Insulin Legal Over-the-counter?

**BigLittleTim** · 11-20-2006, 08:40 AM

Conflicting information about the availability of insulin over-the-counter at the corner pharmacy. Is it legal across the board, or on a state-by-state basis?

Don't want to just walk in and ask the seventy year-old pharmacist. I feel like a kid buying his first condom!

-BigLittleTim
Massachusetts

**BigLittleTim** · 11-20-2006, 05:51 PM

Does anyone on the board, who lives in the United States, just walk into a pharmacy and pick up a week's supply of Insulin ?

-BigLittleTim

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-20-2006, 06:06 PM

Humulin R is available throughout US I believe, other types are all script only.

**Gear** · 11-20-2006, 07:43 PM

I'm sure you would know someone that is diabetic. FInd them and rade their fridge.

-Gear

**InfinitiM45** · 11-20-2006, 09:38 PM

i tried calling a pharmacy here in US and they need script

**C_Bino** · 11-20-2006, 09:48 PM

Im pretty sure you need a script in the states. I live in Canada so I can just walk in and grab it.

**RUI-Products** · 11-21-2006, 01:43 AM

No you don't. He is right. humalin R is over the counter. You need a script for Humalog. R is much harder to use safely. Log is cake. Remember they can both Kill you. Stick to the safety of peptides.

**Growingpains** · 11-21-2006, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Lion

No you don't. He is right. humalin R is over the counter. You need a script for Humalog. R is much harder to use safely. Log is cake. Remember they can both Kill you. Stick to the safety of peptides.

So when will lion have LGF-3 (longer half-life) in addition to LGF-1?

**BigLittleTim** · 11-22-2006, 02:55 PM

By conventional wisdom, Humalog is the prefered insulin , as it is the fastest-acting insulin; ie. "It gets in-and-out of your system quickly."

Humalin-R (longest acting) is perceived by some to be the worst insulin to use for body-building purposes. If you're trying to cut-up while gaining muscle you have to keep your carbs in check while not going TOO LOW on carbs to get insulin shock, etc.

If you're not worried about putting on fat with your muscle (Rugby Prop), and will be taking in quite a large amound of carbs, protein, (good) fats, etc. post slin injection, is it AS important to use the FAST ACTING insulin?

Also, will taking in an abundance of carbs, post slin injection, help to avoid the problems of hypoglycemic reaction (not enough carbs)?

Thanks for all your answers so far, gentlemen.

-BigLittleTim

**Phreak101** · 11-22-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigLittleTim

By conventional wisdom, Humalog is the prefered insulin , as it is the fastest-acting insulin; ie. "It gets in-and-out of your system quickly."

Humalin-R (longest acting) is perceived by some to be the worst insulin to use for body-building purposes. If you're trying to cut-up while gaining muscle you have to keep your carbs in check while not going TOO LOW on carbs to get insulin shock, etc.

If you're not worried about putting on fat with your muscle (Rugby Prop), and will be taking in quite a large amound of carbs, protein, (good) fats, etc. post slin injection, is it AS important to use the FAST ACTING insulin?

Also, will taking in an abundance of carbs, post slin injection, help to avoid the problems of hypoglycemic reaction (not enough carbs)?

Thanks for all your answers so far, gentlemen.

-BigLittleTim

Ive used R numerous times. The only drawback for me with R is you get extremly tired after consuming so many carbs, don't lie down or you might pass out (and die!). Humalog would be nice, as you'll feel tired for a good hour, but Humalin-R requires no script.

Yes Tim, taking an abundance of carbs will help a lot. You probably won't ever feel hypo symptoms as long as you stick to 10 carbs per IU of insulin you shoot. (Ex - 10IU's = 100 carbs)

If you are looking for size, that's the way to go. I stuck with the 1:10 ratio while on my GH and I got so big so fast I couldn't fit into my clothes. Personally I buy dextrose and put it in with my PWO shake. If you are looking to cut up, I would try dropping the ratio from 1:10, to 1:9..see how you feel. I know guys that actually go down to 1:7, but I value my life too much to be that dangerous.

Also, make sure to keep a soda, grape juice, etc. something with large amounts of refined, quick acting sugars in it with you at ALL times in case you go hypo. Pharmacies sell glucose tablets which are nice and portable. Whatever you do, KEEP THEM HANDY! I went hypo once and I barely got the glucose tablets in my mouth before I started to get dizzy to the point of dementia.

Good luck to you and be safe!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-22-2006, 03:40 PM

the longer acting slin will require you to monitor blood glucose levels and carb intake for a longer time, personally i dont want to be worrying about going hypo for 7-9 hours and i like to nap so i go with humalog. If you are not bothered about these factors then longer acting is ok. Eating more carbs than needed would ensure no hypo but you would have to monitor with glucose meter to be totally sure.

**BigLittleTim** · 11-22-2006, 05:16 PM

Thanks Phreak & Beast, Good advice as always from you guys.

Would do Humalog if I could get it, but "Tis Hobson's Choice, take that or none." ,as it were.

I've taken my human growth just about as far as I can with just AAS. With more size I've always gotten stronger and more effective as a Prop Forward. Want to take it up to the next level. Will get the glucose monitor and have sugar pills on me at all time (More convenient than carrying a bottle of flat, warm Coke around all day.

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Can't fit in my clothes right now as it is. This will be an interesting experiment.

-BigLittleTim

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-22-2006, 05:25 PM

I look forward to seeing the results.

**C_Bino** · 11-22-2006, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by BigLittleTim

Thanks Phreak & Beast, Good advice as always from you guys.

Would do Humalog if I could get it, but "Tis Hobson's Choice, take that or none." ,as it were.

I've taken my human growth just about as far as I can with just AAS. With more size I've always gotten stronger and more effective as a Prop Forward. Want to take it up to the next level. Will get the glucose monitor and have sugar pills on me at all time (More convenient than carrying a bottle of flat, warm Coke around all day.

)

Can't fit in my clothes right now as it is. This will be an interesting experiment.

-BigLittleTim

Do you know anyone who lives in a country where slin is legal? Get them to send you humalog.

**BigLittleTim** · 11-24-2006, 12:41 PM

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone overseas who might be willing to take the chance with the mails. I don't want to put anyone else at jeapardy because of my own growth needs.

I've been getting some positive feed-back, however; that since I'm not concerned about gaining fat with my muscle, then Humalin-R might not be the wrong choice for me, as it would be for someone who's into more traditional "body-building" (ie: getting big AND cut.)

I'm into BIG and STRONG and BIG. I'll leave the cuts and low BF to all you pretty guys.

-BigLittleTim
5'-7", 270lbs, 56" chest

**BigLittleTim** · 11-24-2006, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I look forward to seeing the results.

I'm actually gonna keep a photo-log of this cycle. I've never kept photographic records of my growth before.

Graduated from Highschool (age 17) at 150lbs. Rowed crew (five man in an eight shell) and was very lean and quick. Graduated from University (22) at 250lbs!

Should dig out some old pics for those who might be interested...

Cheers, mates!

-BigLittleTim