Looking to add T4 to HGH cycle. need dosage help.

**FuKiN MoNSTeR** · 06-15-2007, 12:26 AM

i am currently taking
6iu ed HGH
300mg/week test prop
400mg week Equipoise
ECA stack daily

Its time for me to hunker down and start chipping away at the biggest place holding me back (abs, or lack there of). im at about 15% BF rt now and am looking to add T4 to my cycle. im looking at doing 150mcg/ed.

2 questions.
1. will this be enough (im 24)?
2. do i need to go 2 weeks on 2 off like cytomel ? Is it as dangerous on the thyroid?

thank you for your help!

**FuKiN MoNSTeR** · 06-15-2007, 12:28 AM

i know i shouldnt be reffering to 6 months of HGH as a cycle(bad habit)

**Fixr** · 06-16-2007, 04:49 AM

I would start the T4 lower than 150mcg ED. I am in my 3rd month of a GH cycle and have gone on and off T4 twice now. There is no doubt that it increases energy levels and helps to lose fat when I am on it, but the sides were too much for me. The first try I went with 100mcg ed and I was getting crazy heart palpitations and sweats all the time.( I was waking up soaking wet from sweating in my sleep). The second go around with the T4 I had the same symptoms, but with less severity at 50mcg ED. I had to stop it again. Both times I did the T4 it affected my personality, I was nasty and hed a short fuse with people.(not horrible, but not normal either)
On the other side of the coin, my girlfriend who is on 2iu of GH ED takes 50mcg of T4 ED and has no issues at all.
Thats my .002, good luck and I hope it works for you.

P.S.- I would start one substance at a time too, so you can keep track of how each one is affecting you as you go through your cycle.

BG · 06-16-2007, 07:45 AM

I run 50 mcg's.

**plzr8** · 06-16-2007, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

I run 50 mcg's.

also ran that dose...

7 days ED? roughly how many months on continously?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-16-2007, 01:36 PM

Take 100mcgs before bed, of T4.

**ginkobulloba** · 06-17-2007, 04:55 AM

I take 50mcg first thing when I wake up.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-17-2007, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by ginkobulloba

I take 50mcg first thing when I wake up.

Stop doing that and start doing it before bed instead.

**MrNice** · 06-17-2007, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

Stop doing that and start doing it before bed instead.

why's that?

**plzr8** · 06-17-2007, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

Stop doing that and start doing it before bed instead.

any information on such a definitive statement AR?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-17-2007, 01:22 PM

Remember, taking GH lowers your T4, right? Which makes you hypothyroid with respect to T4. When patients take their Synthroid (T4) at night vs/ in the morning, a greater thyroid response is seen (higher circulating levels of thyroid hormone) probably due to better gastrointestinal uptake.

I posted the abstract a few days ago, in my blog:

http://www.anthony-roberts.com/blog/?p=189

**plzr8** · 06-17-2007, 02:06 PM

interesting read AR, thanks

**FuKiN MoNSTeR** · 06-18-2007, 09:55 AM

thank you very much AR

**Microbrew** · 06-18-2007, 02:17 PM

So T4 will help with energy levels? I've been on but not consistant since January and I took T4 but stopped only after acouple of wks, went on Vacation and didn't start it back up.

I've been lazy and tired for the last 6months and it's friggin sucks and I've actually gotten sick twice in the last 3 months.

Micro

**dazbo** · 07-02-2007, 09:17 AM

Sorry if this is Hijacking but others might be wondering the same thing, I dont know.

If 100mcg of T4 is equivalent to about 25mcg of T3, what are the benefits in taking T4 over T3 at the same equivalent dose? I ask because, I started HGH/IGF-1 about 4days ago. I havent yet been and collected my T4 yet but had some T3 left. So, I am using that until I collect my T4, could I just stay on the T3?

Also, regarding the dose timing, you say use T4 at night, does the same apply for using T3? (Or all Thyroid meds like your blog says)?

Thanks AR

**longhorn814** · 07-02-2007, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by dazbo

Sorry if this is Hijacking but others might be wondering the same thing, I dont know.

If 100mcg of T4 is equivalent to about 25mcg of T3, what are the benefits in taking T4 over T3 at the same equivalent dose? I ask because, I started HGH/IGF-1 about 4days ago. I havent yet been and collected my T4 yet but had some T3 left. So, I am using that until I collect my T4, could I just stay on the T3?

Also, regarding the dose timing, you say use T4 at night, does the same apply for using T3? (Or all Thyroid meds like your blog says)?

Thanks AR

have you seen this?

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone with James Daemon, Ph.D.

**dazbo** · 07-02-2007, 10:50 AM

Thanks Longhorn!!

I read that study a long time ago and thats where I originally found out I needed the T4! I knew there was a reason! I will stop the T3 (Luckily today was my only day of it) and will go and collect my T4!

Thanks

**sizzlechest** · 10-12-2011, 01:25 PM

Anyone have actual number siwth dosages and for how long. Just take 50mcg for the duration of the HGH?

**ScotchGuard02** · 10-12-2011, 02:03 PM

I've been on HGH for 3 years (it will be 3 years in November). I've been on 100mcg of T4 for about 8 months. I first took T4 along with adex and clen . The combo of the HGH/T4/Test/adex/clen really got my body fat down. I was at 9% after my cycle. I started at about 14%.