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    Sides are killing me !!

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    I have been on HGH for about about three months now. About three weeks ago I started doing the shots ED thats seven days a week at 3IU a day. Now in the last few days the swelling and numbness in my hands is really starting to get seriously annoying. Its been about five days. I can barely type this as a matter of fact. Should I reduce the dose or reduce the number of days ?

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    What kind of GH are you using? PM it to me Kale if you cant post it.

    How long have you been on the 3iu? What was your previous protocol before you started the ED injections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    What kind of GH are you using? PM it to me Kale if you cant post it.

    How long have you been on the 3iu? What was your previous protocol before you started the ED injections?
    Mate I am on Gensci Jinotropin. I was on 3 IU 5 on 2 off then about three weeks ago I went to 3IU ED. Its really only been a pain the last week. And it comes and goes, mainly frrst thing in the morning it really kills

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    Sorry to hear Kale. I am probably going to start GH at 6+iu ed. Now you're making me worry. Please keep us all posted on how you do with this bro.

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    Well, the sides get bad between three and four months. The swelling gets bad, just lower the dose to 2.5iu five days a week and raise it back up in a weeks to two weeks to 3ui for five days a week and then 3ui for 7 days and you should be fine. YOu can feel the swelling in your joints in your fingers when you make a fist. You just have to get past the fourth month and many of the sides will go away.

    My index fingers and thumbs were numb until 4.5 months. I lowered the dose from 4ui to 3ui for two weeks and when the swelling and numbness subsided slightly I went back up agian. I have been on Gensi Jino's now for ten months and I have not have any problems since the fourth month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkk
    Well, the sides get bad between three and four months. The swelling gets bad, just lower the dose to 2.5iu five days a week and raise it back up in a weeks to two weeks to 3ui for five days a week and then 3ui for 7 days and you should be fine. YOu can feel the swelling in your joints in your fingers when you make a fist. You just have to get past the fourth month and many of the sides will go away.

    My index fingers and thumbs were numb until 4.5 months. I lowered the dose from 4ui to 3ui for two weeks and when the swelling and numbness subsided slightly I went back up agian. I have been on Gensi Jino's now for ten months and I have not have any problems since the fourth month.
    Thanks dude, what you are describing is exactly what is happeing. I cant wear rings at the moment because they dont fit any more and when I make a fist I can feel the sweeling all through my hands. I will deal with it for a week more and see how it goes before backing of.. This shit is ripping me up so I dont want to go backwards..... (as his fingers go numb typing this ...)

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    I am getting similar sides, but I think it has made some of my tendons sore too. Ive been getting tendonitis more severe than normal and Ive been lifting lighter weights/higher reps too. Going to drop GH dose from 7IU/day down to 5IU/day. See how this goes. Ive been on for a bit over 3 months.
    Anyone else experience this pain in the tendons like this while using HGH? I thought it was supposed to help tendons heal by increasing collagen synthesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    I am getting similar sides, but I think it has made some of my tendons sore too. Ive been getting tendonitis more severe than normal and Ive been lifting lighter weights/higher reps too. Going to drop GH dose from 7IU/day down to 5IU/day. See how this goes. Ive been on for a bit over 3 months.
    Anyone else experience this pain in the tendons like this while using HGH? I thought it was supposed to help tendons heal by increasing collagen synthesis.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    I am getting similar sides, but I think it has made some of my tendons sore too. Ive been getting tendonitis more severe than normal and Ive been lifting lighter weights/higher reps too. Going to drop GH dose from 7IU/day down to 5IU/day. See how this goes. Ive been on for a bit over 3 months.
    Anyone else experience this pain in the tendons like this while using HGH? I thought it was supposed to help tendons heal by increasing collagen synthesis.
    Dude you started on 7IU ? Man thats a lot to start with !!!

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    Kale tell your girl to make it feel better

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceboxxx
    Kale tell your girl to make it feel better
    Dude, she is sitting on my lap right now. !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Dude, she is sitting on my lap right now. !!!!
    *drool* *drool*

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    i have same sides. I was running jins and moved to blue tops. Hurts to make fist especially in the AM. I have a numb middle finger. I have switched to 10iu EOD instead of 5ed to see if that helps. ill keep you posted.

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    Kale why dnot you just drop back to the 5/2 protocol? From there you can step up to 6/1 and see how you feel..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    I am getting similar sides, but I think it has made some of my tendons sore too. Ive been getting tendonitis more severe than normal and Ive been lifting lighter weights/higher reps too. Going to drop GH dose from 7IU/day down to 5IU/day. See how this goes. Ive been on for a bit over 3 months.
    Anyone else experience this pain in the tendons like this while using HGH? I thought it was supposed to help tendons heal by increasing collagen synthesis.
    I definitely am having a similar experience. I'm running 4iu ED brown tops, and elbows and knees feel sore/achy. I've been on about 4 months, and I believe the sore tendons/joints are slowly getting better. Oh, I almost forgot my wrists are the worst, from months 2-3 they were really trashed, now they're only slightly trashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Dude you started on 7IU ? Man thats a lot to start with !!!
    No, I started out at only 2IU/day 5on/2off and have worked up to 7IU 5on/2 off. Ive had to drop down a couple of times already, and have just recently worked up to 7IU. Guess I am rushing it a bit and need to give it more time and ramp up much slower. Hoping these tendons feel better by the end of this week, so about 7 days. How long should I expect the these sides to take to go down? The tendon pain has been around for awhile now, I originally attributed it to my training but now since ive been training lighter it cant be that. My petellar tendons are killing me so now that I am taking a week off from training quads. Thinking I might even need to go back down to 4IU/day, but will try 5 first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Mate I am on Gensci Jinotropin. I was on 3 IU 5 on 2 off then about three weeks ago I went to 3IU ED. Its really only been a pain the last week. And it comes and goes, mainly frrst thing in the morning it really kills
    I have been on a bit more than a month now, but I don't think I have any sides yet. My left wrist hurts a lot but I think I strained it lifting. I gotta work out with a wrist brace now.

    But if the sides don't go away soon, I would suggest going to 2iu 5/2 and see if they ease up. I don't think there are too many (maybe none) rigorous scientific studies that look at HGH use by folks like us. We are our own test subjects. Keep making modifications until you find what works best for you.

    Wish you all the best in solving this problem.

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    I run into the same type of sides whenever I switch up my dosage. I am a believer in changing up dosage every few months...whether it be up or down, just some change. Believe it or not, whether I go up or down I get more sides when I switch. I usually just tough it out and it gets better, but as was suggested above you could either cut your dosage back and slowly try and bump it back up and keep your current schedule or drop a day or two and slowly try and add those days back in to your regimine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Guys

    I have been on HGH for about about three months now. About three weeks ago I started doing the shots ED thats seven days a week at 3IU a day. Now in the last few days the swelling and numbness in my hands is really starting to get seriously annoying. Its been about five days. I can barely type this as a matter of fact. Should I reduce the dose or reduce the number of days ?
    I think you should try EOD. Split into am and afternoon. Sounds like
    you got some good stuff.

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    Thanks for all the advice guys. I am having a couple of days off. I will go back to 5 on 2 off. I didnt shoot yesterday. Its is 4 am tight now and I am up because of the pain !!!!

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    I'm starting to ramp up right now,but from 2iu ed,5/7. I'm thinking of going up .2iu a week,that would take 5 weeks to get up to the 3iu ed,5/7 I'm looking towards. Any thoughts, and thanks for this kind of thread.

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    i been on the growth for about 11 months now 7 days a week except when i beat a man up and had to sit in the pokie a week doing 6iu and 8 iu did 10iu got expensice i tell u everything hurts me fingers wrists shoulders and my ****in knees hurt so bad i cant hump 10 times a day anymore for me it seems to go away when im at the gym also having my mrs. massage me every night and in morning i do it my self how bout those ****in night sweats??? i take 3 injections daily like 3 hours apart split them up maybe

    yesterday was my first experince with insulin now thats a scary shit its swap gh pain for for low bloodsugar and pay the man 50
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    Well this is day three with no hgh and the numbness and tingling ius still just as bad. It seems to come and go in waves. The pain isnt as bad, I have had one real bad pain episode about 12 hours ago when I got up but nothing real bad since. I am sitting on a plane right now between Singapore and Sydney and the tingling and numbness is driving me nuts.

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    Kale, if it carrys on go with EOD shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Kale, if it carrys on go with EOD shots
    Thanks Markus, funny thing is I was fine until I went to seven day shots then it took two weeks to hit me. Do you reckon I should stay off all together till this subsides or persavere with EOD shots at 2IU instead of 3IU ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Thanks Markus, funny thing is I was fine until I went to seven day shots then it took two weeks to hit me. Do you reckon I should stay off all together till this subsides or persavere with EOD shots at 2IU instead of 3IU ?
    Kake go down to 2 iu's. M W F and take weekends off till your body
    gets used to this. I think you just started with to much. The sides
    just are not worth it. With sides you know it's doing it's job. No need
    to over do it. If you are in it for the long haul it does not matter if
    you slow down. When I first started my HRT clinic wanted me to start
    with 1 iu. (one) then 1.5 iu. then 2 iu. The Doc knew what they were
    talking about cause the Doc and his wife were both taking GH.

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    hey Kale, 5 days on and 2 days off is the best way to avoid sides IMO, remember jin is overdosed, i ran serostim @ 4iu and jin @ 2, sero is the s*** jin was pretty comparable and i always run 5 days on 2 days off, FWIW

    strongmann

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Thanks Markus, funny thing is I was fine until I went to seven day shots then it took two weeks to hit me. Do you reckon I should stay off all together till this subsides or persavere with EOD shots at 2IU instead of 3IU ?
    no dont stay off carry on eod at 3ius first and if they dont subside go for 2ius, but am sure they will be fine with this method at eod 3ius.

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    Guys I have been off for five days now and the symptoms of Carpal Tunnel are worse than ever. I cant sleep. How long does it take for these sypmtoms to go away ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Guys I have been off for five days now and the symptoms of Carpal Tunnel are worse than ever. I cant sleep. How long does it take for these sypmtoms to go away ?
    Can't exactly say however, the slip sheet and the PDR state that after
    you discontinue thing should go back to normal.

    The growt hormone will be out of your system in a few hours but the
    IGF-1 will stick around several days. I've had blood work done 3 full
    days after GH shot and IGF levels were still out of range. Hopefully,
    you will feel better by the time you read this.

    Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufa
    Can't exactly say however, the slip sheet and the PDR state that after
    you discontinue thing should go back to normal.

    The growt hormone will be out of your system in a few hours but the
    IGF-1 will stick around several days. I've had blood work done 3 full
    days after GH shot and IGF levels were still out of range. Hopefully,
    you will feel better by the time you read this.

    Take care.
    Mate its 2.15 am here and I am definitly not feeling better. What are the chance of this being permanent.? I thought after 5 days the symptoms should be almost gone and I cant sleep due to the numbness and pain. I am even having trouble typing this mesage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Guys I have been off for five days now and the symptoms of Carpal Tunnel are worse than ever. I cant sleep. How long does it take for these sypmtoms to go away ?

    It should have gone away within a day of dropping the dose or terminating the GH. Are you taking any other AAS? Something that promotes water retention?

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    Well I am on 100mg Test E permanently but I am also taking Arimidex so there is almost zero chance of water retntion due to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Mate its 2.15 am here and I am definitly not feeling better. What are the chance of this being permanent.? I thought after 5 days the symptoms should be almost gone and I cant sleep due to the numbness and pain. I am even having trouble typing this mesage
    That sucks! All I can do is some research for you. Are you doing
    any thing else that will cause water retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Well I am on 100mg Test E permanently but I am also taking Arimidex so there is almost zero chance of water retntion due to that
    This may sound weird, but try to put your hands into cold water or iced water for a minute and see how it feels.

    Knight1811

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    I have done the cold water thing and it doesnt help. I am going to buy some B6 in the morning and see if that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Mate its 2.15 am here and I am definitly not feeling better. What are the chance of this being permanent.? I thought after 5 days the symptoms should be almost gone and I cant sleep due to the numbness and pain. I am even having trouble typing this mesage
    I was having pain in my hands and tendons at 7IU/day and dropped it to 5IU/day this week. Im running it 5on/2off. My sides are still present now, but have subsided in level. I think after taking this weekend off I should feel pretty good on monday. Does seem to take awhile for these sides to go away.

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    Kale, i feel for you hopefully this subsides soon.

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    tendons hurt cuz theyre growing.

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    sorry to hear all this kale. I am on 6iu's ED and so far only slight joint stiffness in my hands but nothing as bad as you are describing. Hope it clears up quick for you bro!!

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