IGF Questions

**POSH** · 02-03-2007, 05:01 PM

Since there is no user manual that cover ALL IGF info, I have a few questions for the guys that know.

1. Should you take IGF1-LR3 Pre-workout OR Post-workout. I read "PWO" and different guys use PWO for both scenerios.

2. When does the IGF need to be refridgerated? Just after it is reconstituted or does it need to be while in powder form?

3. After being on IGF for a week, what should I notice differently about my body/muscles? What type of results should I expect at 80mcg. daily 5/2.

Thanks!

**POSH** · 02-04-2007, 05:06 AM

bump

**POSH** · 02-05-2007, 05:33 AM

Ok...no replys.

One of the reason I want to know what results I should expect, is because I am on week 2 of IGF and I have been feeling alot bigger and fuller. I have ALSO been going to the gym alot more than I used to. So I can't really say which is doing what. Also, I am "off" cycle right now, so not taking anything else.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

**rodosman** · 02-05-2007, 07:39 PM

You should shoot your Igf immediately pwo into the muscles worked. At 80 mcg you should see good results. I am assuming 40 mcg into each muscle worked, example..On bis day you can do 40mcg in the left and 40mcg in the right bis. Also at that dosage you should notice your body getting leaner almost on a daily basis. I am going to run ifg in the very near future (off cycle also) and I plan on doing only a total of 40-50mcg post workout to help with lagging bis, tris, delts. I will not shoot igf on leg day cuz the wheels are big enough.

**POSH** · 02-06-2007, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by rodosman

You should shoot your Igf immediately pwo into the muscles worked. At 80 mcg you should see good results. I am assuming 40 mcg into each muscle worked, example..On bis day you can do 40mcg in the left and 40mcg in the right bis. Also at that dosage you should notice your body getting leaner almost on a daily basis. I am going to run ifg in the very near future (off cycle also) and I plan on doing only a total of 40-50mcg post workout to help with lagging bis, tris, delts. I will not shoot igf on leg day cuz the wheels are big enough.

Should I see significant muscle gain? I am just feeling and somewhat looking a whole lot bigger, and I wanted to figure out if it is because I have been almost doubling my workouts or because of the IGF.

**Liftnainez** · 02-06-2007, 11:19 PM

bump.. i think we need to make a good stick on igf.. maybe get some personal experience from ppl and try to put all the ideas in one post....

**rodosman** · 02-08-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

bump.. i think we need to make a good stick on igf.. maybe get some personal experience from ppl and try to put all the ideas in one post....

Great idea!

**rodosman** · 02-08-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by POSH

Should I see significant muscle gain? I am just feeling and somewhat looking a whole lot bigger, and I wanted to figure out if it is because I have been almost doubling my workouts or because of the IGF.

From everything Ive read IGF is not like aas where your muscles just get bigger (hyperplasia). IGF increases the amount of satelite and muscle cells in the specific area that you pin. So this means that in the long run those new muscle cells can also experience hyperplasia.

**spywizard** · 02-08-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

bump.. i think we need to make a good stick on igf.. maybe get some personal experience from ppl and try to put all the ideas in one post....

you mean like this one..??

My Guide to HGH for anyone interested

**sundancekid** · 02-08-2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

you mean like this one..??

My Guide to HGH for anyone interested

Thats an HGH thread.

**rodosman** · 02-08-2007, 01:38 PM

That is not an IGF thread but it does provide some good info on how and why it works.

When HGH travels to the liver, one of the results of its pass through the liver is the livers secretion of IGF-1. When this IGF-1 is secreted, it stimulates proliferation of chondrocytes (cartilage cells), which result in bone growth. It also plays a part in stimulating both the proliferation and differentiation of myoblasts (the precursor to skeletal muscle fibers). IGF-1 also stimulates amino acid uptake and protein synthesis in muscle and other tissues. Other tissues (muscle, etc.) are acted on by the presence of HGH, also inducing their release of IGF-1.

However, I would like to see a well thought out well informed article devoted to IGF-1

**spywizard** · 02-08-2007, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by sundancekid

Thats an HGH thread.

more like this then??

http://www.steroid.com/IGF.php

**POSH** · 02-08-2007, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

more like this then??

http://www.steroid.com/IGF.php

I already read this one, and it doesn't quite cut it in my opinion. Thanks for the link though.

I want something that can better answer the three questions I have at the first post in this thread.

**POSH** · 02-09-2007, 04:27 PM

bump

**finny** · 02-09-2007, 08:19 PM

Not speaking from experience, but have read quite a bit on the subject.

1. If you decide to shoot it only once a day in a larger dose, then immediately post workout. 20 min later PWO shake, along the lines 50g whey 80g dextrose/malto.

Some people will do smaller doses 3 times day. When done this way, it aids more in fat loss.

2. When you reconstitue IGF, and I assume you use AA, you dont' have to refrigerate. It will hold up to 86F or so and you can store it like that for few months. In powder, I think it should be refridgerated - not sure here.

3. R3 IGF-1 is supposed to be systematic with some localized benefits. So, if you shoot locally and your injection is rather large, as in your case, you will get some localized absorption and the rest wil be systemic. Too large a dose and you might start growing your gut. 40mcg appears to be plenty. 20 each side and if you do quads, you can do 30.

Also, latest 'reasearch' seems to suggest that EOD or E3D injection is much better because ED downregulates the receptors to quick. So all you really need is 40mcgx3day = 120mcg week.

As to what you can expect, at your dose, LBM, localized growth, and possibly some sides that will take some time to show up. IGF is not for immediate results. With lesser doses, you will still get some of the mentioned benefits, but the most you will get long-term. IGF leads to hyperplasia and new muscle cell growth which take some time to form/attach to existing cells.

Again, this is from my reading. I am planning to do my first AAS cycle within a month or so and I will use IGF and PMGF with PCT and as a bridge between cycles.