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    3 days in. I read that levels from a dose peak 2-3 days after injecting? Haven’t noticed any effects other than my hair being pretty oily this morning.

    With that said, I feel a lot better, but I think that is due to cardio every morning. Who knows.

    But I don’t feel like I did when I was 18. Hopefully I get there sometime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    3 days in. I read that levels from a dose peak 2-3 days after injecting? Haven’t noticed any effects other than my hair being pretty oily this morning.

    With that said, I feel a lot better, but I think that is due to cardio every morning. Who knows.

    But I don’t feel like I did when I was 18. Hopefully I get there sometime soon.
    You may notice an initial little improvement in your perception of how you feel, but it will take some time to see/feel the real improvement.

    Remember, getting dialed in on an optimized dose is a multi-step process that can easily take 6 months or more.

    Hang in there, the small incremental improvements will keep adding up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    You may notice an initial little improvement in your perception of how you feel, but it will take some time to see/feel the real improvement.

    Remember, getting dialed in on an optimized dose is a multi-step process that can easily take 6 months or more.

    Hang in there, the small incremental improvements will keep adding up.



    Cool. So when should I pull follow-up labs?

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    When does your Dr. have you scheduled for additional labs?

    If they are pulling decent panels, I wouldn't do any self ordered labs for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    When does your Dr. have you scheduled for additional labs?

    If they are pulling decent panels, I wouldn't do any self ordered labs for a while.


    I have an appt 10/23. I haven’t seen the panel he pulled. Waiting on my own, will show it to him and see what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    I have an appt 10/23. I haven’t seen the panel he pulled. Waiting on my own, will show it to him and see what he says.
    Get a copy of his results, they're yours and youu can see what all the Dr. is checking. Also, it may be that if you require a dosage adjustment, that the Dr. may dig a little deeper with the labwork. No use paying for labs that your insurance would pay towards

    I'd wait until you get the first results from his follow-up labs and see if there will need to be any dosage adjustments. If there are any dosage adjustments, maybe pull a self ordered panel no sooner than 3 months after the dosage change, dependent on what panels your Dr. pulls.

    Now, later on after you get dialed in, if you decide that you want to supplement your TRT, I would pull labs 1 month prior to your Dr. appointment in case you need to address any issues .

    First though, make sure you get on a decent dosage that puts your free T towards the upper third of the range with little to no a.i. if at all possible.

    Remember, it takes some time for your hormone levels to stabilize. It's not something that you can check one month after starting therapy and expect to be zeroed in.
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    Did my first in-home injection just now.

    Realized the pharmacy gave me 3ml syringes... so it made it difficult to measure .25ml....

    Also, it seems like maybe .025-.05ml was left in the syringe because of the reservoir between the syringe and the pin.

    Doesn't seem like much, but it is between 10 and 20% of my dose....

    Any thoughts on that? I plan to get some smaller syringes, but will that help with waste?

    Also, is it kosher to ask for a legit syringe source here? I am gonna call the pharmacy to see if they got me a 10ml vial, but I don't want to screw with them too much. The pharmacist rolled her eyes at me when I had her give me 1.5in pins as opposed to the 1inchers she initially gave me....because I assume she thought I knew too much about all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    Did my first in-home injection just now.

    Realized the pharmacy gave me 3ml syringes... so it made it difficult to measure .25ml....

    Also, it seems like maybe .025-.05ml was left in the syringe because of the reservoir between the syringe and the pin.

    Doesn't seem like much, but it is between 10 and 20% of my dose....

    Any thoughts on that? I plan to get some smaller syringes, but will that help with waste?

    Also, is it kosher to ask for a legit syringe source here? I am gonna call the pharmacy to see if they got me a 10ml vial, but I don't want to screw with them too much. The pharmacist rolled her eyes at me when I had her give me 1.5in pins as opposed to the 1inchers she initially gave me....because I assume she thought I knew too much about all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    Did my first in-home injection just now.

    Realized the pharmacy gave me 3ml syringes... so it made it difficult to measure .25ml....

    Also, it seems like maybe .025-.05ml was left in the syringe because of the reservoir between the syringe and the pin.

    Doesn't seem like much, but it is between 10 and 20% of my dose....

    Any thoughts on that? I plan to get some smaller syringes, but will that help with waste?

    Also, is it kosher to ask for a legit syringe source here? I am gonna call the pharmacy to see if they got me a 10ml vial, but I don't want to screw with them too much. The pharmacist rolled her eyes at me when I had her give me 1.5in pins as opposed to the 1inchers she initially gave me....because I assume she thought I knew too much about all this.
    Draw a small bubble of air to go in behind the oil and clear it out the syringe. I use 3ml syringes all of the time to draw my dose. For me, it is easier to see where the rear of the plunger lines up with an increment/ line and then pull the necessary distance to get your volume, then I withdraw and pull a small amount of air.

    Some guys like Y55G prefer to shoot sub-q and use insulin syringes, however for now, I would stick with IM. You can change over to sub-q later if you wish. No use introducing more variables yet, no matter how inconsequential they may be.

    1" needles should be fine, I prefer them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Draw a small bubble of air to go in behind the oil and clear it out the syringe. I use 3ml syringes all of the time to draw my dose. For me, it is easier to see where the rear of the plunger lines up with an increment/ line and then pull the necessary distance to get your volume, then I withdraw and pull a small amount of air.

    Some guys like Y55G prefer to shoot sub-q and use insulin syringes, however for now, I would stick with IM. You can change over to sub-q later if you wish. No use introducing more variables yet, no matter how inconsequential they may be.

    1" needles should be fine, I prefer them.


    So by injecting a small amount of air, you’re able to get more of the oil out of the syringe?

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    Yes. Experiment with a used syringe and needle and use water to simulate. It only takes a tiny amount of air.
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    Here are my labs:
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    Nothing seems too out of whack.

    DHEA-S looks pretty high, but I saw on another site that 510 was the upper normal range for a guy my age... so I guess maybe I don’t have adrenal cancer? Yikes

    I read that low T and high DHEA-S can happen when you have a fatty liver. Which could make sense considering my diet and alcohol consumption. Bilirubin is also high end of normal with high A/G ratio. I know a chick from high school who is a health nut and all into liver health. Maybe I should talk to her....

    I also read that bilirubin can be high after strenuous exercise which I had been doing for 4 days prior to pulling these labs, which I hadn’t done for a long time.

    On that note, my natty test jumped 60 points from when my doc pulled it! Good thing I hadn’t been working out prior to him pulling blood and had gone on a bender the night before at commencement of my golf league.


    Any thoughts on these labs would be greatly appreciated.
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    I would consider taking supplemental Vit. D. I usually buy the cheap CVS brand. Take it with a meal containing fats, preferably good fats.

    LDL will probably improve with diet and exercise. Possibly same for total cholesterol.

    Maybe pull an IGF-1 panel when you pull more labs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    I would consider taking supplemental Vit. D. I usually buy the cheap CVS brand. Take it with a meal containing fats, preferably good fats.

    LDL will probably improve with diet and exercise. Possibly same for total cholesterol.

    Maybe pull an IGF-1 panel when you pull more labs.

    Will do, thanks. So, with regard to IGF-1, is there something in my labs that causes you to suspect something? Or is just that it’s valuable info my current labs didn’t cover?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    Will do, thanks. So, with regard to IGF-1, is there something in my labs that causes you to suspect something? Or is just that it’s valuable info my current labs didn’t cover?
    It's just another panel to have a good baseline for.
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    Great. Thanks for all your guidance, almostgone. Much appreciated.

    Just talked to the pharmacy and a 10ml vial is waiting on me there.
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    Definitely feeling the effects.

    All good except pretty damn hungry, so I have put some water weight on with diet mistakes the past couple days. Gonna try to keep water intake up, sodium and simple carbs down.

    Running 1-2.5 miles every day, with push-ups, burpees and lunges EOD. Will move on to weights as this doesn’t make me sore anymore and the weather gets worse.

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    Last night I still had a bit of oil in the syringe after injecting.

    Admittedly, I did not read the link or practice before, I just drew in a bit of air. After I read the link and it says .1-.3 ml of air? I guess that is the reading you have on the syringe and the chamber is extra air in addition to that? I think I had way less either way.

    I am injecting in my glute, so I think I will lie down and have my wife push the plunger next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    Last night I still had a bit of oil in the syringe after injecting.

    Admittedly, I did not read the link or practice before, I just drew in a bit of air. After I read the link and it says .1-.3 ml of air? I guess that is the reading you have on the syringe and the chamber is extra air in addition to that? I think I had way less either way.

    I am injecting in my glute, so I think I will lie down and have my wife push the plunger next time.


    Yes sir, draw you dose, tip up the syringe and draw in the extra air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Yes sir, draw you dose, tip up the syringe and draw in the extra air.

    Yup. Worked like a charm this time. Got the whole dose. Thanks!

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    Another note: I have put on 8lbs since starting. I did eat like shit last night, family celebration. But my waist is definitely not getting bigger. Still intermittently fasting. 2pm-8pm window except for last night. Running 2.5 miles every morning, pushups and lunges 4x/wk. Muscles definitely appear fuller. Muscle memory, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
    Another note: I have put on 8lbs since starting. I did eat like shit last night, family celebration. But my waist is definitely not getting bigger. Still intermittently fasting. 2pm-8pm window except for last night. Running 2.5 miles every morning, pushups and lunges 4x/wk. Muscles definitely appear fuller. Muscle memory, maybe?
    Just be careful of the cardio that it doesn’t slow leg growth. I used to do a lot of cardio and it did affect me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Just be careful of the cardio that it doesn’t slow leg growth. I used to do a lot of cardio and it did affect me.


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    Just be careful of the cardio that it doesn’t slow leg growth. I used to do a lot of cardio and it did affect me.


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