a lot of basic questions

**WEBB** · 05-30-2006, 10:09 AM

So i have a pile of questions for everyone so get ready and do your best
I really want to try it in my next cycle, which will not contain GH, just aas and i will be running it for 12 weeks it will consist of test p and deca . my stats are, i am 27yrs old, 6'1 275 @ 10% ( these are my stats when i will be doing the igf Lr3 )...i am dieting for a show now so my stats are a little different...i am a competitive BB and have a lot of knowledge on aas but none on igf. so now you know my stats and a bit about me, now here come the questions.

1) what is a reccommended dose for me? 100mcg ed?
2) If so then a 1000mcg vial last me 10 days, correct? assuming 100mcg ed
2a) 100mcg is equal to 5 i.u's?
3) i can get it mixed so it is ready to shoot i dont need to do anything to it. right?
4) do i need to do gh, slin, or any specific type of aas to benifit more?
5) how do i shot it IM or subq? with a slin pin?
6) is site injection a good idea for localized growth?
7) high protein diet and around 120g carbs ed correct?what about fat?
7a) cardio helps but not nessasry to go crazy with it correct?
9) What should i expect, fat lose, muscle gains, or both?
10) how do i store it?
11) how long should it be ran for to see the best results?
12) according to my math and 1000mcg vial last 10-13 days, is it worth it?
13) do i do it all at once or split my shots daily into prewo and postwo?
14) what do i eat right after my shot? if so what?

well that is it for now, thanks boys and sorry i took so long....Peace

**spound** · 05-30-2006, 06:45 PM

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**spound** · 05-30-2006, 06:49 PM

I will answer the ones I know to the best of my knowledge below in caps:

Originally Posted by WEBB

1) what is a reccommended dose for me? 100mcg ed?

100MCG WOULD BE GOOD, BUT MOST WOULD START OUT AROUND 40-60MCG'S AND SEE HOW THAT GOES, IF YOU RESPND GREAT, IF NOT, THEN MOVE UP.

2) If so then a 1000mcg vial last me 10 days, correct? assuming 100mcg ed

IF USING 100MCG'S ED THEN YES 1MG OF IGF WILL LAST 10 DAYS

2a) 100mcg is equal to 5 i.u's?
IF YOU GET ALREADY MIXED IGF, THEN 5 IU'S (5 TICKS ON A U-100 SLIN PIN) WILL NORMALLY BE 50MCG'S I BELIEVE

3) i can get it mixed so it is ready to shoot i dont need to do anything to it. right?
YES YOU CAN, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND GETTING IT IN LYPHOLYIZED POWDER FORM B/C IT WONT DEGRADE AS EASILY, AND YOU CAN DILUTE IT MORE TO THE CONCENTRATION YOU WOULD LIKE SO LESS IGF IS LEFT IN THE PIN

4) do i need to do gh, slin, or any specific type of aas to benifit more? YOU DO NOT HAVE TO , BUT ANY OF THESE COULD ADD BENEFIT AND A SYNERGISTIC EFFECT

5) how do i shot it IM or subq? with a slin pin? MOST SHOOT IT IM PRE OR POST WORKOUT, YES WITH A SLIN PIN

6) is site injection a good idea for localized growth?
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THIS, MOST WOULD AGREE I WOULD THINK

7) high protein diet and around 120g carbs ed correct?what about fat? HIGH PROTEIN FOR SURE, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE REST, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE COULD ANSWER THAT. IT WOULD DEPEND MROE ON YOUR GOALS THOUGH, WHEN I USED IT AT 60MCG'S ED I WAS EATING 400G OF CARBS AND STAYING LEAN AND PUTTING ON MASS, SO I WOULD KEEP THE CARBS HIGH AS WELL, ORTOEIN IS THE MSOT IMPORTANT THING

7a) cardio helps but not nessasry to go crazy with it correct? DEPENDS ON YORU GOALS BRO, YOU KNOW THAT

9) What should i expect, fat lose, muscle gains, or both? BOTH, IN SLIGHT INCREMENTS, DONT EXPECT ANY IRACLES HERE

10) how do i store it? IN THE FRIDGE/FREEZER

11) how long should it be ran for to see the best results? ~30 DAYS

12) according to my math and 1000mcg vial last 10-13 days, is it worth it? THAT WILL VARY FROM PERSON TO PERSON, FOR ME, I WOUDL HAVE TO SAY NOT REALLY, ITS NOTHING SOME TIGHTENING UP ON THE DIET AND SWITCHING DIFFERENT AAS COMPOUNDS CAN'T ACHIEVE, UNLESS MAYBE DOING A SHOW OR SOEMTHING

13) do i do it all at once or split my shots daily into prewo and postwo? ONCE DAILY IS FINE IMO, I LIKED PRE WORKOUT ONLY, ABOUT 30 MINUTES PRIOR

14) what do i eat right after my shot? if so what? I POUNDED CARBS AND PROTEIN AND GOT GREAT PUMPS

well that is it for now, thanks boys and sorry i took so long....Peace

**WEBB** · 05-30-2006, 06:55 PM

thanks man...that is exactly what i needed to know....I am doing a show and was thining of adding it now, 3 weeks out but i dont know if i should just wait till after this show and do like 6 weeks of it...any thoughts?

***JohnnyB*** · 05-30-2006, 08:21 PM

1) Starting dose for anyone is 40-80mcg, 40mcg if you have low HGH/IGF-1 levels. So I'd say 60mcg is a good dose to start for you.

2) Yes, a) No, if the 1000mcg is suspended in 1 ml, 10iu on a slin pin will be 100mcg.

3) Yes you can

4) The addition of those would be beneficial, but for your first run at LR3, you want to see how your body is going to react to it. So I say do it alone or with PCT, that way you'll know how your body reacts to LR3.

5) IM, slin pin, post work out

6) Not with LR3 IGF-1. What we call "The Pump" is fluid that has IGF-1 Binding Proteins in it, your damaged muscles have IGF-1 receptor. The fluid binds the IGF-1 to the damaged muscles to start the haeling process. Since LR3 binds poorly to IGF-1 BP, the full (larger part) dose will not be bound to the damaged muscles, like rhIGF-1 would be. So you'll be getting small amounts of IGF-1 analog (LR3) during the active life of the LR3. In those first few hours you can take advantage of the insulin -like factor of LR3 IGF-1. The insulin-like part, will shuttle nutrients into the damaged muscle, to help with the recovery process. I do a protein/carb drink when I do my injection PWO, then another protein shake with 25-50 grams of protein an hour later. Then another hour after that, I'll eat a meal with protein and carbs, with low fat.

7) That depends on what you goal is, if you are trying to gain mass, you'll need more carbs, to get the calorie count up. As far as fat goes, I keep it down for the first 3 hours after my injection, then I go to whatever my diet is at the time. a) That would be goal orientated, for me I get my shot in as soon as I can after I'm done with my w/o, so I don't do any cardio after my training.

9) I got both, gained some lean mass and drop some fat

10) Keep it in the frig.

11) 4-5 weeks

12) That depends on the dose you run.

13) With 60mcg, all at once, post work out, if you were to run 80mcg then you could do a shot when you wake up and another PWO.

14) I drink a shake with carbs, protein, gultamine peptides and multi-vitamin and mineral powder in it. But that's just what I do, as long as you get the carbs and proetin down you're doing good

JohnnyB

**WEBB** · 05-31-2006, 05:03 AM

Well thanks agin guys...problem solved i gues

Just one more quick question, should i start it now 3 weeks from a comp, or what till i am done the comp and run it then wi th my next cycle???

**spound** · 06-01-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

Well thanks agin guys...problem solved i gues

Just one more quick question, should i start it now 3 weeks from a comp, or what till i am done the comp and run it then wi th my next cycle???

SInce I have never tried it while dieting for a show (I am dieting for my first show right now) I really can't give you any sound advice here unfortunately. I will say though that a guy over on professional muscle used it precpntest leading up to the show and loved it, saying it kept him really full and vasular.