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    So im doing my research infront of my first trt-appointment wednesday

    A friend of mine at the gym in his 50s is given testogel which gives him a stabil 650.

    At the gelinfo i read that u are supposed to put on 5 g ed and 5 g contains 50 g testosteron.

    Isnt this much for trt?
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    Everyone absorbs the gel different but you will only absorb a proportion of it no matter how much you absorb. I think you can help increase absorption using moisturiser after.

    I used it as my initial therapy but applying everyday and waiting for it to dry and risk of transfer to my daughter means I changed it pretty quickly. Felt ok on it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Everyone absorbs the gel different but you will only absorb a proportion of it no matter how much you absorb. I think you can help increase absorption using moisturiser after.

    I used it as my initial therapy but applying everyday and waiting for it to dry and risk of transfer to my daughter means I changed it pretty quickly. Felt ok on it though.
    I was initially given testogel like BiB was.

    My levels crashed on it. I felt worse than ever, and I had the same problem with the kids. At the time my daughter was a couple months old, and I had to avoid touching her, or my son while this fucking gel dried/soaked in.

    BiB is right about the fact that it does work well for some, and not others. There is a lot of people suggesting that moisturiser on top of the gel increases absorption, but I don't recall any studies or evidence to prove it.

    I have an underlying suspicion that the testogel effectiveness is dependent on BF%. Of course, that's just my own theory!


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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post

    I was initially given testogel like BiB was.

    My levels crashed on it. I felt worse than ever, and I had the same problem with the kids. At the time my daughter was a couple months old, and I had to avoid touching her, or my son while this fucking gel dried/soaked in.

    BiB is right about the fact that it does work well for some, and not others. There is a lot of people suggesting that moisturiser on top of the gel increases absorption, but I don't recall any studies or evidence to prove it.

    I have an underlying suspicion that the testogel effectiveness is dependent on BF%. Of course, that's just my own theory!

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    Thanks. Good to know. I think my doc will suggest the gel because this is norway. Good to know that some will feel worse on it. Cant in my deepest thoughs understand why though.

    Your levels crashed?...e2 high and total test low or?

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    I was put on it first for my trt treatment and couldn't tell the difference, did nothing for me what so ever and infact was a pain in the arse using it. It was dropped after a few weeks and went on Test E which was fine and made a big difference in my life, then I was put on Nebido and that's when the magic happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Thanks. Good to know. I think my doc will suggest the gel because this is norway. Good to know that some will feel worse on it. Cant in my deepest thoughs understand why though.

    Your levels crashed?...e2 high and total test low or?
    I don't recall the e2 levels. I'll dig them out. Below are the graphs/data. I started gel in January 2016. Look at the February blood test.




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    I should mention that the blood levels on 12th January were my natural levels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    I should mention that the blood levels on 12th January were my natural levels.

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    Not good. And long time before it worked.
    Do u recall the amount gel u were using and the mg/g test/gel ratio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I was out on it first for my trt treatment and couldn't tell the difference, did nothing for me what so ever and infact was a pain in the arse using it. It was dropped after a few weeks and went on Test E which was fine and made a big difference in my life, then I was put on Nebido and that's when the magic happened.
    Mr BB and marcus uses Nebido then.
    But u wont feel it in a couple of months?
    And u cant use a private kickstart cause it would mess up docs controltest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Mr BB and marcus uses Nebido then.
    But u wont feel it in a couple of months?
    And u cant use a private kickstart cause it would mess up docs controltest?
    I have been on Nebiso since march. Since that blood test and I said to my Dr. This isn't working.

    Don't kickstart. Let the Neviso give you true readings. It'll be more beneficial to help you dial it in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    I have been on Nebiso since march. Since that blood test and I said to my Dr. This isn't working.

    Don't kickstart. Let the Neviso give you true readings. It'll be more beneficial to help you dial it in.


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    when did the nebido make u feel alrigth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Mr BB and marcus uses Nebido then.
    But u wont feel it in a couple of months?
    And u cant use a private kickstart cause it would mess up docs controltest?
    Been on nebido around close to 8 yrs . It's without doubt the best therapy by far in my eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Been on nebido around close to 8 yrs . It's without doubt the best therapy by far in my eyes
    How much do u run?
    Listed norwegian prizes were 170 us dollars for 1000 mg:-(

    Or is 250 mg every 60th day enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    when did the nebido make u feel alrigth?
    You'll see from my blood levels it's been a rollercoaster. I've felt "good" since probably November. So maybe 6-7 months of Nebido.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    How much do u run?
    Listed norwegian prizes were 170 us dollars for 1000 mg:-(

    Or is 250 mg every 60th day enough?
    1000mg every 70 days (10 weeks) is the recommended protocol.


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    My levels on gels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    when did the nebido make u feel alrigth?
    With Nebido be sure to get a booster pin at six weeks mark, it will help levels dial in faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    How much do u run?
    Listed norwegian prizes were 170 us dollars for 1000 mg:-(

    Or is 250 mg every 60th day enough?
    I've been on trt for around 12 to13 yrs so it's probably been 10yrs on nebido. I take 1000mg 4ml every 12 week's but have been down to every 11 wks but they changed it due to my t levels. Not cycled for 2.5 yrs
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    With Nebido be sure to get a booster pin at six weeks mark, it will help levels dial in faster.
    750 ng/dl.....isnt that a bit high..prostate, cholestrol, hct and shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I've been on trt for around 12 to13 yrs so it's probably been 10yrs on nebido. I take 1000mg 4ml every 12 week's but have been down to every 11 wks but they changed it due to my t levels. Not cycled for 2.5 yrs
    what have been your levels then last years?...what do they "let u have"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    750 ng/dl.....isnt that a bit high..prostate, cholestrol, hct and shit...
    TU is by far the less harsh on those, and the vets will confirm you this. Gels are the worst because of massive conversion to DHT and E2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    TU is by far the less harsh on those, and the vets will confirm you this. Gels are the worst because of massive conversion to DHT and E2.
    aha...love my hairline...dont like dht conversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    what have been your levels then last years?...what do they "let u have"?
    Depends but I am normally around the 700-800 mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    How much do u run?
    Listed norwegian prizes were 170 us dollars for 1000 mg:-(

    Or is 250 mg every 60th day enough?
    Sounds about right, I pay 100€ for each nebido at pharmacy. Not subsidised by local NHS

    I thought you lived in a rich country, had a expensive house and a good business?!?!?

    The last few days you are overly concerned about my budget... cant you afford 100€ every 10-12 weeks? Things must be going bad for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Sounds about right, I pay 100€ for each nebido at pharmacy. Not subsidised by local NHS

    I thought you lived in a rich country, had a expensive house and a good business?!?!?

    The last few days you are overly concerned about my budget... cant you afford 100€ every 10-12 weeks? Things must be going bad for you
    rich country, yes. expensive house yes. good business yes

    But im too is looking into pharma HGH u know:-) Cant let u get a free card on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    rich country, yes. expensive house yes. good business yes

    But im too is looking into pharma HGH u know:-) Cant let u get a free card on me.
    F U rich bastard

    Well, money isnt everything, too cold and dark for me anyways.

    Just think, I live where you wait all year to come in vacations hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    How much do u run?
    Listed norwegian prizes were 170 us dollars for 1000 mg:-(

    Or is 250 mg every 60th day enough?
    1000mg every 70 days (10 weeks) is the recommended protocol.


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    Cypros, Grand Canaria.....

    If u live in Cypros, give me a hint. Maybe we can train and i can teach u how to do Castle HIT.
    I always thougth u lived at the other side, more spain/portugal...mallorca even..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Cypros, Grand Canaria.....

    If u live in Cypros, give me a hint. Maybe we can train and i can teach u how to do Castle HIT.
    I always thougth u lived at the other side, more spain/portugal...mallorca even..
    I'll pass on the Castle HIT lol

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    Testogel gives 50g test ed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Sounds about right, I pay 100€ for each nebido at pharmacy. Not subsidised by local NHS
    I pay £8.20 as mine is subsidised by NHS!



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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    I pay £8.20 as mine is subsidised by NHS!
    They give BC pills for free, but a guy has zero % help on testosterone .

    All my taxes go to pay bankers I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post

    They give BC pills for free, but a guy has zero % help on testosterone .

    All my taxes go to pay bankers I guess.
    Same here, but nebido costs 159 euros. However regional sanitary system can override national and some offer it free if charge. Not mine since it's bankrupt lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    I pay £8.20 as mine is subsidised by NHS!



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    You're being ripped off. Mine is free. Of course I have to get the nurse to inject it, I'd rather pay the £8.20 to do it myself. Although I'm a little bit in love with one of the 2 nurses I normally see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You're being ripped off. Mine is free. Of course I have to get the nurse to inject it, I'd rather pay the £8.20 to do it myself. Although I'm a little bit in love with one of the 2 nurses I normally see.
    You only get free prescriptions if you have an NHS exemption card?

    Unless your medication is going to your doctors surgery directly... they might catch up with you one day. Be careful there!


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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    You only get free prescriptions if you have an NHS exemption card?

    Unless your medication is going to your doctors surgery directly... they might catch up with you one day. Be careful there!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    They can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man!
    My Mrs just got slapped with a small bill of ~£50 for some unpaid prescriptions.

    Hate to see you get whacked with years of Nebido charges!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    So im doing my research infront of my first trt-appointment wednesday

    A friend of mine at the gym in his 50s is given testogel which gives him a stabil 650.

    At the gelinfo i read that u are supposed to put on 5 g ed and 5 g contains 50 g testosteron.

    Isnt this much for trt?
    The following is from a clinical dermal absorption study of Test. "The variation observed may be largely attributed to human variability in dermal absorption and the skin source. For the most lipophilic compound, testosterone , skin thickness proved to be a critical variable." The amount of fat under the skin has a direct affect on the amount of Test absorbed through the skin. It sounds like the doc's take a shot gun approach. Put a lot of cream on the skin and see how much is absorbed. Track the absorption and then adjust the dosage. I like injections for TRT because it's more exact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    rich country, yes. expensive house yes. good business yes

    But im too is looking into pharma HGH u know:-) Cant let u get a free card on me.

    you want 100% hgh you'll have to pay for it its not cheap, if you know where to look for ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post

    you want 100% hgh you'll have to pay for it its not cheap, if you know where to look for ?
    Seriously i think i stil drop it. My trt, cycling with mk677 and maybe ipam will be enough.

    Next year 2018 im gonna realize at lot of money. Until then mr bb kan keep his little advantage. Wont help him lol

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    Just wondering what type of ester nebido is attached to, to dose 1000mg every 70 days?

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