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    Everyday Dosing

    I'm looking to try everyday dosing. I want to lower my HCT to minimize breathing issues.

    I did everyday dosing a couple years ago for aprox. 6 weeks, it lowered my HCT by 7 points, but the dosing made me feel very weak for some reason so I stopped.

    At that time I was injecting 120mg of Test Cyp. I'm currently injecting 105mg split into 3 doses.

    I'm thinking of increasing my Test to 140mg/7 days. To see if I can get my HCT down and not feel weak at the same time.

    I currently inject 900 iu's of HCG weekly divided into 3 doses.

    What would be the best way to divide up the 900 iu's if I'm injecting Test everyday?

    I also use an AI (Arimidex ). My E2 runs high very easily even on 105mg of Test a week.

    What is the best way to dose the Arimidex if I'm doing daily Test injections?

    It's been awhile since I did daily dosing, I can't remember if E2 runs lower with daily injections.

    Should I hold off on using an AI at all, to see if my E2 runs lower?

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    Everyday pinning test cyp/e isn't worth it
    Test prop would work better for that if that's what you're seeking

    You're saying your hemoglobin/hematrocrit is high on current dosage and you want to increase frequency of your pinning schedule, out of curiosity do you have blood work? How high does your red bloods run? Mine get thick after some time so i donate often

    Do you know where your previous e2 levels sat around or this is by feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwh7699 View Post
    I'm looking to try everyday dosing. I want to lower my HCT to minimize breathing issues.

    I did everyday dosing a couple years ago for aprox. 6 weeks, it lowered my HCT by 7 points, but the dosing made me feel very weak for some reason so I stopped.

    At that time I was injecting 120mg of Test Cyp. I'm currently injecting 105mg split into 3 doses.

    I'm thinking of increasing my Test to 140mg/7 days. To see if I can get my HCT down and not feel weak at the same time.

    I currently inject 900 iu's of HCG weekly divided into 3 doses.

    What would be the best way to divide up the 900 iu's if I'm injecting Test everyday?

    I also use an AI (Arimidex ). My E2 runs high very easily even on 105mg of Test a week.

    What is the best way to dose the Arimidex if I'm doing daily Test injections?

    It's been awhile since I did daily dosing, I can't remember if E2 runs lower with daily injections.

    Should I hold off on using an AI at all, to see if my E2 runs lower?
    The HCG and Test injections are mutually exclusive. You can do any schedule that is convienent. Most people inject on the same day simply because it's less time consuming and less likely to forget.

    Maintain stable blood levels (ie daily injections) will have a positive output on your E2 levels. I am surprised you would need an AI at 105mg of Test per week. Is this your doctor telling you or have you been able to see the bloodwork for yourself?

    If you want to eliminate an AI (which I would recommend), then you could try EOD injections and drop the AI. Pull bloodwork somewhere around 8 weeks later and see how the E2 looks. (Don't forget to track how you actually feel, as that is ultimately more important than a number)

    Your feeling of being weak could be attributed to crashing your estrogen levels from using an AI with little Test, especially given Arimidexnis quite potent.
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    I'm curious to know what breathing problems could be caused by your blood having an increased capacity to carry oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    I'm curious to know what breathing problems could be caused by your blood having an increased capacity to carry oxygen.
    blood pressure? thicker blood which in some cases people say causes heart issues
    blood pressure issues will have your kidneys slowly die until you need a replacement

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    your running 120mg of test per week . and thats giving you high Hematocrit and "breathing issues" . this does not sound right at all.

    IF your really having concerning breathing issues you may want to go get that checked out , its likely not your TRT causing it. and I highly doubt your HCT is at 60 or so and causing issues either at that low of a dose.

    I find it interesting, when guys get on a cycle of AAS or even on TRT , the minute they have any health issues or concerns what so ever its automatically assumed thats it from the Steroids their taking.
    eg..
    you get a cold , thats automatically assumed to be "test flu" , AAS is the cause
    you get heart burn, thats from the toxicity of the steroids, AAS is the cause
    you get a head ache, thats from an increase of all the gear binding to androgen receptors in your brain lol, AAS is the cause

    heck, I even seen a thread started where I guy had a hemorrhoid flare up and asked if he should lower his dosage of test. like test was causing that issue too . come on man !

    then there is the classic "I've got no libido.. this cycle is messing me up" when the truth be told you haven't had a libido in 5 years cause your wifes an ugly dog , just cause you get on gear isn't going to change that.

    my point is that not every little health issue you ever have is going to be because of your use of gear.. most people don't take gear and they have all the same or even more health issues then you.

    sorry just a bit of a rant here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    I'm curious to know what breathing problems could be caused by your blood having an increased capacity to carry oxygen.
    good question..
    its actually breathing issues themselves that often times increase RBC , not the other way around . its not RBC causing your breathing issues, its your breathing issues causing your body to have to increase RBC.
    Example - Sleep Apnea will cause an increase in hematocrit. its your bodies way of making up for the lack of oxygen your getting while trying to sleep


    So , OP - go get your breathing issues checked out. its likely that causing your high hematocrit (though you never did say it was high) and not the high hematocrit causing the breathing issues (unless you HCT was off the charts high)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    your running 120mg of test per week . and thats giving you high Hematocrit and "breathing issues" . this does not sound right at all.

    IF your really having concerning breathing issues you may want to go get that checked out , its likely not your TRT causing it. and I highly doubt your HCT is at 60 or so and causing issues either at that low of a dose.

    I find it interesting, when guys get on a cycle of AAS or even on TRT , the minute they have any health issues or concerns what so ever its automatically assumed thats it from the Steroids their taking.
    eg..
    you get a cold , thats automatically assumed to be "test flu" , AAS is the cause
    you get heart burn, thats from the toxicity of the steroids, AAS is the cause
    you get a head ache, thats from an increase of all the gear binding to androgen receptors in your brain lol, AAS is the cause

    heck, I even seen a thread started where I guy had a hemorrhoid flare up and asked if he should lower his dosage of test. like test was causing that issue too . come on man !

    then there is the classic "I've got no libido.. this cycle is messing me up" when the truth be told you haven't had a libido in 5 years cause your wifes an ugly dog , just cause you get on gear isn't going to change that.

    my point is that not every little health issue you ever have is going to be because of your use of gear.. most people don't take gear and they have all the same or even more health issues then you.

    sorry just a bit of a rant here
    I think that’s largely due to the scare tactics and fear mongering that’s been dumped into our culture about AAS. It’s no different than how weed was demonized incorrectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Everyday pinning test cyp/e isn't worth it
    Test prop would work better for that if that's what you're seeking

    You're saying your hemoglobin/hematrocrit is high on current dosage and you want to increase frequency of your pinning schedule, out of curiosity do you have blood work? How high does your red bloods run? Mine get thick after some time so i donate often

    Do you know where your previous e2 levels sat around or this is by feel?
    What about a higher dosed prop/cyp combo?
    Im looken to do e eryday with this and see how it goes

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    Why?
    Who pins cyp or eth every day?
    Just run prop

    You have blood work and details on what you're trying to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Why?
    Who pins cyp or eth every day?
    Just run prop

    You have blood work and details on what you're trying to do?
    I want to use the prop for the quickness of it and as it fades have the cyp carry me over, if im sayin of thinken this out correctly?

    Been off trt for about 1 yr, so wanted to try this as a jump start

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2048b View Post
    I want to use the prop for the quickness of it and as it fades have the cyp carry me over, if im sayin of thinken this out correctly?

    Been off trt for about 1 yr, so wanted to try this as a jump start

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    i wouldn't know, maybe the other guys can help out figure out why running cyp/prop daily would be beneficial
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    I've heard of guys running 10mg day subQ with success. Most claim no AI or SERM is needed and RBC levels are improved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I've heard of guys running 10mg day subQ with success. Most claim no AI or SERM is needed and RBC levels are improved.
    Yes sir, i will be running a low dose prop/cyp mix daily to see how the combo effects me and my blood levels....

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    Cardiovascular Questions

    In 2015, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration recommended label changes to testosterone products to indicate potential cardiovascular risks, based, in part, on two analyses that found an increased risk of cardiovascular events associated with TRT. The study findings prompted some physicians to stop testosterone replacement therapy, even among some men who were successfully treated with testosterone. However, some experts cited limitations and flaws in those studies, while also pointing to evidence that testosterone replacement therapy might have a positive effect on cardiovascular health.

    In the TTrials, among 138 men, use of supplemental testosterone was associated with an increase in the volume of noncalcified plaque in the coronary arteries (an early indicator of increased cardiovascular risk), but no major cardiovascular events occurred in either the treatment or placebo groups, the study found.

    And, in a separate study published concurrently with the TTrials in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers compared the cardiovascular effects of testosterone among 8,808 men who had ever received testosterone replacement therapy and 35,527 men never treated with it. They found that use of the therapy, vs. non-use, was associated with a lower risk of adverse cardiovascular outcomes over an average follow-up period of nearly 3˝ years.


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    jw,
    -I'm not sure I understand the reasoning for using two esters nor every day dosing.
    -Why would a dosing schedule of e3d will increase Hct versus one of everyday?
    -***e3d is the recommended schedule because the trough and peak are tight enough that one doesn't experience negative sides of having to high a dose nor the low-T effects of a plateau, this is the only reason for a tighter range.*** A tighter dosing schedule might reduce the range but it is already small enough (for most people).
    -Prop delivers more test than cypionate . But the TRT protocal is for Cyp. Why throw in a variable for basically no measurable benefit?
    -Why worry about a everyday dosing to decrease the therapeutic range while considering raising the dose anyway? As stated in ***, this is a contradiction.
    -Hopefully you'll share the bloodwork with the forum so we can learn from your experience.
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    I would recommend sub-cutaneous injection of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    I would recommend sub-cutaneous injection of test.
    Love your avatar Quester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I think that’s largely due to the scare tactics and fear mongering that’s been dumped into our culture about AAS. It’s no different than how weed was demonized incorrectly.
    This is hilariously the same.
    My gf entire family smoke and knows I use steroids .
    I have no issue with thei grass but dont use it.
    They will all be passing a joint and ask me if I want some.

    I decline and ask them if they want a shot of test or insulin .

    They always have that look of disdain and they "worry about me"

    I havesort of explained that they have been indoctrinated by media much the way the "reefer madness" campaigns convinced baby boomer weed would turn you into a homicidal maniac.

    I cant get through.
    I tried on facebook a long time ago but you just cant enligten dumbasses. I quickly gave up that pursuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    This is hilariously the same.
    My gf entire family smoke and knows I use steroids .
    I have no issue with thei grass but dont use it.
    They will all be passing a joint and ask me if I want some.

    I decline and ask them if they want a shot of test or insulin .

    They always have that look of disdain and they "worry about me"

    I havesort of explained that they have been indoctrinated by media much the way the "reefer madness" campaigns convinced baby boomer weed would turn you into a homicidal maniac.

    I cant get through.
    I tried on facebook a long time ago but you just cant enligten dumbasses. I quickly gave up that pursuit.
    There is no point in trying to change a mind that’s already set before they even hear the evidence.
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