IGF-1 for tendon recuperation...

[Timm1704]

after viewing a thread in the injuries and rehab forum, i am considering running a short-term cycle of IGF-1 to speed up my recovery from probable tendonitis/tendonosis.

I have been suffering for around 3-4 months now, and have had 2months away from the gym, partly due to the injury, and also due to various factors.

I have had an MRI done, and will get the results next week.

If the results show what I suspect, I was thinking of running IGF-1 alone, at a dosage of between 30-50mcg's ED, for a minimum of 4 weeks.

Any pointers or suggestions on how to/if to run this cycle? Bearing in mind it is solely intended for the recuperation of the tendons in my pec and shoulder.

Thanks in advance for any responses

[Timm1704]

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[dabigcheese]

I am in the same boat so to speak. About to order some IGF-1. While Growth healed my injury considerably, it is still there and after a heavy workout I can feel some dull pain in the bicep tendon. I want to get rid of this completely.

I am also planning to run 30 micrograms a day for a month. So any info on usage would be very useful.

[fossilfuel7]

I am in the same boat so to speak. About to order some IGF-1. While Growth healed my injury considerably, it is still there and after a heavy workout I can feel some dull pain in the bicep tendon. I want to get rid of this completely.

I am also planning to run 30 micrograms a day for a month. So any info on usage would be very useful.

If you buy it from any of the research chem sites....I would be surprised if it healed it or did much at all.

If I were you...I would try injecting into the tendon directly with the GH...and see if that goes the extra distance for you.

I have a number of tendon problems in my arms and have been injecting IGF-1lr3( don't know if it's real or not) directly into the tendons and it isn't doing much if anything.

Doses range from 30mcgs to 80 mcgs and no difference. I am having no sides whatsoever. I have heard of people having much better results with GH either sub Q or spot injections.

I will try GH because I know I am getting the real deal from the source.

[dabigcheese]

If you buy it from any of the research chem sites....I would be surprised if it healed it or did much at all.

If I were you...I would try injecting into the tendon directly with the GH...and see if that goes the extra distance for you.

I have a number of tendon problems in my arms and have been injecting IGF-1lr3( don't know if it's real or not) directly into the tendons and it isn't doing much if anything.

Doses range from 30mcgs to 80 mcgs and no difference. I am having no sides whatsoever. I have heard of people having much better results with GH either sub Q or spot injections.

I will try GH because I know I am getting the real deal from the source.

Ive been on a board where a guy was hit by a truck and suffered horrific injuries. He survived but the gym seemed to be a thing of the past. He took IGF-1 for a month and was back in the gym. Now, I don't know if I believe the guy's story but there are a lot of guys with recovery stories even here. Run a search for "IGF-1" and "tendon" and there are some stories:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ght=IGF+tendon

The fact is that IGF-1 is released when GH gets processed by the liver. And it is the IGF-1 that heals the tendons ultimately. So if we take IGF-1 directly, it should speed up the process because the effect is much more concentrated.

I have a feeling your stuff may not be genuine. But I am guessing. You should see some side effects at 80 micrograms a day. Do you not feel anything (not even headache or drowsiness) at those doses?

[plzr8]

I have a feeling your stuff may not be genuine. But I am guessing. You should see some side effects at 80 micrograms a day. Do you not feel anything (not even headache or drowsiness) at those doses?

i've received some rough headaches during my workouts @ 80mcg....was forced to lower my dose

[dabigcheese]

i've received some rough headaches during my workouts @ 80mcg....was forced to lower my dose

Do you avoid carbs for a certain number of hours before and after the injections or does this not apply when taking IGF-1? With GH, I tend to take an AM shot and a protein shake - no carbs then for the next two hours. is it the same with IGF-1?

[fossilfuel7]

I have felt nothing at all. My recovery is exactly the same....it's as if I am injecting water.


It seems like bro's have much worse sides at a low dose of GH..then they do a high dose of IGF.

From what I have read...there is very little real deal IGF-1lr3 floating around out there....and it pisses me off that all of these research chem sites act like there stuff is the real deal...then you take a high dose and feel nothing.

I have been duped by two different sites both times now.

[fossilfuel7]

Everybody acts likes to talk and say that IGF-1lr3 is more potent than GH...yet the sides from GH are much more pronounced from the GH than IGF.

Maybe becasue the GH is real...and the IGF may not be...I don't know...but I do know that GH long term for 6 months+ seems to be the best for anything to do with body composition, tendons, ligaments, joints etc......according to bro's experiences on this and other boards.

[dabigcheese]

I have felt nothing at all. My recovery is exactly the same....it's as if I am injecting water.


It seems like bro's have much worse sides at a low dose of GH..then they do a high dose of IGF.

From what I have read...there is very little real deal IGF-1lr3 floating around out there....and it pisses me off that all of these research chem sites act like there stuff is the real deal...then you take a high dose and feel nothing.

I have been duped by two different sites both times now.

How long have you been on it?

[fossilfuel7]

How long have you been on it?

Two 4 week cycles in the past 4 months.

[plzr8]

Do you avoid carbs for a certain number of hours before and after the injections or does this not apply when taking IGF-1? With GH, I tend to take an AM shot and a protein shake - no carbs then for the next two hours. is it the same with IGF-1?

i have 2 pieces of fruit with my IGF immediately pre-workout....my headaches have subsided after lowering my dose from 80mcg to 50-60mcg...another option would be to take my igf PWO, but im addicted to the pumps it gives me at the gym when taken immediately before

with GH, i take in the AM on an empty stomach and then have carbs about 30-60 mins later

[dabigcheese]

i have 2 pieces of fruit with my IGF immediately pre-workout....my headaches have subsided after lowering my dose from 80mcg to 50-60mcg...another option would be to take my igf PWO, but im addicted to the pumps it gives me at the gym when taken immediately before

with GH, i take in the AM on an empty stomach and then have carbs about 30-60 mins later

So do you have a carb meal, say an hour before the work-out and a carb meal right after the work-out?

[plzr8]

So do you have a carb meal, say an hour before the work-out and a carb meal right after the work-out?

generally half hour to an hour both pre and post....both meals are moderatly sized...plus a protein shake (protein,glutamine,water) immeaditely post

you want some fast acting carbs with your igf...or you may begin to feel light headed even with a moderate dose (fruit is a great choice for this)

[dabigcheese]

Is it because fruit juice is very high in sugars?

[DaveB12]

I have some tendinitis issues as well as an AC joint injury that didn't heal properly, and I was thinking that a fun side effect of IGF use might be that these improved. They haven't. If anything my shoulder is worse. I am getting stronger and handling PR weight overhead but the shoulder still doesn't feel like it's put together right. More relevant to you is the tendinitis though, and my left arm has it come and go as it always has, occasionally limiting me during pressing movements and really flaring up the last time I tried to do squats with bands - just keeping things stable while unracking the weight with the fully flexed bands really hurt.

While the increased hunger and the fact that I did go hypo once (I actually sort of let this happen on purpose as a test) has me thinking my IGF is the real deal, the possibility certainly exists that it's not. I got mine from a research chem site as well. Next time it'll be from another source though and we'll see if there is any difference.

[perfectbeast2001]

Do you avoid carbs for a certain number of hours before and after the injections or does this not apply when taking IGF-1? With GH, I tend to take an AM shot and a protein shake - no carbs then for the next two hours. is it the same with IGF-1?

Carbs should not be avoided when using IGF. IGF is insulin like in name and nature!! In other words IGF without carbs could lead to a hypo, which could mean death! It is more difficult to hypo on IGF than it is with slin but iy is not impossible so carbs are a MUST. THe symptoms you guys are describing (headaches ect) are probably the first signs of mild hypo.

BTW the research sites are pretty good peptide sources IMO. It is a buyers market out there and anyone selling crap is soon going to struggle for business with such stiff competition.

[fossilfuel7]

IMO from what I have heard and read from other people's experience including a few pro's....GH is the one drug that can transform someone's composition long term and actually strengthen and grow(heal) the tendons in your body.

whereas IGF can only be cycled 4-5 weeks and has minimal short term effects(even the real thing).

GH's effects are much more pronounced on the body as a whole vs. IGF and you can stay on it continually.

[Timm1704]

so, what is the overall verdict then? i have spoken with my source, and he has IGF, its from a medical lab and it is rather expensive. I am wei***ng up whether to try it or not.

I recieved my MRI results last night, the insertion of the supraspinatus (rotator cuff) to the humerus shows signs of wear and tear. I would like to irradicate this somehow, if possible

[dabigcheese]

so, what is the overall verdict then? i have spoken with my source, and he has IGF, its from a medical lab and it is rather expensive. I am wei***ng up whether to try it or not.

I recieved my MRI results last night, the insertion of the supraspinatus (rotator cuff) to the humerus shows signs of wear and tear. I would like to irradicate this somehow, if possible

I am going to use both. Ive got GH left to last another two months at least and am looking to order IGF-1. I am running GH at 3 IU a day. That's enough for me. The IGF I would run at 30 micrograms a day for a month and see what happens. After a month it would be a good time to take stock of the situation and see where things are going.

If you can afford it, use both. If you cannot afford both, use IGF for a month and see what happens. Make sure you order genuine and good quality stuff. The way I see it, you have nothing to lose. If the stuff works, you gain. If it doesn't work, your body is no worse off than before. So I would go for it.

[Timm1704]

you know what cheesy, your right. I will get some money saved and make me a purchase