Slin q w/ sport..

[Wildcatbadass]

ok bros,
I'm in season right now and currently on some Test Suspension. 2nd wk. We play usually like 4 times a week and like 4 times a week. I've been eating pretty good. In season i'm more concerned with getting the nutrients and not worry so much about it being a spotless diet b/c I'm in season i'm burning alot more cal's. I'm up 2 lbs so far from the suspension so i'm eating enough to gain.
Now to my question. I wanted to add some slin in on my workout days. My concern here is that we play a game and then go lift (i grab a shake between). But does anyone see any concerns with a game, shake, workout then slin administration? thanks for the help. I'm sure i left out some info to get agood anwser but lets start here.
-Wild

[Gear]

I never really agreed with doing any kind of cardio before weights but if that sort of training works well for you guys then stick to that I suppose.

Insulin is actually supposed to be taken post weight training so you aren't really doing anything wrong. The shake in between is a good idea as you are giving your body the fuel after it has been exercising.

-Gear

[Wildcatbadass]

Gear,
I shoulda told you its baseball so its not exactly cardio ya know. The games just last 3hrs on average and its usually reps in short distances. I guess i was wondering if you think i'd be more likely to go into hypo considering i'm doing a sport, then hitting a shake, then weights, then following the slin. Any further thoguhts on that?
Wild

[Gear]

Ohh, ok ok, I missunderstood a part of your query there.

The more you train the more chance there would be of you going hypo. Because sooner or later your body will run out of energy, and once this happens hypo may occur. If I was you, I would have a carb/protein drink after your baseball game, and then train weights. This way you can giving your body recovery fuel as well as a bit of energy for the weights training.

As I said, I have never agreed on playing a sport/cardioing then weight training and then using slin, simply because I think its too much at once which is going to increase the chances of going hypo.

Just be carefull and start of with a low dose.

All the best mate.

-Gear

[Wildcatbadass]

i think i can manage it correctly but throwing in a protein bar during the game and gatorade to keep sugar levels up. This and post game shake should do the trick with ample time to use the nutrients. I'm thinking we get 30 min of downtime between game and lift. I know its not ideal but i dont have to much say in it and i'm trying to put its to full use.

The Protein bar has 15g protein and 24g carbs. Cant remember the fat amount off the top of my head but it wouldnt really matter b/c it would be burned off during competition.


I need to go ahead and get a nutrient info on Gatorade and exactly how much i should be drinking During the game. I'm thinking 20oz tops.

The post game shake can either be a whey protein shake w/ zero carbs or a replacement shake containing 20 g protein, 54g carbs (28g sugars),8g fat. I'm thinking the replacement shake is better at this point in time.

Then workout (hr long session)
Slin administraion
post 15min slin admin. protein50 g/ 70g dextrose shake (edit this amount if you feel something is better).

post 1hr slin admin. Whole food meal.
Carry can of coke around for 2-2.5 hrs post slin admin.

Next thing.
I think it might be good idea to start checking my blood sugars before the game and after the game to get some ideas on sugar level depletions. Whats a typical normal reading. I know everyone is different with blood sugar levels but what is a typical reading for someone who is considered hypo?

Thanks for all the insight and help Gear. anyone else is welcome too.
-Wild

[Gear]

30 min break is a lot better than jumping straight on to the weights. You would probably need a bit more carbs, pref around the 30g mark at least, same with the protein too.

The post game shake is best of containing both proteins and carbohydrates.

Have your slin shot immidietly after weight training, the immidietly after your shot have your "x" amount of carbs. Note that you need about 10g of carbs for every 1IU of insulin . So if you are takin 4IU, you would need 40g of carbohydrates. 15 min after your carb consumption have your protein shake, about 70g is plenty. 1.25hrs have a pro/carb meal, 2.00hrs later have another pro/carb meal. By the time you have your next meal slin will no longer be active therefore you may eat as you usually do.

Checking your BG levels is a great idea. That will give you an idea on if you are having too much carbs or not enough. Def a great idea.

As for readings, there is a chart on here I posted a while ago. I'll try and find that for you. But generally speaking, avg safe readings are between 75 - 100.

-Gear

[Wildcatbadass]

Gear,
i ended up buying a onetouch ultrasmart BG meter off of ebay for like 1/5 of the retail cost. I think the log book will really help me to see one a game affects my levels. I figure i can test post game/before workout and before game to monitor whats going on as far as sugar needs. sound like a good idea?

I'm thinking i'm just going to do sub-Q with it too.

You would probably need a bit more carbs, pref around the 30g mark at least, same with the protein too. You talking simple sugars or complex here? Wouldnt simple spike me a little bit prior to the workout?

I also would have to stay awake for 4hrs post slin admin? if not how long til its safe to go to bed?

[Gear]

Yeah bro, testing is the key. Test your BG levels all day long, upon waking up, lunch time, before workout, after workout and bed time. It's good to know how your BG levels work throughout the day especially before and after workout, then when you take slin you will be able to tell if there is a huge difference in BG levels. So yes that's a great idea.

As for going Sub-Q, as a beginner it probabably is a good idea to go Sub-Q because the sides won't hit you as fast, but then again it stays in your system for longer too. Either way, Sub-Q or IM it will def get the job done.

Simple sugars bro. You want fast acting carbohydrates because at that time your body needs fuel that will respond immidietly. Complex will not do this, simple will. Dextrose is your best bet.

You don't want to fall asleep while slin is active as insulin can have an effect on you while you are asleep and send you into coma without anyone relising because you would look like you are sleeping anyway. Be very carefull as insulin tends to make you sleepy sometimes. Keep those eyes wide open.

Insulin is active for about 4hrs. On the chart it actually says it doesn't totally exit your system till about the 6th hour, but you should be right going to bed anytime after the 4hr mark.

I wish you all the best mate.

-Gear