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    HGH/IGF Cycle idea

    Just throwing the idea out there, nothing definite would just like to know if this cycle looks good
    Main Goal: Fat loss/lean muscle
    HGH
    Week 1 - 2 iu's
    Week 2- 2.5 iu's
    Week 3- 3 iu's
    Week 4- 3.5 iu's
    Week 5-15- 4.0 ius

    IGF
    Week 1-4- 50mcgs/ed 25am/PWO
    Week 8-12- 50mcgs/ed 25am/PWO

    How does that look? I think its ok...
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    im not very knowledgable on hgh but from what i do know and have been told by a good buddy that runs gh is...
    1. i wouldnt run it cuz of $$ i believe aas can yield plenty good enough gains
    2. i wouldnt run any less than 4 iu per day and if i was gonna run it i'd run 8iu most likely
    3. i would run it 6 months + i dont think 3.75 months is long enough........

    but again i dont know much about gh...so thats just what i gathered when i did think bout doing it

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    The whole "needing to run for 6 months" bullshit is just that: bullshit.

    If you want to see decent lbm increases then yeah you gotta run it a while, but he'll see fatloss and the positive sides much quicker than lbm gains

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    it looks good, you may have to supplement with t4 or t3 if you become lethargic..

    and gh is usually and always recommended to run 6 months..

    good luck..
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    I may just run it for 6 months depending on $$$ income thanks spy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    The whole "needing to run for 6 months" bullshit is just that: bullshit.

    If you want to see decent lbm increases then yeah you gotta run it a while, but he'll see fatloss and the positive sides much quicker than lbm gains
    I'll agree with you on that.. more dependent on what he eats if he gains muscle..
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    Are you gonna run any AS?

    I would jump on AS before HGH/IGF IMO.

    I'm actually getting ready to run my first ever run with HGH this summer for a year or so. Looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Are you gonna run any AS?

    I would jump on AS before HGH/IGF IMO.

    I'm actually getting ready to run my first ever run with HGH this summer for a year or so. Looking forward to it.
    Hellmask, Did you have your surgery yet?? Is that why you have your hgh cycle planned for this summer? Are you considering running test with it for awhile? I would, probably e, along with igf, every other month for the duration, at least 6-8 months for the hgh.

    My wrist has beeen holding up pretty damned good. Got through my last cycle with no problems and getting decent lifts, but no one will ever get me to do prop again.

    Can't wait to start the gh cycle this summer. Later Bro ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Are you gonna run any AS?

    I would jump on AS before HGH/IGF IMO.

    I'm actually getting ready to run my first ever run with HGH this summer for a year or so. Looking forward to it.
    Basically
    AAS = Really bad acne for me
    GH = Clear skin

    That's an extreme factor I considered, plus my good friend got amazing gains from GH/IGF

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    Yeah...8 i.u.'s is pretty hard for most people to run...not just the funds, but the adema, carpal-tunnel and related nerve issues, and the stated lethargy. It takes a while for SOME athletes to get to 8 i.u.'s and they are usually pretty big people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecivon
    Hellmask, Did you have your surgery yet?? Is that why you have your hgh cycle planned for this summer? Are you considering running test with it for awhile? I would, probably e, along with igf, every other month for the duration, at least 6-8 months for the hgh.

    My wrist has beeen holding up pretty damned good. Got through my last cycle with no problems and getting decent lifts, but no one will ever get me to do prop again.

    Can't wait to start the gh cycle this summer. Later Bro ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    Basically
    AAS = Really bad acne for me
    GH = Clear skin

    That's an extreme factor I considered, plus my good friend got amazing gains from GH/IGF

    haha, Acne isn't that horrible of a side effect...yeah it looks bad but it's not serious!

    I'm broke out now and am trying to make myself feel better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    The whole "needing to run for 6 months" bullshit is just that: bullshit.

    If you want to see decent lbm increases then yeah you gotta run it a while, but he'll see fatloss and the positive sides much quicker than lbm gains
    pretty sure i said i'd run it 6 months at the least..not that you HAD to but thats just what i've been told by someone with a ton of gh experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    haha, Acne isn't that horrible of a side effect...yeah it looks bad but it's not serious!

    I'm broke out now and am trying to make myself feel better
    I've always been very self conscience about my acne though, and if it gets bad, I'll kill myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    The whole "needing to run for 6 months" bullshit is just that: bullshit.

    If you want to see decent lbm increases then yeah you gotta run it a while, but he'll see fatloss and the positive sides much quicker than lbm gains
    OMG....that is so fvcking funny...I can't believe your avi, I'll blow a nut lau***ng at that....I saw that kids post yesterday, I'm assuming it was a joke...

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    I am about to start a 6 month to one year HGH cycle on march 12. My acne got very bad on my last cycle and even 3 months later it's still really bad. So I'm going to stay off the AS for at least another three months then run some test for 12 weeks or so with the GH. It does me no good to dedicate my life to looking the way I do only to be embarrassed to take my shirt off with summer coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    The whole "needing to run for 6 months" bullshit is just that: bullshit.

    If you want to see decent lbm increases then yeah you gotta run it a while, but he'll see fatloss and the positive sides much quicker than lbm gains
    Thats exactly what I'm looking for too
    i'm gonna run it with Ergomax and Prostanozol also so that'll help with the LBM factor

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    I would still run somthing with it.

    You have to see what gives sides and what doesn't.

    Anavar /Deca /Tbol/Winstrol , didn't give me hardly any acne whatsoeva. Alittle more oily skin thats all.

    Test.....now thats another story

    If I were you I would run GH and a 10 Week Anavar cycle while on it. High Dose!

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    Well I wont wanna run Anavar with Ergomax LMG AND Prostanozol! 3 orals has bad news written all over it!

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    At your youg age.HGH at that dose is a waste,unless you use American brand.4 iu will not do shit,LOL.Better of giving it to your mum or dad.

    I never got anything from 50mcgs from IGF either.

    Dont waste your cash.

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    How about
    2iu's for 2 weeks (to test it out)
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    5iu's/ED 5 on/2 off

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    I`m telling bro,your a good guy,I truly know my HGH very well,I just dont want you to waste money.I did jino at 11iu EDfor 7 months and it gave me little,fat loss and holding my Physique.I suggest your start playing with IGF first,see if you like that,and if you do,try HGH.As they are related.

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    I'm not doubting you at all Goose, your a vet for a reason. It's just that i've heard alot more positive about GH around 5iu's a day than negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    At your youg age.HGH at that dose is a waste,unless you use American brand.4 iu will not do shit,LOL.Better of giving it to your mum or dad.

    I never got anything from 50mcgs from IGF either.

    Dont waste your cash.

    I don't get the concept behind more HGH is needed for someone of younger age than someone older.

    I'm no GH expert nor have tried it but will soon, But To my current knowledge doesn't administered GH have 0 Impact on ones natural GH production?

    Not like in test where once you inject it your natty is shutdown.

    So wouldn't someone who's 20yrs old whos running 5IU's of GH have more Overall Gh in their system than someone who is 40yrs old, thus make more gains?

    If this is a dumb question ignore it....Always have wondered about this.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    I`m telling bro,your a good guy,I truly know my HGH very well,I just dont want you to waste money.I did jino at 11iu EDfor 7 months and it gave me little,fat loss and holding my Physique.I suggest your start playing with IGF first,see if you like that,and if you do,try HGH.As they are related.

    I would have been very suspicious of my GH if you were putting 11iu's into your body everyday for 7 months and thats all you were getting......were you even getting numbness??

    That is an extremely high dose to run ED for 7 months IMO.

    I know younger guys in there early twenties who have taken 4iu's ED and had decent results with muscle gains and fat loss.

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    Yes I did get sides and it took me 3 months to reach that dose,I`m a vet,I dont think I would get bunk gear mate,LOL.The administration of GH in older athletes with a strong decline in GH levels has shown a severe improvement in endurance. Since levels of GH decline by half every decade, a person of 60 has roughly 15-20% of the GH he had at age twenty. So HGH is especially beneficial to older athletes regarding the effects on endurance and HGH. But just how effective superdosing HGH in younger top athletes is, no one really knows.The people I have met that are young and use low to moderate doses get very little from HGH.Now in regards to muscle mass, I've yet to see anything prove the contrary of what the studies have claimed. I've not seen HGH increase muscle mass at all. Then again, I've never seen anyone use 10-20IU per day of American HGH the way some top level professionals do.You will get increased protein synthesis abilities, an increase in the amount of insulin a person can use effectively, and an increase in the amount of anabolic steroids a person can use effectively,It will help with your AAS cycles for sure.I`m telling at 5iu in your early 20`s your just going to get fat loss at best with chinese gear.

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    I want mainly fatloss thats my goal Goose. Then next summer when I run Test/Deca it'll be for LBM =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    I want mainly fatloss thats my goal Goose. Then next summer when I run Test/Deca it'll be for LBM =)

    Then it will help.Just make sure you get 191aa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Then it will help.Just make sure you get 191aa.
    Yep I did my homework

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Yes I did get sides and it took me 3 months to reach that dose,I`m a vet,I dont think I would get bunk gear mate,LOL.The administration of GH in older athletes with a strong decline in GH levels has shown a severe improvement in endurance. Since levels of GH decline by half every decade, a person of 60 has roughly 15-20% of the GH he had at age twenty. So HGH is especially beneficial to older athletes regarding the effects on endurance and HGH. But just how effective superdosing HGH in younger top athletes is, no one really knows.The people I have met that are young and use low to moderate doses get very little from HGH.Now in regards to muscle mass, I've yet to see anything prove the contrary of what the studies have claimed. I've not seen HGH increase muscle mass at all. Then again, I've never seen anyone use 10-20IU per day of American HGH the way some top level professionals do.You will get increased protein synthesis abilities, an increase in the amount of insulin a person can use effectively, and an increase in the amount of anabolic steroids a person can use effectively,It will help with your AAS cycles for sure.I`m telling at 5iu in your early 20`s your just going to get fat loss at best with chinese gear.
    I agree, I use it for post wo recovery, also allows you to eat more carbs with out worring about gaining so much BF.

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    YOU DIDNT MENTION YOU ARE 21...


    Does that change anyones advice??

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIIIIIIIIIII
    YOU DIDNT MENTION YOU ARE 21...


    Does that change anyones advice??

    I'm pretty sure most knew this.

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    I'm still sold on 5iu's a day for a few months.

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    **** lol... ahh well i was trying to tell him he was a MORON!!! but go for it.. come back with this giant head like the guy from the original jim carey mask movie,... remember.. dorian, the bad guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    I'm still sold on 5iu's a day for a few months.

    When are you starting?
    I plan on in May....Either American or Jino GH @ 4-6IU's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    When are you starting?
    I plan on in May....Either American or Jino GH @ 4-6IU's.
    May 1st. I got 5 kits of generic's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    May 1st. I got 5 kits of generic's.

    Sweet.
    sending u a pm.

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