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08-26-2006, 04:46 PM #1
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Sides are killing me !!
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I have been on HGH for about about three months now. About three weeks ago I started doing the shots ED thats seven days a week at 3IU a day. Now in the last few days the swelling and numbness in my hands is really starting to get seriously annoying. Its been about five days. I can barely type this as a matter of fact. Should I reduce the dose or reduce the number of days ?
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08-26-2006, 05:59 PM #2
What kind of GH are you using? PM it to me Kale if you cant post it.
How long have you been on the 3iu? What was your previous protocol before you started the ED injections?
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08-26-2006, 08:32 PM #3
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Originally Posted by Jayhova
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08-26-2006, 08:48 PM #4
Sorry to hear Kale. I am probably going to start GH at 6+iu ed. Now you're making me worry. Please keep us all posted on how you do with this bro.
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08-26-2006, 09:47 PM #5
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Well, the sides get bad between three and four months. The swelling gets bad, just lower the dose to 2.5iu five days a week and raise it back up in a weeks to two weeks to 3ui for five days a week and then 3ui for 7 days and you should be fine. YOu can feel the swelling in your joints in your fingers when you make a fist. You just have to get past the fourth month and many of the sides will go away.
My index fingers and thumbs were numb until 4.5 months. I lowered the dose from 4ui to 3ui for two weeks and when the swelling and numbness subsided slightly I went back up agian. I have been on Gensi Jino's now for ten months and I have not have any problems since the fourth month.
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08-26-2006, 10:11 PM #6
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Originally Posted by Clarkk
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08-26-2006, 10:31 PM #7
I am getting similar sides, but I think it has made some of my tendons sore too. Ive been getting tendonitis more severe than normal and Ive been lifting lighter weights/higher reps too. Going to drop GH dose from 7IU/day down to 5IU/day. See how this goes. Ive been on for a bit over 3 months.
Anyone else experience this pain in the tendons like this while using HGH? I thought it was supposed to help tendons heal by increasing collagen synthesis.
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08-26-2006, 11:23 PM #8
Originally Posted by Maldorf
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08-27-2006, 06:20 AM #9
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Originally Posted by Maldorf
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08-27-2006, 06:33 AM #10
Kale tell your girl to make it feel better
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08-27-2006, 06:36 AM #11
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Originally Posted by juiceboxxx
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08-27-2006, 06:38 AM #12
Originally Posted by Kale
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08-27-2006, 10:15 AM #13
i have same sides. I was running jins and moved to blue tops. Hurts to make fist especially in the AM. I have a numb middle finger. I have switched to 10iu EOD instead of 5ed to see if that helps. ill keep you posted.
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08-27-2006, 10:46 AM #14
Kale why dnot you just drop back to the 5/2 protocol? From there you can step up to 6/1 and see how you feel..
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08-27-2006, 12:23 PM #15
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Originally Posted by Maldorf
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08-27-2006, 02:45 PM #16
Originally Posted by Kale
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08-27-2006, 06:45 PM #17
Originally Posted by Kale
But if the sides don't go away soon, I would suggest going to 2iu 5/2 and see if they ease up. I don't think there are too many (maybe none) rigorous scientific studies that look at HGH use by folks like us. We are our own test subjects. Keep making modifications until you find what works best for you.
Wish you all the best in solving this problem.
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08-28-2006, 12:15 AM #18
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I run into the same type of sides whenever I switch up my dosage. I am a believer in changing up dosage every few months...whether it be up or down, just some change. Believe it or not, whether I go up or down I get more sides when I switch. I usually just tough it out and it gets better, but as was suggested above you could either cut your dosage back and slowly try and bump it back up and keep your current schedule or drop a day or two and slowly try and add those days back in to your regimine.
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08-28-2006, 08:16 AM #19
Originally Posted by Kale
you got some good stuff.
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08-28-2006, 03:01 PM #20
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I am having a couple of days off. I will go back to 5 on 2 off. I didnt shoot yesterday. Its is 4 am tight now and I am up because of the pain !!!!
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08-29-2006, 10:59 AM #21
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I'm starting to ramp up right now,but from 2iu ed,5/7. I'm thinking of going up .2iu a week,that would take 5 weeks to get up to the 3iu ed,5/7 I'm looking towards. Any thoughts, and thanks for this kind of thread.
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08-30-2006, 01:51 AM #22
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i been on the growth for about 11 months now 7 days a week except when i beat a man up and had to sit in the pokie a week doing 6iu and 8 iu did 10iu got expensice i tell u everything hurts me fingers wrists shoulders and my ****in knees hurt so bad i cant hump 10 times a day anymore for me it seems to go away when im at the gym also having my mrs. massage me every night and in morning i do it my self how bout those ****in night sweats??? i take 3 injections daily like 3 hours apart split them up maybe
yesterday was my first experince with insulin now thats a scary shit its swap gh pain for for low bloodsugar and pay the man 50Last edited by component_th; 08-30-2006 at 01:54 AM.
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08-30-2006, 08:06 AM #23
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Well this is day three with no hgh and the numbness and tingling ius still just as bad. It seems to come and go in waves. The pain isnt as bad, I have had one real bad pain episode about 12 hours ago when I got up but nothing real bad since. I am sitting on a plane right now between Singapore and Sydney and the tingling and numbness is driving me nuts.
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08-30-2006, 08:11 AM #24
Kale, if it carrys on go with EOD shots
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08-30-2006, 08:43 AM #25
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Originally Posted by marcus300
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08-30-2006, 09:02 AM #26
Originally Posted by Kale
gets used to this. I think you just started with to much. The sides
just are not worth it. With sides you know it's doing it's job. No need
to over do it. If you are in it for the long haul it does not matter if
you slow down. When I first started my HRT clinic wanted me to start
with 1 iu. (one) then 1.5 iu. then 2 iu. The Doc knew what they were
talking about cause the Doc and his wife were both taking GH.
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08-30-2006, 09:56 AM #27
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hey Kale, 5 days on and 2 days off is the best way to avoid sides IMO, remember jin is overdosed, i ran serostim @ 4iu and jin @ 2, sero is the s*** jin was pretty comparable and i always run 5 days on 2 days off, FWIW
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08-30-2006, 02:16 PM #28
Originally Posted by Kale
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09-01-2006, 10:19 AM #29
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Guys I have been off for five days now and the symptoms of Carpal Tunnel are worse than ever. I cant sleep. How long does it take for these sypmtoms to go away ?
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09-01-2006, 10:30 AM #30
Originally Posted by Kale
you discontinue thing should go back to normal.
The growt hormone will be out of your system in a few hours but the
IGF-1 will stick around several days. I've had blood work done 3 full
days after GH shot and IGF levels were still out of range. Hopefully,
you will feel better by the time you read this.
Take care.
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09-01-2006, 10:34 AM #31
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Originally Posted by Ufa
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09-01-2006, 10:35 AM #32
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Originally Posted by Kale
It should have gone away within a day of dropping the dose or terminating the GH. Are you taking any other AAS? Something that promotes water retention?
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09-01-2006, 10:38 AM #33
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Well I am on 100mg Test E permanently but I am also taking Arimidex so there is almost zero chance of water retntion due to that
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09-01-2006, 10:40 AM #34
Originally Posted by Kale
any thing else that will cause water retention.
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09-01-2006, 10:42 AM #35
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Originally Posted by Kale
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09-01-2006, 10:50 AM #36
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I have done the cold water thing and it doesnt help. I am going to buy some B6 in the morning and see if that helps
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09-01-2006, 12:02 PM #37
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09-01-2006, 12:13 PM #38
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Kale, i feel for you hopefully this subsides soon.
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09-01-2006, 09:41 PM #39
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tendons hurt cuz theyre growing.
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09-01-2006, 09:48 PM #40
sorry to hear all this kale. I am on 6iu's ED and so far only slight joint stiffness in my hands but nothing as bad as you are describing. Hope it clears up quick for you bro!!
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