question on join pain when taking HGH

[Maldorf]

I have been on HGH now, generics out of China, for about 2 months. Started out at 2 IU/day and worked up to 6IU/day now. I have been having pain in my knees and left shoulder. I cant decide if the pain is due to the HGH or just my insane lifting. I havent been getting any other possible side effects lately, but did have the numbness in my hands about 1 month ago but thats gone now. I had been doing a heavy powerlifting cycle of training for 6 weeks when the pains started out, so I thought it was that. I have since used lower resistance/higher reps but the pain is still persisting. Now I am wondering if it might be the HGH.
For those of you that have experienced the joint pain from HGH, what does it feel like? Right now it feels like I have petallar tendonitis in both knees and an irritated rotator cuff in my left shoulder. The knee pain is totally limited to the tendon. I have also read that HGH helps to heal connective tissues like tendons and ligaments, so maybe cutting back on the HGH isnt a good idea? ANyhow, I reduced my intake to 5IU/day now to see what happens.

[Triposinator]

Hopefully some Vets will have an answer for you.

My limited experience (now using hgh for the 1st time - 4 months in)

1st - old tendonitis went away within a few weeks of starting hgh
2nd - hand swelling and numbness started and subsided
3rd - I developed painful shoulder about 3 weeks ago - very generalized
pain. front, back, cap even down to upper lat on my left side. This
is now fading, but I'm still avoiding heavy lifts.

I did not cut back on hgh, I'm icing liberally, and holding out to see if the problem goes away.

I have been on HGH now, generics out of China, for about 2 months. Started out at 2 IU/day and worked up to 6IU/day now. I have been having pain in my knees and left shoulder. I cant decide if the pain is due to the HGH or just my insane lifting. I havent been getting any other possible side effects lately, but did have the numbness in my hands about 1 month ago but thats gone now. I had been doing a heavy powerlifting cycle of training for 6 weeks when the pains started out, so I thought it was that. I have since used lower resistance/higher reps but the pain is still persisting. Now I am wondering if it might be the HGH.
For those of you that have experienced the joint pain from HGH, what does it feel like? Right now it feels like I have petallar tendonitis in both knees and an irritated rotator cuff in my left shoulder. The knee pain is totally limited to the tendon. I have also read that HGH helps to heal connective tissues like tendons and ligaments, so maybe cutting back on the HGH isnt a good idea? ANyhow, I reduced my intake to 5IU/day now to see what happens.

[SPIKE]

There are a few variables here Maldorf. If I were you I'd take an entire week off lifting and continue the GH dose. If the pain persists then it most likely can be the GH. If the pain for the most part goes away then it may be your listing techniques. You can simply be lifting improperly or maybe even too heavy with not the best form causing these pains. If that doesnt work then continue to lift as you do and decrease the GH dose and work back up. No definite answer here, trial and error will hopefully get to the bottom of this one.

It doesn't seem like its the lifting b/c all these pains have appeared within the past month(s). Have you changed any listing techniques at all??

[Ufa]

I have been on HGH now, generics out of China, for about 2 months. Started out at 2 IU/day and worked up to 6IU/day now. I have been having pain in my knees and left shoulder. I cant decide if the pain is due to the HGH or just my insane lifting. I havent been getting any other possible side effects lately, but did have the numbness in my hands about 1 month ago but thats gone now. I had been doing a heavy powerlifting cycle of training for 6 weeks when the pains started out, so I thought it was that. I have since used lower resistance/higher reps but the pain is still persisting. Now I am wondering if it might be the HGH.
For those of you that have experienced the joint pain from HGH, what does it feel like? Right now it feels like I have petallar tendonitis in both knees and an irritated rotator cuff in my left shoulder. The knee pain is totally limited to the tendon. I have also read that HGH helps to heal connective tissues like tendons and ligaments, so maybe cutting back on the HGH isnt a good idea? ANyhow, I reduced my intake to 5IU/day now to see what happens.

Lower your dosage. Maybe 2iu's am & 2iu's afternoon. If you lower your dosage enough your sides will go away. Sides make life miserable. Ignore
posters that encourage extreme dosage. They either have bad stuff or
are promoters.

[SPIKE]

Ignore posters that encourage extreme dosage.

What do you consider and exterme dosage Ufa? Do you think 6iu ED is a bit extreme? What if the person is in their mid to late 20's? Would 6iu even suffice for quality LBM?

[Ufa]

What do you consider and exterme dosage Ufa? Do you think 6iu ED is a bit extreme? What if the person is in their mid to late 20's? Would 6iu even suffice for quality LBM?

I would think that an extreme dosage would be any dosage that causes
a 36 year old with experience (going from 4 iu's) to 6 iu's and then having
GH type sides. Extreme dosages in theory could be defined as any dosage
that exceedes what the Drug Company and the PDR recommends.

Concluding, an extreme dosage is going to be different for different health
and experienced users. AID's people use 18 iu's at a wack. The BW water
they use is for one time use only.

Personally I like (more) however when sides start creeping in I taper down
I just think it sucks (for me) to walk around with numb thumbs, ect.

With sides you know the stuff is working. Everyone agrees that it is a long
term situation (6 mo to a year) so why torture your self with professional
dosages. My opinion (works for me and I am happy with results)

I had two buldging disc's in lower back. (gone) I've been told (maybe B.S.ed)
that I look 20 years younger than I am.

I could go on longer but I am just one person who has only been taking Gh
for a little over a year. Good Luck!

[Maldorf]

There are a few variables here Maldorf. If I were you I'd take an entire week off lifting and continue the GH dose. If the pain persists then it most likely can be the GH. If the pain for the most part goes away then it may be your listing techniques. You can simply be lifting improperly or maybe even too heavy with not the best form causing these pains. If that doesnt work then continue to lift as you do and decrease the GH dose and work back up. No definite answer here, trial and error will hopefully get to the bottom of this one.

It doesn't seem like its the lifting b/c all these pains have appeared within the past month(s). Have you changed any listing techniques at all??

Yes, I went from a more typical bodybuilding routine to doing a dual factor 5x5 program which is more like powerlifting. I really think it was the heavy squats and bench/shoulder press that got me. I did this same lifting program once before and had great results though with no pain, only thing is I went on cycle midway into the 9 week routine. This time around I was off cycle the entire time doing PCT. Think I wont be doing that anytime soon again! Going to continue going lighter weight and doing exercises to work around the pain, hopefully that will help. Guess if that doesnt help then its the GH. Think I may continue with the 5IU/day for the remainder of this week, and then go back to 6IU/day once the pain is gone.

[SPIKE]

Extreme dosages in theory could be defined as any dosage
that exceedes what the Drug Company and the PDR recommends.

LOL, what does the PDR have to do with dosages of GH for BBers.

AID's people use 18 iu's at a wack. The BW water
they use is for one time use only.

It's not BW, it's sterile water for those reasons. Gensci is now making "user friendly" kits that contain 200iu and no water whatsoever. Geez I wonder who those are being marketed too .

I had two buldging disc's in lower back. (gone) I've been told (maybe B.S.ed) that I look 20 years younger than I am.

I have 2 herniated disc and can atttest that when I"m on GH they feel l10X better. Can't even tell that there's anything wrong.





I"m not breaking your balls Ufa. You know me and I"m never one to stick someone out. Bottom line is doses will vary on both results and sides with everyone. Thanks for your input, personal feedback is always my favorite.

[Maldorf]

Thanks for the input all. Many times with this type of thing all we have to go on is personal experience.