Igf Question For Those That Have Experience

**DEVLDOG** · 10-11-2004, 07:25 AM

just a couple of thoughts before i add my igf to my cycle .this will be my first go around with it.i will be running slin also.i have a good amount of user experience with slin.i may add that im into my 4th week of
dbol 50mg/ed
sust 250mg eod
deca 200mg eod
i wanted to wait til week 5 when i know everything is in my system and kicking.i plan on running the IGF 25days on and 25 days off for a total of 3 cycles with it.all the while running gear.i had a few thoughts on how to run it though,i read that it is best split into 2 daily injections,or its best shot pwo bilateral.some even say it is best used at nite before sleep.IM or SUB Q...there just seems to be so many variables.also should it be run 25 days continuous even on non workout days or 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off.i will be using REDBARONS method of mixing 88ius bw and 12ius distilled white vineger steralized through a whatman for each 100mcg vial.
any input is appreciated
btw, i was thinking on running it 20mcg/ed for the first week and then up it by 20mcg each additional week untill im at 80mcg/ed
thanks fellas

**Troyboy** · 10-11-2004, 01:44 PM

Run 40mcg ED for 25 days. Take the shots IM before bed will help to reduce bodyfat.
If you want you could do 20mcg in the morning and 20mcg at night, Its up to you.

Take 25 days off and run it again if you are going to cycle it.

**DEVLDOG** · 10-11-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Troyboy

Run 40mcg ED for 25 days. Take the shots IM before bed will help to reduce bodyfat.
If you want you could do 20mcg in the morning and 20mcg at night, Its up to you.

Take 25 days off and run it again if you are going to cycle it.

are you speaking from experience(if so what type of gains did you achieve doing it this way)if not,i have read just about every option on taking it.dosages,times...etc.the jury is out on all.

**KGBnine** · 10-11-2004, 01:52 PM

IM, bilaterally, post work out. I ran 40mcg's ED for about 23 days. On non-workout days, I would inject the next morning in the same muscle worked out the day before.

**Troyboy** · 10-11-2004, 01:53 PM

This is not from experience YET, but this is how I am going to run it next week...

I know a handful of guys who ran it this way and gained roughly 8lbs muscle and lost some BF....

**DEVLDOG** · 10-11-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by aXe

IM, bilaterally, post work out. I ran 40mcg's ED for about 23 days. On non-workout days, I would inject the next morning in the same muscle worked out the day before.

would you run it the same way next time or try something different??
thanx for your input bro

**DEVLDOG** · 10-11-2004, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Troyboy

This is not from experience YET, but this is how I am going to run it next week...

I know a handful of guys who ran it this way and gained roughly 8lbs muscle and lost some BF....

ok,cool bro

**Troyboy** · 10-11-2004, 01:57 PM

From what I have gathered from guys using it, if you inject before bed, it will help to reduce BF.

If you do IM after a workout it will help with site growth.

Of course its going to have both these effects, however, one a bit more then the other if you do it these ways...

**DEVLDOG** · 10-11-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Troyboy

From what I have gathered from guys using it, if you inject before bed, it will help to reduce BF.

If you do IM after a workout it will help with site growth.

Of course its going to have both these effects, however, one a bit more then the other if you do it these ways...

i think im just going SUB q 2x ed 10hrs apart for this 1st go around

**Troyboy** · 10-11-2004, 02:02 PM

That will do fine... As long as its getting into you it will be working!

Let us know how you like it. Good luck bro.

**DEVLDOG** · 10-11-2004, 03:50 PM

will do

**KGBnine** · 10-11-2004, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

would you run it the same way next time or try something different??
thanx for your input bro

I would do it the same way. This is the way einstein suggested to me and I think it works great. Good luck.

**Troyboy** · 10-11-2004, 06:07 PM

Devldog, Any particular reason you are going to run it sub q ED x2 a day? Just wondering...

**Ridla** · 10-11-2004, 09:56 PM

can it be taken orally.....IGF?

**marlin444** · 10-11-2004, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

just a couple of thoughts before i add my igf to my cycle .this will be my first go around with it.i will be running slin also.i have a good amount of user experience with slin.i may add that im into my 4th week of
dbol 50mg/ed
sust 250mg eod
deca 200mg eod
i wanted to wait til week 5 when i know everything is in my system and kicking.i plan on running the IGF 25days on and 25 days off for a total of 3 cycles with it.all the while running gear.i had a few thoughts on how to run it though,i read that it is best split into 2 daily injections,or its best shot pwo bilateral.some even say it is best used at nite before sleep.IM or SUB Q...there just seems to be so many variables.also should it be run 25 days continuous even on non workout days or 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off.i will be using REDBARONS method of mixing 88ius bw and 12ius distilled white vineger steralized through a whatman for each 100mcg vial.
any input is appreciated
btw, i was thinking on running it 20mcg/ed for the first week and then up it by 20mcg each additional week untill im at 80mcg/ed
thanks fellas

also use the igf with the dbols. i read a couple places that a biproduct of the 17aa steroids is released in the liver that works in conjunction with the igf. ill find you a document on this as soon as i find it.

**DEVLDOG** · 10-12-2004, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Troyboy

Devldog, Any particular reason you are going to run it sub q ED x2 a day? Just wondering...

my reasonnig is that since the 1/2 life is around 12hrs 2xed would give me a steady flow.like i said,this is my first go around.i will try different methods each time and see what worked the best.

**Troyboy** · 10-13-2004, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by RedBaron

I ran one cycle of IGF-1 twice a day, and subsequently once a day. For me running it once a day PWO and in the morning on non-workout days has worked as well as when I ran it twice......I know some other bros have said they benefited from the extra injection, but it just hasn't panned out for me that way. The other reason I don't take a IGF-1 injection at night is because I don't want to shut off my night-time endogenous secretion of HGH.

Growth hormone secretion is also part of a negative feedback loop involving IGF-1. High blood levels of IGF-1 lead to decreased secretion of growth hormone not only by directly suppressing the somatotroph, but also by stimulating release of somatostatin from the hypothalamus. If I hit a good dose of IGF-1 at bedtime, I am pretty much shutting down the HGH release that would normally occur at night.

For me, about 60mcg's is what I have settled in on. I have also settled in on about a 40 day cycle length, shooting once a day (pwo on workout days, first thing in the am on non-workout days). I have taken my bf% down from about 11% at the outset of experimenting down to about 6% now.....and I have actually held my weight in the process.....can't ask for much more than that!

Anyway, that is my .02. Best of luck to you.
RedBaron