GH and what?

**Tom44** · 01-03-2005, 04:40 PM

I just got a gh kit and i want to start taking it mostly to get lean and maintain the muscle i have. i heard that i need to take test with it but i want the water retention to be as low as possible. i have propinate, and enthanate, i also have equipoise , deca , masteron and tren i tend to buy different products when they are available. what and how much do you people suggest i use. Hope this isn't one of those stupid questions that piss people off.

**c5529** · 01-03-2005, 04:54 PM

what is your cycle history? what are your current stats?

**tycin** · 01-03-2005, 05:11 PM

nned to know stats bro, and gh isnt for a novice user how many cycles u have under ur belt?

**Tom44** · 01-04-2005, 05:43 AM

i got 5 cycles under my belt i've been training for over 20 years and only started using the juice 2 years ago....not sure of my bodyfat percentage not too bad though...right now i'm using anavar , masteron , and trebolen, and one shot of test a week.

**c5529** · 01-04-2005, 11:27 AM

Wow, Tom44 there are a lot of options for you to consider based on your experience and goals so this is hard to help you with.....

You could go with Test E at 500 mgs per week, EQ at maybe 400 mgs per week, and then some Tren A at 75 mgs ED (the tren for about 6 weeks). Instead of Test E you could go with the prop, but keep in mind you need to shoot that everyday.... Of course you want to have some nolva included or look at something like Proviron to keep the water down and maintain hardness (proviron works great for this)...I guess I'd recommend the Test E, EQ, Tren A, and Proviron....but maybe some others have recommendations as well.....
hope this helps.

***JohnnyB*** · 01-04-2005, 11:35 AM

I'd go basic HGH/test

JohnnyB

**tycin** · 01-04-2005, 11:37 AM

i would go with some test e and gh, like johnny said keep it basic.

**tycin** · 01-04-2005, 11:38 AM

if u dont want water then look into prop.

**c5529** · 01-04-2005, 11:46 AM

Tycin and JohnnyB, just curious -- why would you not suggest he add EQ as well since he wants the harder look and to maintain the gains as much as possible??? He's done 5 cycles so should be ok with adding EQ in with the Test and GH....again, I'm NOT flaming AT ALL -- I'm just interested in your thoughts....Thanks Bros!

**frank_frank** · 01-04-2005, 03:21 PM

i would go with prop and HGH..
i've had good results with prop.. good strength and really "tightens" u up..best way to describe how i felt

**tycin** · 01-04-2005, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by c5529

Tycin and JohnnyB, just curious -- why would you not suggest he add EQ as well since he wants the harder look and to maintain the gains as much as possible??? He's done 5 cycles so should be ok with adding EQ in with the Test and GH....again, I'm NOT flaming AT ALL -- I'm just interested in your thoughts....Thanks Bros!

eq would b fine to add but i think he would get good results from test and gh. eq will harden u up more, im doin prop,eq,deca and gh.

**tycin** · 01-04-2005, 03:28 PM

might as well start off simple and c the results, there always gon b a next time.

**c5529** · 01-04-2005, 05:56 PM

makes sense...

**tycin** · 01-04-2005, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by c5529

makes sense...

johnny might have a better reason but that was mine.

**Tom44** · 01-04-2005, 07:09 PM

the proviron is good for keeping the water retention down? I'm already retaining some water now...how much gh should i start with? when i mix the 2 vials together and it makes 10 iu if i don't use all 10 in one shot do i just refrigerate the leftover? where exactly do i stick it? i have insulin needles. that was 500mg of prop a week? 2 shots right?