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**Brie** · 07-19-2006, 06:29 PM

im going to buy some but its sold allready reconstitute and ready to go how do you guys fell about this is it better to buy it and delute it on my own thanks for your help and i want to run at 100mcgs what type of slin pins do i need to buy

**RUI-Products** · 07-19-2006, 07:14 PM

don't by the reconsitiuted.It won't be bio active when you get it. THe peptide needs to be kept cold or it dies.It won't survive the shipping trip.

**Pure Power** · 07-19-2006, 07:14 PM

U100 pins are the most often used. I like longer pins though for IM injections, but then again i'm a fat bastard have to go alot deeper to hit muscle
=D
My first time with IGF-1lr3 I actualy used a standard 3cc pin. Newb mistake, it worked but I couldnt measure the compound verry well and SO MUCH gets lost in the needle, but i had great results and I used a pre-constituted type too.... I was starving every second.

**Brie** · 07-19-2006, 07:37 PM

bump

**Brie** · 07-19-2006, 07:51 PM

have anybody used the allready else used the reconsitiuted stuff

**rodge** · 07-19-2006, 11:20 PM

i always have used the reconstituted lr3 with great succes. i believe the peptide is quit stable in its correct environment(aa). have'nt ever used the freezed dryed lyophlized white powder tho except for igtropin wich gace me the excact same results for a whole lot more money.

so for now i'll keep it to reconsituted lr3.

-rodge

**pscarb** · 07-20-2006, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Lion

don't by the reconsitiuted.It won't be bio active when you get it. THe peptide needs to be kept cold or it dies.It won't survive the shipping trip.

but when mixed with an AA solution it won't die unless subjected to extreme heat....just out of intrest Lion do you sell reconstituted IGF??

i have used the reconstituted and the powdered form with no diffrence in results....

**monstermasss** · 07-20-2006, 10:14 AM

same here there are many studies and posts stating the whole keeping it frozen/cold 24/7 is over stated and its ok to be room temp for a while, 1 day or so. and ive used both, non reconstituted, and reconstituted and i feel they are the same?

**RUI-Products** · 07-20-2006, 11:08 AM

We sell the Lyophilized form. Witch is the only form it is sold in by the manufactures. They ship it to us overnight packed in 50 pounds of dry ice. It must stay under 34 degrees after being reconstituted.

The Reconstitiuted form is not sterile.

Anyone selling it reconstituted is buying it in Larger lyophilized vials mixing it and breaking it down into smaller vials and crimping it. IGF will not survive the heat of an autoclave.

So with reconstituted igf you have 2 issues to worry about. Heat!!!! Will the peptide still be bio active when you get it . It won't be sterile.

**RUI-Products** · 07-20-2006, 11:15 AM

Brie The cc slin pins will work great for you.

**bigtomo1** · 07-20-2006, 01:42 PM

i use reconstituted and they come shipped with cool packs so heat aint a problem and the stuff works great and at a good enough price too.

**WEBB** · 07-20-2006, 02:11 PM

i used 100mcg ed for my last show, and it was the greatest thing i used precomp..i got mine reconstituded also and on day 4 i had the best traing day i have had in 4 years, felt like my muscles were going to explode, i looked 280lbs but was only 235lbs and i was on zero carbs and doing a depletion training...i will but reconstituded anytime.....i love it and i am ordering 18 more vilas as we speak...

**pscarb** · 07-20-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Lion

We sell the Lyophilized form.

Well that speaks volumes

Originally Posted by Lion

The Reconstitiuted form is not sterile.

So all reconstituted forms are not sterile that is a big statement their lion so you have tested all reconstituted forms ??

Originally Posted by Lion

Anyone selling it reconstituted is buying it in Larger lyophilized vials mixing it and breaking it down into smaller vials and crimping it. IGF will not survive the heat of an autoclave.

so am i to believe what you are saying is that all reconstituted forms are useless....because i think you will find that hundreds if not thousands of guys have had great results with reconstituted IGF i myself have tried GenSci's lyophilized IGF and the reconstituted IGF and not seen any diffrences in results does this mean that only yours works???.....please...

**RUI-Products** · 07-20-2006, 06:18 PM

No I'm not saying our is the only one. I know of a few who are selling good IGF. I do kn ow there are alot of fakes around right now. THe have been tested and there not IGF. I suspect that GH is being sold as IGF.

Here my question to you. How do you know what you tried was IGF? Can you be sure the Resulfs were from the IGF? If your happy with the results you got make sure you able to keep the same supplier.

What I'm saying is that in the summer it is hot. You take it the way you want.

Sterility is a no brainer. THere's no way of getting the solution into a sealed sterile vial.

**pscarb** · 07-21-2006, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Lion

Here my question to you. How do you know what you tried was IGF? Can you be sure the Resulfs were from the IGF? If your happy with the results you got make sure you able to keep the same supplier.

i have used plenty of GH and IGF and there is no way you can mix up the results...

unless you know of a type of GH that gives you the extreme pumps that IGF-1LR3 does...

all i am saying is that when ever i see your post's you seem to be slamming other products other than your own to me that is very biased information....

like i said before there are plenty of users who have had good results from reconstituted IGF so for you to make a sweeping statement that it doesn't work is way off base...

RedBaron - yes i agree 100mcg's ed on your first run is stupid in my eyes as we all have a different tolerance to IGF i always advise to start on 40mcg's then increase if need be..

**bigtomo1** · 07-21-2006, 07:02 AM

think il be sticking with the reconstituted anyway,my advice to you brie would be to definatly try it,i find it fantastic stuff regardless of what some are trying to say.