HCG prescription for TRT

[SKYtx]

Spoke with doc about a low T count
And he is prescribing HCG
Is that a common way to go?

[eslim]

For some doctors, yes. Just like anything else you should shop around.

[kelkel]

Very few doctors prescribe HCG Mono-Therapy imho. Do you happen to have a copy of your blood work you can post for us to evaluate? Most docs unfortunately do not really understand hormones as they're not trained in them in med school, so it's always possible that there's something suppressing your endogenous T production that's fixable.

And welcome to the forum!

[Sh0tsf1red]

I've heard some doctors adding it and some don't

My dr didn't add it for me

[kelkel]

I've heard some doctors adding it and some don't

My dr didn't add it for me

He probably thinks it's not an appropriate use for it. Which means he's never read even a package insert for HCG which directly states for "Hypogonadic Hypogonadism."

[SKYtx]

Kelkel so your saying it should be used more often then it is?

[kelkel]

Absolutely. Anyone on TRT using a form of testosterone should be on it. It helps to maintain testicular function. There's no reason to not use it. Take a minute and read the sticky thread at the top of this forum. All of the top docs in the TRT field, bar none, recommend it as part of a complete protocol.

[mazguy]

Good news for senior citizens. I just started on Medicare and after checking different drug plans to see which would cover testosterone and HCG I opted for AARP United Healthcare drug plan at $86 a month. Through that program I scored 10,000iu of HCG for $63. Yee haw!

[kelkel]

Nice Mazguy!

[SKYtx]

Absolutely. Anyone on TRT using a form of testosterone should be on it. It helps to maintain testicular function. There's no reason to not use it. Take a minute and read the sticky thread at the top of this forum. All of the top docs in the TRT field, bar none, recommend it as part of a complete protocol.

Kelkel after reading the sticky
Is it common to just use HCG for treatment without using any testosterone at all?

[kelkel]

Kelkel after reading the sticky
Is it common to just use HCG for treatment without using any testosterone at all?

Common, not really. Is it still done, yes. Understand a couple things. HCG Monotherapy is suppressive to your HPTA function over time. Not as quick as T therapy but it will still suppress you. HCG mimics LH function and by doing so your pituitary senses is does not need to produce it any further, thus it suppresses production.

If you happen to be primary hypogonadal (testicular failure) then it will not work. It will only work with secondary hypogonadism (pituitary related.) All that said, I would not be a fan of this whatsoever. It would probably be my last choice. I would easily choose Clomid therapy above it. Anecdotally the subjective benefits of the above two forms of TRT do not equal testosterone therapy .

[SKYtx]

Common, not really. Is it still done, yes. Understand a couple things. HCG Monotherapy is suppressive to your HPTA function over time. Not as quick as T therapy but it will still suppress you. HCG mimics LH function and by doing so your pituitary senses is does not need to produce it any further, thus it suppresses production.

If you happen to be primary hypogonadal (testicular failure) then it will not work. It will only work with secondary hypogonadism (pituitary related.) All that said, I would not be a fan of this whatsoever. It would probably be my last choice. I would easily choose Clomid therapy above it. Anecdotally the subjective benefits of the above two forms of TRT do not equal testosterone therapy.

Kelkel I appreciate you continued input.
Traditional trt was avoided to avoid fertility issues.
For lack of a better word, would "cycling" HCG be an option to get some benefits increased test production , while avoiding desensitizing?

[kelkel]

Kelkel I appreciate you continued input.
Traditional trt was avoided to avoid fertility issues.
For lack of a better word, would "cycling" HCG be an option to get some benefits increased test production , while avoiding desensitizing?

I would not do that ever. Cycling it in that fashion can boost T levels but at the same time put your Pituitary function (LH-FSH) on a roller coaster ride which is the last thing you want. Remember your pituitary is what needs to function for you to endogenously produce testosterone and spermatogenesis.

If you are concerned about fertility then your doctor should have prescribed you clomid, which will hyperstimulate your pituitary function (not shut it down) increasing both LH and FSH subsequently increasing T production downstream. It's a viable form of TRT many use when fertility is an issue. Clomid makes the hypothalamus think estrogen is low so it ramps up signalling to the pituitary to increase production.

What type of doctor do you see?

[SKYtx]

Kelkel would it be okay to dm you?

[kelkel]

PM, sure.

[SKYtx]

Any additional thoughts out there on people taking hcg ? As a form of treatment?

[AR's King Silabolin]

Spoke with doc about a low T count
And he is prescribing HCG
Is that a common way to go?

Vets here suggest Nebido. I am in my 11. th week now and im very happy with it sofar.
I think its better than weekly shots.

[SKYtx]

Vets here suggest Nebido. I am in my 11. th week now and im very happy with it sofar.
I think its better than weekly shots.

That's effectively traditionally trt using test right?
Thataffects fertility long term?

[kelkel]

That's effectively traditionally trt using test right?
Thataffects fertility long term?

Yes, it's the longest estered testosterone so minimal injections needed. Normally after the initial shot there's a booster around week 6 then approximately every 10 weeks thereafter based on BW, which means it could be a little sooner or later. Any testosterone can effect fertility, which is one of the reasons HCG is used.