My HGH Results

[Triposinator]

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[oswaldosalcedo]

I posted this on 6/16/06. I'll update as time goes on. Seems to be a lot of questions on Hgh, and few "pure" Hgh cycle logs.

I'm 50, 5' 9" started hgh at 192 pounds, and 13% body fat. Taking Hgh
in order to assist with some stuburn fat loss ( I picked up some of this shit in the 60s I think), and to see if I can regain some skin tone/firmness. Might start my second AAS cycle in August. But still figuring that out.

I'm now in my 12th week of Jins. Started at 2IU/day, then gradually got to 4IU about week six. I've been at 4IU. No AAS, etc.

Running clean diet, 2,800+/- cals a day and 200-250gr of protien.

My results:
Dropped about 3mm of abdominal fat. All other areas I track (use 7 point measurement system) are steady. Gained about 5 pounds, which I think is ALL water. No strength gains whatsoever.

Old, persistent areas of tendonitis, left elbow and right delt, which I've lived with for years are gone now.

I sweat like hell during my workout, much heavier than before.

Some signs of edema in my hands, particularly when I make a fist.

At this point I'm not judging any of this to be above or below my expectations. I'm holding out for week 27, and I'll decide if this was worth it or not.

interesting...............

[Timm1704]

i look forward to seeing your results.

[oswaldosalcedo]

you think that will be good for the arthritis?

[Expat]

interesting...............

Thanks for sharing, keep us posted,

you did say you acquired some of this sh$t in the 60's? Are you talking about years when you say 60's ? What did you pick up?

It is interesting to see how much quicker you will heal as well!

[fossilfuel7]

This is great feedback you are giving on your results!

I am going to take Gh for tendonitis reasons myself.

Please keep us updated with your results.

[R&D]

Thanks for sharing, keep us posted,

you did say you acquired some of this sh$t in the 60's? Are you talking about years when you say 60's ? What did you pick up?

It is interesting to see how much quicker you will heal as well!

He's talking about the persistent fat.

[R&D]

Nice log Trip. I very much look forward to hearing more.

[lzicc]

Thanks for the feedback. Please keep us posted on your progress.

[zaggahamma]

would love to get rid of the tendonitis

[fossilfuel7]

would love to get rid of the tendonitis

That makes two of us

[Seattle Junk]

I can attest my right elbow tendonitis is now gone as of a week or so ago. I could really feel it when doing heavy curls before. I would get a sharp pain in the elbow that was very annoying. Now I can go as heavy as I want with no pain. I've been on Jin for 6 weeks now, 3ius. I'm also on 500mgs sustanon , 400mgs EQ, 40mgs tbol, 100mcgs t4.

37 y.o., 5'11", 220lbs, 13-14%bf...

[Triposinator]

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[Expat]

Bro, there must have been a glich on your profile , as I looked thinking that is what you were talking about was years.But your profile then said you were born in 1964, that is why I questioned th 60's

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I'm feeling pretty good with the direction things are going with Hgh.

I was referring to some of the stuburn fat Expat, Been there so long its fossilized But I think hgh is helping. Trouble is water retention makes it difficult to get consistent measures. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a dough-boy looking for a miracle.

Getting rid of tendonitis, etc. is WONDERFUL ! Arm and shoulder days are a whole new deal, and this is paying off in terms of definition afforded by freedom to test new limits.

I know the word on this board is 4ius can be done in a single injection, but I'm doing twice a day, unless afterwork commitments force an early am only injection.

I'm a borderline OCD about my diet. That is the only "other" thing in this cycle

[zaggahamma]

Bro, there must have been a glich on your profile , as I looked thinking that is what you were talking about was years.But your profile then said you were born in 1964, that is why I questioned th 60's

I don't think profiles always reflect the TRUE age

[Triposinator]

Interesting, when I look at it, it is exactly correct. Really!

In fact it looks like our B-days are within 20 days of each other.

Given our combined age, we could safely say, we're both confused

Bro, there must have been a glich on your profile , as I looked thinking that is what you were talking about was years.But your profile then said you were born in 1964, that is why I questioned th 60's

[Vegas1973]

Good read here. I'll be following this thread to see your progress. I hope you keep up the posts.

[Triposinator]

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[zaggahamma]

thanks for keeping the post updated...will continue to subscribe and best of luck

[airbornefury]

are you only taking HG on its own, no insulin ,T3 or T4

[vermin]

I am glad to see the healing aspects of HGH being reported/explored here. For years I've had a "crunchy" left wrist. It would grind when I rotated it, it would not so much crack as snap, and when I loaded up (esp. for dumbbell shoulder, etc.) it would hurt like a red hot spike was driven through my palm into my forearm. After 12 weeks of 2.5 IU HGH the wrist is still weaker than my right, but overall nearly healed of the above.

IMHO, this effect is perhaps a big endorsement of HGH in lower doses when compared to the folks who say that "if you can't run 10IU+/day you are wasting your time". It also pisses me off because any ortho who looked at my wrist told me the only option was major surgery which would have incapacitated my left arm for a good while and ultimately required me to stop heavy lifts. The SOBs either know about HGH but hide it, or are just plain too stupid to entrust my health to....

[fred9]

would be nice such a once in a month update..
ur results sounds quite good...good luck with the rest of ur cycle...

[Ufa]

I am glad to see the healing aspects of HGH being reported/explored here. For years I've had a "crunchy" left wrist. It would grind when I rotated it, it would not so much crack as snap, and when I loaded up (esp. for dumbbell shoulder, etc.) it would hurt like a red hot spike was driven through my palm into my forearm. After 12 weeks of 2.5 IU HGH the wrist is still weaker than my right, but overall nearly healed of the above.

IMHO, this effect is perhaps a big endorsement of HGH in lower doses when compared to the folks who say that "if you can't run 10IU+/day you are wasting your time". It also pisses me off because any ortho who looked at my wrist told me the only option was major surgery which would have incapacitated my left arm for a good while and ultimately required me to stop heavy lifts. The SOBs either know about HGH but hide it, or are just plain too stupid to entrust my health to....

Way to go. I have also had very positive results using 2 iu's of Saizen daily or
2iu's am & 2iu's afternoon EOD. I had two buldging disc's in lower back, they even wanted to cut. It's all gone. I think if you procure quality product, you don't need 10 iu's of bunk. I plan on doing this indefinately. However, I want to stop for a month or two and see if things hold out.

[fossilfuel7]

I am glad to see the healing aspects of HGH being reported/explored here. For years I've had a "crunchy" left wrist. It would grind when I rotated it, it would not so much crack as snap, and when I loaded up (esp. for dumbbell shoulder, etc.) it would hurt like a red hot spike was driven through my palm into my forearm. After 12 weeks of 2.5 IU HGH the wrist is still weaker than my right, but overall nearly healed of the above.

IMHO, this effect is perhaps a big endorsement of HGH in lower doses when compared to the folks who say that "if you can't run 10IU+/day you are wasting your time". It also pisses me off because any ortho who looked at my wrist told me the only option was major surgery which would have incapacitated my left arm for a good while and ultimately required me to stop heavy lifts. The SOBs either know about HGH but hide it, or are just plain too stupid to entrust my health to....

That's great to hear!

You are right about the doctors.

Ticks me off as well .

"Oh I'm afraid surgery is the only option you have" Damn doctors

[Triposinator]

Only Hgh. Jintropin to be exact. Nothing else. 2iu upon rising in the am
2iu after work. No gaps or days off, unless travel interupts.

are you only taking HG on its own, no insulin ,T3 or T4

[Triposinator]

Now at 5 months

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My 6 month report.

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[vermin]

Hey Trip, how much do you weigh?

Sorry - it seems you are still more or less 192 (if I follow through and add/subtract along).

Since you are tracking your IGF levels, it really does not matter - that is evidence enough that you may need a higher dose.

There have been a mess of papers at different doses, but if we go back to the beginning to the 1990 Rudman et. al. they kept their patients between 500-1500, with a 25% boost in dose if they were below 500, and they kept boosting until they got above 500.

If you hope to replicate Rudman's results (and it seems you are probably a good candidate to do so - your age is right, and if you are only at 450 IGF while taking 4IU - they looked for patients with 350 or less natty) then you will probably need to boost your dose.

The formula that Rudman started with was .03mg/kg 3X week. So for you that would be (assuming my math is correct!) 2.62mg or 6.8IU 3X/week, or about 21IU/week. At 4IU/day - I scanned the thread again but I can't tell if this is ED, 5/2 or what - you are either right about this, or already above it.

Anyway, the study group had a mean of about 830IGF in Rudman's study, nearly twice yours. That does not mean you'd require 2X the HGH - it does seem to give a better than 1:1 response,though I am not aware of any study that shows exactly how the curve works.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Sound like your not so happy with the results....Hopefully in the next 3 months things will change!


tendon/iinjury healing - yes damn good stuff in this regard

Can you tell me what it healed and how specifically?

Did you have a torn or tendinitus which fully healed and is now pain free? If so where and tell me how bad it was and how long it took the HGH to free you from the pain....Thanks.

[Triposinator]

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[zaggahamma]

Thanks for your comments Hellmask. I had long term tendonitis in one elbow and one shoulder - nothing torn (that I know of anyway) just nagging pain which screwed up my workouts. I had tried 3 weeks layoffs, ice, heat you name it over the course of a couple of years. Nothing worked.

I started hgh at 2iu/day and within 6 weeks these issues vanished. This, in and of itself may have made the cycle worth while.

I really had very few expectations for what hgh might do. I was hoping for fat loss, tendonitis repair, improved skin tone (very difficult to measure). I'm batting 333 ....which aint all that bad. I was really out of options on the tendonitis.

I was thinking that but it wasn't for me to say, not the one paying for the GH
hope the cycle continues to benefit you

[1zach4]

Many reports, and even the HGH profile here says that many gains can be made by cycling injections every other day to reproduce the body's natural release of the hormone. Reproducing the body's natural timing has shown that the body takes to the injections a lot better than everyday injections.

Just my opinion, but I think you should try this style of dosing for a little while and see how it goes.

[Triposinator]

Indeed I think if you "buy" or expect all of the benefits mentioned around the internet you'll be dissapointed. I set my expectations fairly low.

I'm lucky though, I had little difficulty with side affects (see my earlier status reports). Guys like Kale got kicked in the balls by sides.

If I had his sides, spent my cash and gotten my results I'd feel differently.

I was thinking that but it wasn't for me to say, not the one paying for the GH
hope the cycle continues to benefit you

[Triposinator]

I actually see little logic for doing this. My most likely course will be:
- Start some AAS
- Up my dosage
- Both

Many reports, and even the HGH profile here says that many gains can be made by cycling injections every other day to reproduce the body's natural release of the hormone. Reproducing the body's natural timing has shown that the body takes to the injections a lot better than everyday injections.

Just my opinion, but I think you should try this style of dosing for a little while and see how it goes.

[comradebillyboy]

Thanks for your comments Hellmask. I had long term tendonitis in one elbow and one shoulder - nothing torn (that I know of anyway) just nagging pain which screwed up my workouts. I had tried 3 weeks layoffs, ice, heat you name it over the course of a couple of years. Nothing worked.

I started hgh at 2iu/day and within 6 weeks these issues vanished. This, in and of itself may have made the cycle worth while.

I really had very few expectations for what hgh might do. I was hoping for fat loss, tendonitis repair, improved skin tone (very difficult to measure). I'm batting 333 ....which aint all that bad. I was really out of options on the tendonitis.

From what I have read from your other posts, you don't have a lot of fat to lose. Still its unfortunate that such an expensive experiment is not giving you better results.

[vermin]

Here's the abstract on PubMed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum - I have a PDF of the full text - is it possible to attach to a PM?

[vermin]

It seems not.

[Triposinator]

You're right on several counts. My purpose for sharing this pure hgh ONLY log is to give others pure, unadulterated facts. Way too much BS around.

Still you never know....maybe things will turn for the better in the next few months. Nothing ventured nothing gained right?

From what I have read from your other posts, you don't have a lot of fat to lose. Still its unfortunate that such an expensive experiment is not giving you better results.