igf-1 protocal

**Titan1** · 08-20-2006, 12:53 PM

what do you guys think about this protocal? isnt injecting 3x week to little?

have probably done more igf cycles than just about any guy here. I have tried every method possible and after doing all this research I have come to a few conclusions.

Igf does not need to be in high dosages. More is definitely not better. Igf is very synergistic when used in conjunction with androgens more so than anabolics. Igf has a very short half life, shorter than most initial studies show, new studies are more accurate.

I have done the standard 50-60mcg ed for 6 weeks. Tried a 12 week cycle. Did a 4 week on, 4 week off. Did really high doses at 200mcg per day. Tried high dose 3 times per week post workout, etc. As I said I have tried them all.

Here is what I have come up with based on my research and using my body as a guinee pig. Since igf has a very short half life, many injections are needed. Igf can saturate cells quickly, thereby necessitating an irregular schedule to prevent downregulation of the cells. Low doses work better.

Look at it this way, part of the reason gh works in an anabolic state is the small conversion to igf. This conversion is much smaller than the amounts we inject. Igf has a very small chain structure not unlike insulin . You can become resistant similar to insulin use, therefore, infrequent dosing is best.

Here is what I am currently doing and getting better results than my first igf cycle when I had virgin receptors. I am taking 60mcg per day spread out into 4 shots. I inject 2 muscle groups per day each side with 15mcg for a total of 60mcg for the day. I too, have noticed localized growth, whether it is anectodal or not. So I do 15mcg in one bicep before breakfast. 4 hours later I do the other bicep with 15mcg. 4 hours later I do a delt with 15mcg and then 4 hours after that I do my last inject with 15mcg in the other delt.

I only do this 3 times per week so I can keep my receptors fresh, prevent saturation and downregulation and optimize my dosages without needing to use ever increasing doses. I do 4 weeks on and 2 weeks off, though theoritically and I have yet to test this, I should be able to do at least a 20 week cycle because of the minimal downregulation.

I came up with this theory after talking to some pro's (some post here, you know who you are) and talking with other about insulin and minimal cycling theories about slin. Since igf is such a similar structure, following a less is more approach has brought on fantastic results.

Try it and let me know how well it works for you. I am always looking for more guinee pigs in my research studies.
AP

**Random** · 08-20-2006, 01:05 PM

Very interesting, if it works that would be great for those short on funds like myself!....good info, someones gotta do it!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 08-20-2006, 01:08 PM

very interesting post. I wil bear this in mind for next run of igf.

**ss01** · 08-20-2006, 04:23 PM

Ah, so nice and refreshing to someone doing some acutal experimentation rather than just going "more=better". Smarter == Better.

Glad to hear about the results, and looking forward to updates.

**llrockyll** · 08-20-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Titan1

what do you guys think about this protocal? isnt injecting 3x week to little?

have probably done more igf cycles than just about any guy here. I have tried every method possible and after doing all this research I have come to a few conclusions.

Igf does not need to be in high dosages. More is definitely not better. Igf is very synergistic when used in conjunction with androgens more so than anabolics. Igf has a very short half life, shorter than most initial studies show, new studies are more accurate.

I have done the standard 50-60mcg ed for 6 weeks. Tried a 12 week cycle. Did a 4 week on, 4 week off. Did really high doses at 200mcg per day. Tried high dose 3 times per week post workout, etc. As I said I have tried them all.

Here is what I have come up with based on my research and using my body as a guinee pig. Since igf has a very short half life, many injections are needed. Igf can saturate cells quickly, thereby necessitating an irregular schedule to prevent downregulation of the cells. Low doses work better.

Look at it this way, part of the reason gh works in an anabolic state is the small conversion to igf. This conversion is much smaller than the amounts we inject. Igf has a very small chain structure not unlike insulin . You can become resistant similar to insulin use, therefore, infrequent dosing is best.

Here is what I am currently doing and getting better results than my first igf cycle when I had virgin receptors. I am taking 60mcg per day spread out into 4 shots. I inject 2 muscle groups per day each side with 15mcg for a total of 60mcg for the day. I too, have noticed localized growth, whether it is anectodal or not. So I do 15mcg in one bicep before breakfast. 4 hours later I do the other bicep with 15mcg. 4 hours later I do a delt with 15mcg and then 4 hours after that I do my last inject with 15mcg in the other delt.

I only do this 3 times per week so I can keep my receptors fresh, prevent saturation and downregulation and optimize my dosages without needing to use ever increasing doses. I do 4 weeks on and 2 weeks off, though theoritically and I have yet to test this, I should be able to do at least a 20 week cycle because of the minimal downregulation.

I came up with this theory after talking to some pro's (some post here, you know who you are) and talking with other about insulin and minimal cycling theories about slin. Since igf is such a similar structure, following a less is more approach has brought on fantastic results.

Try it and let me know how well it works for you. I am always looking for more guinee pigs in my research studies.
AP

He's talking about rhIGF-1 not LR3 IGF-1