HGH testing?

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-03-2006, 10:06 PM

I've heard that HGH isnt detectable even to olympic sports. How true is this?? What about NCAA d1 testing? If it is testable what do you think the detection time would be?
-Wild

**Pinnacle** · 02-03-2006, 10:14 PM

I know thy Olympic committee is trying to come up with a test from HGH.I haven't heard if they succeeded or not.I really don't follow the sports doping laws all that much...bump for your answer..

~Pinnacle~

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-03-2006, 10:19 PM

Well my thinking and correct me if it seems off. But Olympic sports drug testing is considered top class for drug tests. I mean they run into all of the "new drugs" if ya know what i mean. So if they dont have a HGH test (we are talking urine testing by the way b/c i'm sure its possible to test for HGH in the blood) then like NCAA's wouldnt have one yet and like professional sports wouldnt have them either. If one has them the other would adopt the info agreed?

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-04-2006, 06:12 PM

bump for further insight...

***JohnnyB*** · 02-04-2006, 08:48 PM

They might not have a test to determine if you are using HGH or not, but if your IGF-1 levels are above the normal range, there's only one, well 2 reasons why. 1) you're using HGH, 2) you're using rhIGF-1.

JohnnyB

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-04-2006, 10:22 PM

hmm this is true, Johnny. Very good point. My next question would be about detection times. Say you take 2-4ui's on monday. When would you be "normal" in your IGF-1 range? I'm kinda confused about this because I've heard dosages at 5 on 2 off? and all on. To me, gives me the impression that its very short. If i remember correctly. 18hrs? correct me if i'm wrong as i'm not sober at this point (had to spoil myself with a little fun every now and then)
-Wild

**rodge** · 02-05-2006, 04:03 AM

i had bloodwork once 3 days after my last hgh shot and my igf-1 levels were stil skyhigh.

-rodge

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-05-2006, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

i had bloodwork once 3 days after my last hgh shot and my igf-1 levels were stil skyhigh.

-rodge

Rodge, I'm sure bloodwork would come back high. What do you think about a urine test? Can one test igf-1 in through urine? In NCAA's its all urine testing thats why i ask.

Edit: I mean they state they can but they also state they can test for HGH. and it leads me to wonder if they are just bullshitting b/c i havent heard of any tests anywhere of HGH through urine.

**rodge** · 02-05-2006, 11:11 AM

not through urine test as far as i know.

-rodge

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-05-2006, 03:46 PM

look at this list....
http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_o...ug_classes.pdf
I doubt NCAA can find HGH or IGF-1 in your urine. Let alone the amount of it. bumping for further points of view. thanks for everyones input so far.
-Wild

**TheNextBigThing** · 02-06-2006, 12:22 AM

I worried about the same thing bro. I was told by a trainer that this past year was the first year the NCAA incorporated testing for GH into it's regiment. The good thing is, that they only test a small number of atheletes (elite). I talked with someone who works for a testing company and he said that HGH can only be detected by a blood test, but I do not know about high levels of IGF. IGF levels may be able to be tested for in urine (I have no idea) and when your levels are through the roof, I am sure that would be cause enough to give you the GH test. I didn't think it was worth it.

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-06-2006, 07:55 AM

problem is Thenext, you could consdier myself in the elite group. I think the best thing to do is to call a testing company and talk to them about it as if you were writing an article on the subject. B/c i really am doubting IGF levels in urine. Needless to say i'm gonna find out.
-Wild

***JohnnyB*** · 02-06-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

not through urine test as far as i know.

-rodge

I don't thing they can either. Are you sure they're doing a piss test?

JohnnyB

***JohnnyB*** · 02-06-2006, 03:08 PM

On the peptides they have analogues in the mix, LR3 IGf-1 is an analog of rh IGF-1, they cover their basis don't they.

JohnnyB

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-06-2006, 03:32 PM

yah they do ,JohnnyB. In recent news i found out they are testing my University tomorrow haha. Needless to say i'm not on it. But i can definitely get some insider info on testing process. I already figured out that all one needs is a student id card with your picture on it. Its Super easy to get ur face on another persons id haha. Little off subject.

So johnny ur saying LR3 would show up under the analogues? But they still cant find HGH right? from my understanding.

I'm sure they are doing a piss test. And what I'm figuring out is if they can really test for everything they "ban" through urine testing. I dont think they can test for HGH and slin (slin doesnt really matter b/c its out of ya in a matter of hours) Can someone help me out with figuring out if HGH is testable through urine?

**TheNextBigThing** · 02-06-2006, 09:00 PM

From everything I have been told, HGH can only be tested for through a blood test. The thing that you also have to find out is if they can test IGF levels in urine. The normal protocol for an NCAA test is a urine test and I have never heard of anyone getting a blood test, but as I said before they did start testing for it (which I guess would mean a blood test). Also I talked to someone who was on LR3 and was tested. He passed.

**Wildcatbadass** · 02-06-2006, 10:59 PM

when u sign all the NCAA papers in the beginning of the year i belive you only agree or at least the testing procedure is described as a urine test. Thus they would be violating their " argeement with anyone they tested by blood. Which would make it void either way. but your right I do need to find out if one can test the level of igf-1 through urine. I'm contacting a testing lab. i'll let everyone know. I'm also gonna find out what lab the NCAA send theirs off to get tested and i'll call them aswell. See there is a difference in LR3 becuase it binds poorly. and is hard to detect that way. but raised IGF-1 is difference and i'm not sure about currently.

-Wild

**TheNextBigThing** · 02-07-2006, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Wildcatbadass

when u sign all the NCAA papers in the beginning of the year i belive you only agree or at least the testing procedure is described as a urine test. Thus they would be violating their " argeement with anyone they tested by blood. Which would make it void either way. but your right I do need to find out if one can test the level of igf-1 through urine. I'm contacting a testing lab. i'll let everyone know. I'm also gonna find out what lab the NCAA send theirs off to get tested and i'll call them aswell. See there is a difference in LR3 becuase it binds poorly. and is hard to detect that way. but raised IGF-1 is difference and i'm not sure about currently.

-Wild

I would appreciate that very much if you could find that out. I haven't gotten an answer to whether or not IGF can be tested for in urine. You are right about the agreement though, I looked through it and all it said was a urine test. Good luck with your inquiries and let us know what happens.