Help Reconstituting Lions IGF-LR3

**pit_bully** · 11-13-2006, 06:35 PM

Guys I just got Lions IGF-LR3 and am confused with the instructions included. BTW the kit contains one (1) vial with the IFG powder and two (2) plastic twist top vials containing 3ml 0.90 Sodioum Chloride solution.

These are the instructions that came with the kit. Word for Word.

1. Draw 1mL solution and discard.
2.Use 2-3 ml water solution (only use water supplied) and measure vial dose accordingly. Continue to add the remaining solution.
3. DO NOT use benzyl alcohol (BA) or any other water to dilute.
4. Each vial will yield 1000mcgs (1mg) of IGF per vial. This yeilds 5mL @ 200 mcg/mL.
5. Inject water solution slowly-down the side of the vial DO NOT force.
6. Then slowly and gently twirl vial to mix solution. Allow solution to fully dissolve before commencing injections.
7. ONLY Inject via deep intramuscular (shoulders). Massage the injection area after each shot to allow for full absorbstion.
8. ONLY use insulin /diabetic needles.
9. Practice sterile injection procedures at ALL TIMES. Always swab both the top of vial and the local injection area before every injection.
10. MUST keep refridgerated VERY COLD at ALL TIMES once reconstituted (diluted).
11. Store at JUST above freezing temperature. DO NOT FREEZE.
12. Best temperature is just above 0 degrees Celsius.
13. Once reconstituted is stable at up to 8-12 weeks refridgerated very cold AT ALL TIMES (just above freezing temp).
14. Is stable at room temp in its dry state (before diluting) during shipping, due to this unique stability formula.

I dont undrestand 1. Draw 1mL solution and discard. Draw and discard where? Throw away? What solution? Sodium Chloride?
2.Use 2-3 ml water solution (only use water supplied) and measure vial dose accordingly. Continue to add the remaining solution.
Where is this water solution? The Sodium Chloride? I wasnt provided any water solution that I know of unless sodium chloride is water solution.
on these two instructions 7. ONLY Inject via deep intramuscular (shoulders). Massage the injection area after each shot to allow for full absorbstion.
8. ONLY use insulin/diabetic needles.
How do you go DEEP IM with 1/2 slin pins

Can someone please shed some light on this. Do I need to order Bacteriostatic Water?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-13-2006, 07:06 PM

This seems pretty wierd. I have ordered off Lion and his IGF normally ships with 1 powder and 1 10ml sodium chloride. Instructions with mine are to mix full 10ml of sodium chloride in with powder and swirl. Then shoot IM with slin pin (yes you can unless you are fattybombatty). With the 10ml solution it measures out dosage correctly on a u100 pin i.e. 10iu = 10mcg and so on.
If I had what you had there I would either draw 1ml and mix that then 1 tick on a slin pin = 10mcg, due to the smalll ammount drawn up you can draw up some sterile water or bac water to make it easier to shoot. option 2 is buy some more sodium chloride so you have the full 10ml.

**pimpdawgin** · 11-13-2006, 07:11 PM

Um, I think that the NaCl is not used to reconstitute, but to add to the syringe so that the injection doesn't sting.

**pit_bully** · 11-13-2006, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

If I had what you had there I would either draw 1ml and mix that then 1 tick on a slin pin = 10mcg, due to the smalll ammount drawn up you can draw up some sterile water or bac water to make it easier to shoot. option 2 is buy some more sodium chloride so you have the full 10ml.

Beast. I was sent 2 3mL plastic bottle of Sodium Chloride with each 1000mcg vial of IGF,so I have 6mL total of sodium chloride for each 1000mcg vial of igf. So according to your instructions it say to mix the sodium chloride with the igf? I just dont want to mess up the igf cause I def cant afford to replace it. If I mix the 6mL to the 1000mcg and somehow manage to figure out how many mcg per tick would it be possible to draw some injectable B-12 to cut the sting that from what I read it will have? Or is the sting not that bad from the sodium chloride?

Ive read vinager, AA, BW, BA etc. I dont even know what half this crap is. All I know is Lion shipped 6mL Sodium Chloride with each 1000mcg vial. What options do I have here?

**pit_bully** · 11-13-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by pimpdawgin

Um, I think that the NaCl is not used to reconstitute, but to add to the syringe so that the injection doesn't sting.

What is NaCI? is that 0.90% Sodium Chloride? Cause thats what I got with the vial of IGF.

**pit_bully** · 11-13-2006, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

Then shoot IM with slin pin (yes you can unless you are fattybombatty).

Yeahits just that the instructions said ONLY inject deep intramuscular. I just didnt think a slin pin would justify what I would consider to be deep IM

**RUI-Products** · 11-14-2006, 03:50 PM

The 10 ml water we usually ship is on back order. We are shipping water for a 5ml solution. You are discarding the 1ml because you won't be using it. Thats all.

**pit_bully** · 11-14-2006, 05:21 PM

Thanx I did figure it out after Beast told me his instructions. Thanx though. BTW I ordered over the holiday weekend and you had it to me on Monday. Excellent shipping as usual. Thnx

**silverback300lbs** · 12-24-2006, 06:06 PM

Pit Bully
I Orderd The Igf-1 From Lion And It Came Just Like Yours Did. Two Pink Plastic Containers Of Sodium Chloride And One Glass Vile Of Igf-1-nothing Else. Did You Just Add The Sodium Chloride To The Glass Vile Of Igf-1?

**ionakid13** · 12-29-2006, 12:35 PM

Pit bully,

I renconstructed my IGF-1 but left it at room temp for 2 days before putting it in the refrigerator...could it have gone bad?? will it still work? please let me know

**pit_bully** · 12-30-2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by silverback300lbs

Pit Bully
I Orderd The Igf-1 From Lion And It Came Just Like Yours Did. Two Pink Plastic Containers Of Sodium Chloride And One Glass Vile Of Igf-1-nothing Else. Did You Just Add The Sodium Chloride To The Glass Vile Of Igf-1?

Yes I just added the water from the pink tubes. It must of worked cause it leaned me out a lot. I didnt notice anything different from the pumps like everyone says, but I def leaned out with it. I will def run it again.

**pit_bully** · 12-30-2006, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by ionakid13

Pit bully,

I renconstructed my IGF-1 but left it at room temp for 2 days before putting it in the refrigerator...could it have gone bad?? will it still work? please let me know

I wouldnt know if it damaged it or not. I know its suposed to be kept cold, but I have read where others say it loses minimal potency. Id bet its still fine, but keep it cold to be safe.