HCG not effective

**Lifted1** · 03-19-2017, 08:13 AM

With a prescription you can fill it at any U.S. compounding Pharm that makes hcg for about $75/11,000 iu. If you google hcg compounding pharmacy, the first populated pharmacy is great.

I've been using pharm hcg since I started trt and I still noticed my balls are slightly smaller than they were pre trt. Imo it's a small price to pay vs all the benifits of a compete trt protocol.

Will

**mazguy** · 04-12-2017, 08:58 AM

My doctor wrote a script and it was denied by Anthem BC, as they requested more specific reasons. He tried everything--hypogonadism, low libido, testicular atrophy and a few others. Any suggestions for better reasons?
I go on Medicare next month and maybe they will be more lenient?
thanks

**Donzi4me** · 04-12-2017, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by mazguy

My doctor wrote a script and it was denied by Anthem BC, as they requested more specific reasons. He tried everything--hypogonadism, low libido, testicular atrophy and a few others. Any suggestions for better reasons?
I go on Medicare next month and maybe they will be more lenient?
thanks

I just pay cash and forget about dealing with the insurance company. However my insurance will reimburse me when I turn the receipt in online.

I just received 3 of the 4000IU HCG with mixing water from my compounding pharmacy in Florida. I'm using 1000IU per week. $25 per vial and it's from a USA pharmacy and legit. With the $15 shipping, I got a 3 month supply for $90.

As with any prescription, prices are all over the board. You must use the GoodRx app for any script you are getting. Otherwise you are overpaying. Every time I order my Test in a 10 ml bottle, the price they have on it is DOUBLE what the coupon from GoodRX gets it down to. I pay cash and turn it in for reimbursement.

**Quester** · 04-12-2017, 06:25 PM

What's GOODRX?

**Donzi4me** · 04-12-2017, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Quester

What's GOODRX?

Google is your friend......

GoodRx is an app for your phone for finding the cheapest price for prescriptions near you. Don't buy your meds without checking them first. You will be amazed how every pharmacy has different pricing on all the meds. Then just use the discount coupon from the GoodRx app...

Most people don't pay attention to the price since insurance picks it up.... But if you are paying cash, the savings are HUGE....

Example: Anastrozole, 30 tabs of 1mg... Walmart $61... CVS $28... Sams club $4.... near my location

**Quester** · 04-13-2017, 09:41 AM

Google is cool. My friends and acquaintances are better.
I'll definitely use this App and pass it on to friends and acquaintances.
Thanks for the info

**mazguy** · 05-03-2017, 05:16 PM

Good news for senior citizens. I just started on Medicare and after checking different drug plans to see which would cover testosterone and HCG I opted for AARP United Healthcare drug plan at $86 a month. Through that program I scored 10,000iu of HCG for $63. Yee haw!

**kelkel** · 05-03-2017, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by mazguy

My doctor wrote a script and it was denied by Anthem BC, as they requested more specific reasons. He tried everything--hypogonadism, low libido, testicular atrophy and a few others. Any suggestions for better reasons?
I go on Medicare next month and maybe they will be more lenient?
thanks

Damn that's ridiculous. Especially since it's printed directly on many HCG package inserts that it's for Hypogonadic Hypogonadism.....

**mazguy** · 05-04-2017, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Damn that's ridiculous. Especially since it's printed directly on many HCG package inserts that it's for Hypogonadic Hypogonadism.....

Agreed and finally Anthem approved after four months but then navigating through Express Scripts which handed it over to their specialty pharmacy Acreedo they delayed it for a few more weeks of nonsense until my original insurance expired because as of 5/1 I went on Medicare.
Since I did not see much result from 250iu eod I'm switching to 250iu every day to see what happens. Any downside to such a high dosage?

**kelkel** · 05-04-2017, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by mazguy

Agreed and finally Anthem approved after four months but then navigating through Express Scripts which handed it over to their specialty pharmacy Acreedo they delayed it for a few more weeks of nonsense until my original insurance expired because as of 5/1 I went on Medicare.
Since I did not see much result from 250iu eod I'm switching to 250iu every day to see what happens. Any downside to such a high dosage?

Understand Express-Scripts very well. When it comes to seeing results you very well may not. It's not like testosterone , etc. Some will feel a difference and some will not. I did not but regardless I know it's helping and the right thing to do. I started at 250iu's M-W-F. A few years ago I dropped it to twice per week which is just fine. I do not think you need that much and run the risk of exacerbating E2 levels.

I do know several guys, quite knowledgeable and well known that do low dose daily administration of HCG . Dosing at 100 iu's daily. If you were looking to change I'd go that route and see if that helps you.

**TRA** · 05-04-2017, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

I dont understand US health service.

If I have a script I go a pharmacy, if they dont have it in stock they order supplier, and it will be there in few hours or next day. Pregnyl 5000ui costs less than 5€, with NHS co-pay script its about half.

As far as I know its like this across all europe.

It's easy to understand healthcare in the US - show me the money. That simple. And that frustrating.

**Obs** · 05-04-2017, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

It's easy to understand healthcare in the US - show me the money. That simple. And that frustrating.

Fact. I got to watch my girlfriend suffer through a procedure just yesterday because she couldn't afford the anesthesia route. She has three more coming up, all very painful.

**Couchlock** · 05-04-2017, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Fact. I got to watch my girlfriend suffer through a procedure just yesterday because she couldn't afford the anesthesia route. She has three more coming up, all very painful.

That's fucked obs,I hope she does well.

Is it dental procedures?

**Obs** · 05-04-2017, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

That's fucked obs,I hope she does well.

Is it dental procedures?

Yes, feel like shit that I couldnt put more toward it.

**Sicko** · 05-04-2017, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Yes, feel like shit that I couldnt put more toward it.

That sucks...Maybe for the next one go to your local head shop (where they sell bongs and such.) you can pick up fairly cheap some "whippits" basically they are NOS charges used in chefs kitchens. Does the same as the Nitrous Oxide they give you at the Dentist...not quite as good as the medical grade but will do the trick.
Not sure how your dentist would feel about your girl sucking down whippits in the operating room but worst case scenario y'all have some fun after.

**Obs** · 05-05-2017, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Sicko

That sucks...Maybe for the next one go to your local head shop (where they sell bongs and such.) you can pick up fairly cheap some "whippits" basically they are NOS charges used in chefs kitchens. Does the same as the Nitrous Oxide they give you at the Dentist...not quite as good as the medical grade but will do the trick.
Not sure how your dentist would feel about your girl sucking down whippits in the operating room but worst case scenario y'all have some fun after.

That would probably get us kicked out but if I could, I would.

**Sh0tsf1red** · 05-05-2017, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

Brother, imo have aca, but they selectively pay for certain thing they feel "necessary".

Test was not one, they wanted $157 at one pharmacy for a bottle of cyp200.

Found it for $80 and an independent.

If my insurance coveted it it would be free or DAMN close to free

I pay $2 per 10ml cyp 200

**Couchlock** · 05-06-2017, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sh0tsf1red

I pay $2 per 10ml cyp 200

I liked my pharmacom 250 better than Watson 200 (I dosed both at around 275 mg 2x weekly)

**Grappler13** · 05-07-2017, 07:41 PM

I had to run 500iu eod for about 6 weeks to get my balls back and hanging. My original prescription was for 250iu 2x week and that didn't keep them from shrinking and getting high and tight. Crappy feeling. Now things are much better.

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**Grappler13** · 05-07-2017, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by mazguy

I cannot find HCG in So Cal except through a Walgreens specialty pharmacy and they want $400 for 5,000 unless covered by insurance---UCLA was $3,000! 5,000iu was not even available.
Any suggestions?
Also, what should a doctor list for medical reasons for prescribing HCG? My doctor will write a script for my insurance but apparently there is no reason to prescribe it for males. Or at least one acceptable for Anthem Blue Cross.

Type "compounding pharmacy hcg" into the google. The first pharmacy will be a mail order one that you can send your script to. It's about $40 for 5000ius and $75 for 11,000ius. Don't be a slave to your insurance.

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**Couchlock** · 05-08-2017, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Grappler13

Type "compounding pharmacy hcg " into the google. The first pharmacy will be a mail order one that you can send your script to. It's about $40 for 5000ius and $75 for 11,000ius. Don't be a slave to your insurance.

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Also any good source should have pharma grade organon or the like

**kelkel** · 05-08-2017, 09:01 AM

If you have a script send it to Defy Medical. 5k IU's about $40. Not sure if they'll work with you if that's the only item you want but it's worth a "shot."

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**Obs** · 05-08-2017, 09:04 AM

Lol hell with the script. Its $35 -20% discount from my supplier and orals and hcg always come quick. The oils are screwing us all though lately.
God bless them I hope they get it together.
I did the math of above equation... thats $28 per vial. Hot damn, I am just so damn smart. Take notes people.