Reconstituting HGH with B12?

**smokethedays** · 09-20-2006, 06:53 PM

Can i do that or it has to be BW? or mixing both in one syringe? thanx

**smokethedays** · 09-20-2006, 11:53 PM

bump anyone?

**G Child** · 09-21-2006, 12:14 AM

yes you can mix it with b12, it doesn't have to be BW

**bishop23** · 09-21-2006, 09:03 PM

You can reconstitute with ONLY baceterio static H2O 0.9% will ensure the sterility of the powder once mixed in the ampule and since the drug is very sensitive to bacteria. The actule compound of Human Growth Hormone 191aa has a bioavailabity of 98.8% when reconstituted with BW0.9. I dind't know that until 10 minutes ago, but my co-worker is an Endocrinologist and has written several publications on Anti-Aging and HGH, HRT, ProGest, Estrogen Replacement, Test Replacement, Glandular Release are his specialities and he is actually going to join our board tonight - I don't know what his handle will be, but he wants to start helping with education on these subjects b/c of the misinformation being circulated out there. IMO, Human Growth Hormone, when properly supervised at low dosages, is the greatest advancement in medical technology for anti-aging, life extension, and overall health.

For instance, my significant other only uses .4iu EOD, and takes off one week every 3 months, and one month every 9 months, and 6 months off every two years (there is a great study on this I will have him post that was in Popular Science and referenced in 60 minutes web page after the controversial piece on HRT). She is in her thirties and looks unbelievable after using this for only 2.5 years. He just told me to say every 70 months she will take off an entire year but INTERMIDENTLY use 1 iu every week during that timeframe.

I will post more but I have to go take care of a case study we are doing together for my thesis (in med school now).

**G Child** · 09-21-2006, 10:21 PM

crazy - i've got a good frined that's been on gh for the past 5 years and has always used b12.

**bishop23** · 09-21-2006, 11:40 PM

No, you can't. Absolutely not. You will still receive Recomb HGH - rDNA introduced into your system via subQ injection, but if I ran an absorption exercise by utilizing bloodwork I can almost say with certainty your friend is only receiving minimal amounts of beneficial and synthetic HGH into his system. You see, biochemically, rDNA HGH is designed by a chemical architecture that mimics the exact glandular structure as your own body's release of this horome. The only and to reiterate, ONLY WAY to help your body esterfication and introduction into your PC microcellular stream is via HGH combined with a synthetic pathway through H20 that must be sterilized and oxygenized with a regulation of O. The 0.9% has proven to be barometer for sterilzation and dilution within many medicine introduction via subQ (HGH) and IV.

You must first understand that b12, although a pathogen-free vitamin created for deficient patients only acts as a catalyst for a specific health benefit. B12 can have drastic improvements on one's health if administered correctly, but just because it is, shall we say, WET, and combined itself with a preserved value of H20 YOU CANNOT USE THIS AS THE SOLVENT! Sanitary, of course, but the HGH molecular chain is activated by the directive molecule in Water with sterile concentrate at < 25% and pH value of < 8 whereby pH B12 (Wyeth, Merck, gV = 7). There is no biochemistry between the two (2) compounds. There is simply a medication (rDNA HGH and a sterile water with a specific pH to activate the ingredient - HGH). Mathematically, mixing the HGH will have no effect.

HGH as well as most recomb.-dependent medications are sensitive molecularly (That is why you must not shake them even post Reconstitution b/c you can permanently disturb the chain-relationships). If you buy your HGH at a pharmacy, watch as they are so careful to explain every aspect of reconstitution since the expensive forumla depends on an exact ratio as well as handling.

I am joining this site tonite because there is too many people who have no knowledge or read something in a steroid guide. I come from a place where math meets science meets health meets chemistry. This makes me angry because it gives the discipline of Endocrinology a horrible name via negative results. B12 as a constituent will not complete a simple formula and your friend has wasted his money as there has been little, if NO, benefits since his usage began. I am not saying you conducted a double-blinded placebo to calculate the results, but if you spoke to ANY ENDO MD anywhere in the world, you would be considered a dangerous provider of information.

ps: I temp. hijacked my assistant's computer after reading this reply...Best regards, Dr. HB

(I will set up my own account now so I can participate in these discussions). I a not insulting you lad, I am fixing your problems.

**G Child** · 09-22-2006, 12:13 AM

good info - i told my buddy tonight that he should use bw.

**smokethedays** · 09-22-2006, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by bishop23

You can reconstitute with ONLY baceterio static H2O 0.9% will ensure the sterility of the powder once mixed in the ampule and since the drug is very sensitive to bacteria. The actule compound of Human Growth Hormone 191aa has a bioavailabity of 98.8% when reconstituted with BW0.9. I dind't know that until 10 minutes ago, but my co-worker is an Endocrinologist and has written several publications on Anti-Aging and HGH, HRT, ProGest, Estrogen Replacement, Test Replacement, Glandular Release are his specialities and he is actually going to join our board tonight - I don't know what his handle will be, but he wants to start helping with education on these subjects b/c of the misinformation being circulated out there. IMO, Human Growth Hormone, when properly supervised at low dosages, is the greatest advancement in medical technology for anti-aging, life extension, and overall health.

For instance, my significant other only uses .4iu EOD, and takes off one week every 3 months, and one month every 9 months, and 6 months off every two years (there is a great study on this I will have him post that was in Popular Science and referenced in 60 minutes web page after the controversial piece on HRT). She is in her thirties and looks unbelievable after using this for only 2.5 years. He just told me to say every 70 months she will take off an entire year but INTERMIDENTLY use 1 iu every week during that timeframe.

I will post more but I have to go take care of a case study we are doing together for my thesis (in med school now).

i do have 1 ml of the solution that comes with the HGH powder itself. but the problem is each 1 ml of solvent is to be used on 18 IU so to take 1 IU is going to be a very small amount about .055 ml (up to number 5.5 on the slin syringe.

**thunderin** · 09-22-2006, 04:09 AM

Not sure about B12, but I am sure that you can reconstitute hgh with a sterile NaCl solution found in most IV units. I have been doing this for over 2 years, though it does thicken up a bit after refrigeration.

**bishop23** · 09-22-2006, 05:37 PM

Okay, how about you just use the BW 0.9% that comes with the ****ing kit? If you are buying UG HGH, be real careful - a lot of it just HCG (Best way to tell, buy a home pregnancy test I AM SERIOUS - then take 10iu in one day and take the test (the home pregnancy test is detecting higher elevated levels of HCG) - it will be positive if your HGH is real. That is not a wive's tale, it is listed in Anabolics 2006 and a few other places as well - I have tried it and it works (but I only use Jintropin).

**barondumonde** · 02-11-2008, 06:31 PM

Good Post To Bump

**HURRICANE3500** · 02-11-2008, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by bishop23

No, you can't. Absolutely not. You will still receive Recomb HGH - rDNA introduced into your system via subQ injection, but if I ran an absorption exercise by utilizing bloodwork I can almost say with certainty your friend is only receiving minimal amounts of beneficial and synthetic HGH into his system. You see, biochemically, rDNA HGH is designed by a chemical architecture that mimics the exact glandular structure as your own body's release of this horome. The only and to reiterate, ONLY WAY to help your body esterfication and introduction into your PC microcellular stream is via HGH combined with a synthetic pathway through H20 that must be sterilized and oxygenized with a regulation of O. The 0.9% has proven to be barometer for sterilzation and dilution within many medicine introduction via subQ (HGH) and IV.

You must first understand that b12, although a pathogen-free vitamin created for deficient patients only acts as a catalyst for a specific health benefit. B12 can have drastic improvements on one's health if administered correctly, but just because it is, shall we say, WET, and combined itself with a preserved value of H20 YOU CANNOT USE THIS AS THE SOLVENT! Sanitary, of course, but the HGH molecular chain is activated by the directive molecule in Water with sterile concentrate at < 25% and pH value of < 8 whereby pH B12 (Wyeth, Merck, gV = 7). There is no biochemistry between the two (2) compounds. There is simply a medication (rDNA HGH and a sterile water with a specific pH to activate the ingredient - HGH). Mathematically, mixing the HGH will have no effect.

HGH as well as most recomb.-dependent medications are sensitive molecularly (That is why you must not shake them even post Reconstitution b/c you can permanently disturb the chain-relationships). If you buy your HGH at a pharmacy, watch as they are so careful to explain every aspect of reconstitution since the expensive forumla depends on an exact ratio as well as handling.

I am joining this site tonite because there is too many people who have no knowledge or read something in a steroid guide. I come from a place where math meets science meets health meets chemistry. This makes me angry because it gives the discipline of Endocrinology a horrible name via negative results. B12 as a constituent will not complete a simple formula and your friend has wasted his money as there has been little, if NO, benefits since his usage began. I am not saying you conducted a double-blinded placebo to calculate the results, but if you spoke to ANY ENDO MD anywhere in the world, you would be considered a dangerous provider of information.

ps: I temp. hijacked my assistant's computer after reading this reply...Best regards, Dr. HB

(I will set up my own account now so I can participate in these discussions). I a not insulting you lad, I am fixing your problems.

good stuff bro .. interested in learning more bout the heath benifits at low doses .. im on 3ius a day right now for over a month ..have noticed more of the bad sides then good effects .. aka carpet tunnel , tired, bloat .. do notice wrinkes around the under eye area goin anway bout it

**Mooseman33** · 02-12-2008, 06:03 PM

G-Child, is the only reason u said that u could make the mix was that your friend does it?
dont want to be a dick but what the hell is that, i mean if u dont no the answer and thats now made apparent why give bad information?

To much of that going on here...
dont take offense