AI than adex, it still does its job VERY well, and I am seeing - from what I'm experiencing now - that low E2 can literally sneak up on you - especially with exemestane which doesn't have that rebound effect.

I was dosing 6.25mg/day for awhile and my libido and night/morning erections gradually started to disappear. "Gradually" is the key word here. I've been thinking hard on this (no pun intended) for some time now. This is how I see it: Any AI can be used more frequently at the beginning of treatment ONLY - to get E2 levels down to an ideal level. But then you have to find the dose that works long term - to keep that ideal level stable. THAT'S the trick, as I see it.

Edit: As a general rule, I think the best approach would be to just to start out low until you see results. I don't see the necessity of hitting E2 hard unless there is an urgent issue, like gyno.

I know my E2 is low now; low energy, low libido, poor erection quality. Nothing horrible but just no fun, no spark. So I'm cutting back to 6.25mg every 4 days. I'll report back to you all. But I'd really like to know other's thoughts on this.

[BigPimpin76]

As of today I purchase Pharma grade Aromasin . Kinda expensive but I had no other choice.
Today I was feeling grogy but after I took my 25 mg dose I started to feel much more clear in the head.
After today I will be dosing at 12.5 mg daily and see how I feel.
I have been on TRT for about 4 months now and I haven't seen much of morning wood. I must have had a fake batch of Adex. It seemed it did not get the job done!
Now that I have the legit stuff I hope it goes well!
I will keep you posted

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[2Sox]

As of today I purchase Pharma grade Aromasin . Kinda expensive but I had no other choice.
Today I was feeling grogy but after I took my 25 mg dose I started to feel much more clear in the head.
After today I will be dosing at 12.5 mg daily and see how I feel.
I have been on TRT for about 4 months now and I haven't seen much of morning wood. I must have had a fake batch of Adex. It seemed it did not get the job done!
Now that I have the legit stuff I hope it goes well!
I will keep you posted

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Watch things very closely.

[BigPimpin76]

Watch things very closely.

I will for sure!!
Any tips you may have in regards to your knowledge that you can pass on to us bros?
Dosing time etc?

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[BigPimpin76]

Does high estrogen hinder in fat loss?
Specifically abdominal fat?

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[EverettCD]

I would advise you be very careful with this dosing schedule. I'm learning that although exemestane is a much "gentler" AI than adex, it still does its job VERY well, and I am seeing - from what I'm experiencing now - that low E2 can literally sneak up on you - especially with exemestane which doesn't have that rebound effect.

I was dosing 6.25mg/day for awhile and my libido and night/morning erections gradually started to disappear. "Gradually" is the key word here. I've been thinking hard on this (no pun intended) for some time now. This is how I see it: Any AI can be used more frequently at the beginning of treatment ONLY - to get E2 levels down to an ideal level. But then you have to find the dose that works long term - to keep that ideal level stable. THAT'S the trick, as I see it.

Edit: As a general rule, I think the best approach would be to just to start out low until you see results. I don't see the necessity of hitting E2 hard unless there is an urgent issue, like gyno.

I know my E2 is low now; low energy, low libido, poor erection quality. Nothing horrible but just no fun, no spark. So I'm cutting back to 6.25mg every 4 days. I'll report back to you all. But I'd really like to know other's thoughts on this.

I am picking up what you're putting down 2sox.

About a week ago I began feeling like my E2 was getting slightly low for me. Since then I have been dosing 6.25mg every day in the A.M. At this time this appears to be a good dose for me. I had BW done a earlier this week & the results should be emailed to me any day now so I'll see where I'm at.

This thread is another good example that we all react differently to TRT medications & protocols. What works for one person may or may not work for the next person.

Lets keep this thread current. It's very helpful to us using Aromasin with our TRT. Have a good day guy's.

[EverettCD]

Does high estrogen hinder in fat loss? Yes.
Specifically abdominal fat? Yes.

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In BOLD.

When me E2 was too high for "me" it was next to impossible to loose any body fat, especially abdominal fat.

[BigPimpin76]

In BOLD. When me E2 was too high for "me" it was next to impossible to loose any body fat, especially abdominal fat.

Thanks Everett!!

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[BigPimpin76]

my estradiol was at 41.1 so i have been running 6.25 mg aromasin every day. Getting blood work friday, will post results so stay tuned...

How did it go on your results?
Did the Aromasin help?

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[kcwebguy]

I am also looking to start Aromasin . This information is helpful for me and my doctor as we try to dial me in correctly.

[BigPimpin76]

Been on Aromasin 12.5 mg daily for the past few days! Noticed enhanced libido.
I also noticed slight lethargy. Will this side subside? Should I lower dose to 6. Mg ?
Or every other day dosing?
Thanks in advance

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[2Sox]

Been on Aromasin 12.5 mg daily for the past few days! Noticed enhanced libido.
I also noticed slight lethargy. Will this side subside? Should I lower dose to 6. Mg ?
Or every other day dosing?
Thanks in advance

Only you can answer this question by trial and error. Lethargy can be low E2 (or high) or it can even be dehydration. Believe me, I've been there. When I've felt that way, I'd drink a glass or two of OJ water and felt different immediately. Dehydration is insidious and can often be mistaken for symptoms of high or low E2 - especially for us guys who are on TRT - and PDE5 inhibiters like Cialis and BPH medications which lower blood pressure, AND are hyper aware of our physical condition. First keep hydrated and see how you feel.

In my opinion, 12.5mg is a very high dose for TRT - so draw your own conclusions. Keep and eye on your labs, of course.

I changed my dosing slightly: I take hCG every four days. On those two days only, I will be taking 12.5mg of Aromasin - that's 12.5mg every four days. So I'm going to continue with this awhile and see how I feel and what my BW says in a few days.

[BigPimpin76]

Thanks Sox!!
I will split the dose every E3D and see what goes !!
So 12.5 Every day is too much?

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[2Sox]

Thanks Sox!!
I will split the dose every E3D and see what goes !!
So 12.5 Every day is too much?

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I've developed a very healthy respect for AIs. I'd recommend that anyone on TRT to do the same.

[2Sox]

Just an update:

Trying to go 12.5mg exemestane 1x/week - a.m. If I take it sooner, it seems wood and libido is negatively affected - however subtle. I think this might be a good dose for me. Time will tell.

Present protocol: hCG , 100iu/day. T-cyp, 15mg/day. Both a.m. in the same syringe.

Feeling excellent. Will report back.

Curious about the experience of others. Comments or questions I'm sure will benefit us all.

[zerodarkthirty]

2Sox, just my 2 cents -- but when I was doing a daily or every other day dosing of Test, the AI (in any dose or flavor) was too strong. I felt ok, but never great. Moving my injections to every 4-5 days in combination with your 100 IU HCG daily and Aromasin as needed has worked much better for me. I know everyone is different. I have never used the liquid exemestane found online, so maybe it is slightly different than the prescription pills? I generally take 12.5 mg of the Aromasin the day after my Test injection. I know many people here advocate the multi-doses of test throughout the week to remain at a more stable level of T, but for me, that didn't ring the bell. Good luck!

[2Sox]

2Sox, just my 2 cents -- but when I was doing a daily or every other day dosing of Test, the AI (in any dose or flavor) was too strong. I felt ok, but never great. Moving my injections to every 4-5 days in combination with your 100 IU HCG daily and Aromasin as needed has worked much better for me. I know everyone is different. I have never used the liquid exemestane found online, so maybe it is slightly different than the prescription pills? I generally take 12.5 mg of the Aromasin the day after my Test injection. I know many people here advocate the multi-doses of test throughout the week to remain at a more stable level of T, but for me, that didn't ring the bell. Good luck!

Thank you for the suggestion. It's worth consideration. I'll stick with what I'm doing now and give it a chance for several months. I have nothing but time!

I agree with your decision not to use online exemestane. I purchased some from another supplier and it shot my liver values into cirrhosis territory! No exaggeration. My BW showed it and my wife, who is a PA, was shocked by the readings. I stopped it after three doses because I was having abdominal pain each time I dosed. It took me that long to figure it was the med and not something I ate! I steer VERY clear of online peptide sites. They can use any shite they want in their products, you don't know what's in them, you don't know the true "count", and if something goes wrong, tough luck. You can't complain or go to authorities because the stuff is "not for human consumption". Very dangerous gambling.

If you'd like to know the places to stay away from, PM me.

I'm presently trying a dosing regimen of 12.5mg every 7 or 8 days. Believe it or not, my measuring stick is evening and morning erections. (Forgive the play on words.) If they start to disappear, it's time to dose.

[booku]

for what its worth i'm using 300 mg of T a week with 10 mg of aromasin once a day (from site sponsor) and my trough E2 (twice/week injections) was 20 pg/ml, this was the standard estradiol which life extension recommends over the sensitive one because they say the sensitive test is only when E2 is very low

[2Sox]

Interesting. How often do you dose the Aromasin ?

[Beethoven]

for what its worth i'm using 300 mg of T a week with 10 mg of aromasin once a day (from site sponsor) and my trough E2 (twice/week injections) was 20 pg/ml, this was the standard estradiol which life extension recommends over the sensitive one because they say the sensitive test is only when E2 is very low

So you dose 10 mg a daily? If I may ask, why test dose of 300 mg?

[2Sox]

^^^Thanks for pointing this out, B. I was reading and responding to this on my smartphone while I was at the gym.

I second your question. 300mg/week dose is very surprising. Why so high?

[Beethoven]

2sox are you still at 12.5 mg per week?

[2Sox]

Now at 12.5mg every 5.5-6 days. Looking good.

[BigPimpin76]

^^^Thanks for pointing this out, B. I was reading and responding to this on my smartphone while I was at the gym. I second your question. 300mg/week dose is very surprising. Why so high?

Interested as well....

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[BigPimpin76]

for what its worth i'm using 300 mg of T a week with 10 mg of aromasin once a day (from site sponsor) and my trough E2 (twice/week injections) was 20 pg/ml, this was the standard estradiol which life extension recommends over the sensitive one because they say the sensitive test is only when E2 is very low

Let us know why 300 mg wkly?

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[booku]

Let us know why 300 mg wkly?

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its just for bodybuilding purposes, ill drop it down to probably 140 a week with 6.25 mg aromasin ED, and see what my E2 looks like at that cruising level, love aromasin!

[bethdoth]

I have been using liquid Stane from site sponsor for about 18 months and my E2 stays pretty good at 26. I read somewhere that you should dose stane 24 hours after your test. So I do 25mg twice a week Monday morning and Thursday evening. This works for me as long as I keep my test the same. I have noticed ***FOR ME*** when my total test starts getting north of 850 my E2 goes up. After reading some of the great threads on here I have dialed back my test to 70MG every 3.5 days (subQ) which seems to be the best FOR ME! Test around 700 and E2 at 26.

[dreadnok89]

Also depends how much fat you have. Estorgen loves fat. Im a bigger guy and always have estrogen problems. Liquid stane from site sponsor is great!

[y1der]

Thanks Sox!!
I will split the dose every E3D and see what goes !!
So 12.5 Every day is too much?

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I am running TRT test c 100mg weekly, i do liquid aromasin at 6.25 e3d, will be getting bloods done in 3 weeks, e level was 38 when my test level was 264 and my target is 700 ish total test with a 20 ish free test (3%) and my target estradiol level im shooting for 21-30..this is my first post here i think..but im on evo and elite same name..