is antibody a side effect?

**epicmass** · 07-28-2006, 01:25 AM

why and how injection HGH can cause antibody, and how does the antibody work? is it a side effect?

**Seattle Junk** · 07-28-2006, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by epicmass

why and how injection HGH can cause antibody, and how does the antibody work? is it a side effect?

192AA GH has more of chance of causing antibodies. 191AA can too as well but very unlikely. Antibodies deactivate and render all GH (exongenous and natty) in your body useless. Not a side but a permanant change in your body which is not good. All the more reason to always use 191AA like jin or most of the American brands.

**POWWOW** · 07-28-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by epicmass

why and how injection HGH can cause antibody, and how does the antibody work? is it a side effect?

natural hGH are 191aa hGH, injecting 192aa hGH, your body will form antibodies against hGH and gradually stops your hGH from functioning.191 or
192, its a question

some blue tops low quality cheap hGH did not purify enough to save cost, they contain large amount of E.coli contaminations which will also raise large amount of antibodies to hGH

**Seattle Junk** · 07-30-2006, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by POWWOW

natural hGH are 191aa hGH, injecting 192aa hGH, your body will form antibodies against hGH and gradually stops your hGH from functioning.191 or
192, its a question

some blue tops low quality cheap hGH did not purify enough to save cost, they contain large amount of E.coli contaminations which will also raise large amount of antibodies to hGH

Please expand on your theory on ecoli contaniments and GH anitbodies.

**Ufa** · 07-30-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by POWWOW

natural hGH are 191aa hGH, injecting 192aa hGH, your body will form , they contain large amount of E.coli contaminations which will also raise large amount of antibodies to hGH

I'm confused about the excess E.coli.

**epicmass** · 08-03-2006, 08:00 AM

thank bros!
the red welts from brown tops gh scared me, so considering your reply, id like to switch back to Jin now.....

**POWWOW** · 08-04-2006, 05:12 AM

Bros, here is the theory about ecoli contaminants:

all the hGH we are using now are made by so called genetic engineering technology, in which hGH were actually produced by a special ecoli which when multiply, will produce a lot of hGH. the hGH produced by the ecoli bugs stays with all the ecoli proteins. in order to get pure hGH good for injecting to human body, biochemists have to purify hGH from ecoli and get rid of all the ecoli proteins associated with it. it is a complicated process and very costly. that's why all the hGH for injection are very expensive.

The key fact to remember is, the purer the hGH (supposed to be higher quality), the lower the yield of production would be, and therefore the higher the cost. An advice: don't try to get the cheapest hGH around! Almost for sure it means the quality is bad. Go get the most reputable one. I always stick to jintropin personally.

The ecoli contaminants, besides give you sides when injecting, will also help raise a lot of antibodies against hGH. These antibodies would gradually stops your hGH from functioning in your body in the long run.

**G-Force** · 08-04-2006, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by POWWOW

natural hGH are 191aa hGH, injecting 192aa hGH, your body will form antibodies against hGH and gradually stops your hGH from functioning.191 or
192, its a question

some blue tops low quality cheap hGH did not purify enough to save cost, they contain large amount of E.coli contaminations which will also raise large amount of antibodies to hGH

u sayin this will DEFINITELY happen?
to everyone using 192 AA?

**POWWOW** · 08-04-2006, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

u sayin this will DEFINITELY happen?
to everyone using 192 AA?

yes, definitely, that's why US FDA is banning 192 amino acid hGH now. also if you use low quality hGH for too long and raise too much antibody, then this would happen too.

**G-Force** · 08-07-2006, 02:03 AM

bump

i heard it was only a small percetage of people that developed these antibodies

i've got 700iu's of generic blue tops and have never got red welts - so have continued to use them

**G-Force** · 08-08-2006, 02:12 AM

BUMP BUMP BUMP

i dont believe that EVERYONE gets these antibodies

i believe just a percentage do - and a small percentage at that

can a mod/vet confirm this please

**rodge** · 08-08-2006, 08:12 AM

sorry i can't help you, it kinda confuses me too. maybe someone like redbaron could chime in.

either way i myself and my wife have switched bach from generic bluetops to jin's again.

-rodge

**G-Force** · 08-09-2006, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by rodge

sorry i can't help you, it kinda confuses me too. maybe someone like redbaron could chime in.

either way i myself and my wife have switched bach from generic bluetops to jin's again.

-rodge

havent seen redbaron around in a while?

unfortunatly i have a large stock of 192 and am understandabley concerned about these so called antibodies

i have just ordered some 191 - but only 150iu (all i can afford at the mo)

so will have a break from 192 and use 191 for a month or so - then get back on the 192 - hopefully this will help prevent any antibody build up and allow me to effectively finish my stock of 192?

???