The right timing of HGH and insulin? Which protocol is efficient and safe?

[dr. livingstone]

There seem to be a lot of opinions about the right timing of HGH and insulin. So which protocol is safe and creates the maximal anabolic response?

That there are very different opinions about the correct protocol is illustrated by the following two examples:

"...as far as GH and insulin goes I believe that the two should be taken so that their blood levels peak at the same time. So take Humulin-R and then a half hour later take GH. Obviously take these around meal times. Food, insulin, GH, these will all work together to stimulate IGF-1 production in the liver." (Pat Arnold)

and

"The timing of GH and insulin injections is critical. If insulin is injected before the GH, your pancreas will stop release of insulin monitoring due to the exogenous source. GH when injected will mobilize stored glycogen release which will turn into glucose for energy. This will cause a rapid rise in blood sugar levels that will not shut down or stop rising due to the feedback loop being momentarily cut off. You will go hyperglycemic and end up in the hospital. You must first inject your GH, then the insulin; this will cause a rise in glucose release by the GH and will be controlled and shuttled into muscle tissue for repair by the later injection of insulin."(from other forum)

[dr. livingstone]

Has anyone measured their bloodsugar level after the use of insulin and/or HGH ? Is there a big difference between the 2 protocols (insulin before or after HGH) ?

[BlInDsIdE]

bump 4 more info- i plan on using insulin pwo with 3-4 ius of gh.

[rodge]

i shoot them both pwo, slin IM and the hgh subq.

but i also have done them both IM, no difference imo.

or when cardio performed after weigts, i shot hgh subq after weights, then cardio, after cardio slin IM with pwo shake.

not much difference in all these protocols imo.

-rodge