I'm using IGF1-LR3 from IGTROPIN >>Please Advice

**ayjabri** · 03-14-2007, 12:19 AM

1- Is this product good ?
2- is it Ok to inject it under skin or it must be in the muscle?
3- is it enough to use only the IGF-1 OR i need to use other steroids in this course?

**Gear** · 03-14-2007, 01:20 AM

Igtropin is a GenSci product. GenSci generally have a good reputation so I'm assuming their IGF is good.

I have edited your post as well as it is against the rules to post sources in the open.

Now, answers to your questions:

1 - As I said, yes.
2 - With IGF, it is recomended to inject IM. It's not that hard and is painless.
3 - Using IGF alone or with AAS depends on what you want to achieve. Many will use IGF alone during PCT to increase the chances of keeping what they have gained. If you want a bit of size/stregth, then I suggest you add AAS as well. So as I said, it really depends on what you want to achieve.

-Gear

**ayjabri** · 03-14-2007, 04:52 PM

Gear...

sorry i didn't know it is against the rules to post sources in the open..

I want to use IGF to gain size, i'm new in this anabolic thing, what does AAS means?

**zodiac666** · 03-14-2007, 04:56 PM

anabolic androgenic steroids

**ayjabri** · 03-14-2007, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by zodiac666

anabolic androgenic steroids

thanks,, **************************?

(PLEASE READ RULES - QUESTIONS AS SUCH ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE OPEN -Gear)

**zodiac666** · 03-14-2007, 05:15 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145582

try to look around and educate yourself a little bit and then ask any questions you have

**Swiggy** · 03-14-2007, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by ayjabri

thanks,, ******************************

Dude, read the damn rules.... you just got out of trouble and your gonna start pissing everyone off

**Gear** · 03-14-2007, 08:24 PM

ayjabri,

There is a lot more to taking drugs than just taking it. It would be best if you educate yourself on what these drugs do and how to take them before using anything. Then you should try and get results naturally, once you start struggling, you can then perhaps use something to give you a boost. Don't just jump right into it, it's not worth it believe me.

You have come to the right place if you want to learn. With over 60K members and some rediculous amount of threads, this site has all the answersd for you. Just do some research.

-Gear

**ayjabri** · 03-15-2007, 12:12 AM

Thanks to you all guys ...

I'm new in using steroids and i need all the help i can get

**Gear** · 03-15-2007, 12:58 AM

ayjabri,

How long have you been training for? What are your stats? Age, weight etc?

-Gear

**ayjabri** · 03-15-2007, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Gear

ayjabri,

How long have you been training for? What are your stats? Age, weight etc?

-Gear

I've been training for 9 months now.31 years old , 186 cm ,weight 102 kg (if you like i can get the measurments of shoulders ,waist,...etc)

**Gear** · 03-15-2007, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by ayjabri

I've been training for 9 months now.31 years old , 186 cm ,weight 102 kg (if you like i can get the measurments of shoulders ,waist,...etc)

Not to worry about measurements, not necessary.

So you are new to training right? You have only been doing it for 9 months? Never trained on serious bases before?

-Gear

**ayjabri** · 03-16-2007, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Gear

Not to worry about measurements, not necessary.

So you are new to training right? You have only been doing it for 9 months? Never trained on serious bases before?

-Gear

that is correct...

I use to train for some time long time ago but never as serious as now, i'm training 6 days/week ..

**Gear** · 03-16-2007, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by ayjabri

that is correct...

I use to train for some time long time ago but never as serious as now, i'm training 6 days/week ..

Bro, IMO, I would try and train naturally for as long as possible before using any drugs. I did it for about 5yrs before I touched anything. You will have much better results down the track. Some people just can't hold of, and that's fair enough because AAS can really give you quite a boost if used properly. But I really think you should build a good natural physique, and gain natural strength first. I know this is something you don't want to hear but it's good advice.

PM me if you like and we will discuss what you want to do.

Otherwise, I'll bump this.

All the best.

-Gear

**plzr8** · 03-16-2007, 12:31 PM

^^^^ agreed, good advice

**zodiac666** · 03-16-2007, 08:33 PM

^ditto, if its been a while since you've worked out or if you've never trained very seriously you should have very good gains just from diet and training to start off with. once your gains slow down you can use AAS to improve even further, even just training hard and eating for 6 months before you start juicing would be much better. you also might be thinking that the juice will help motivate you to train harder and eat better, but that definitely isn't always the case. i've seen more than one guy start juicing and keep the same lazy habits as before which is a big waste of money and unhealthy as well.

just get on a pretty strict diet and training schedule and try to hold out as long as possible, at the very least a few months, good luck

**ayjabri** · 03-19-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Gear

Bro, IMO, I would try and train naturally for as long as possible before using any drugs. I did it for about 5yrs before I touched anything. You will have much better results down the track. Some people just can't hold of, and that's fair enough because AAS can really give you quite a boost if used properly. But I really think you should build a good natural physique, and gain natural strength first. I know this is something you don't want to hear but it's good advice.

PM me if you like and we will discuss what you want to do.

Otherwise, I'll bump this.

All the best.

-Gear

Gear...thanks 4 the advise.
As i told you i'm 31 years old ,although i spent only 9 serious months in bodybuilding but i used to play other sports since i was 13, i like to think of myself as builtup naturally and may go for the next step..

i'd like to PM you and talk about it

**Gear** · 03-19-2007, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by ayjabri

Gear...thanks 4 the advise.
As i told you i'm 31 years old ,although i spent only 9 serious months in bodybuilding but i used to play other sports since i was 13, i like to think of myself as builtup naturally and may go for the next step..

i'd like to PM you and talk about it

No dramas mate, PM me whenever you like and I'll do my best to help you out. Note that you need to up your post count in order to send PMs.

-Gear