Using GH to shuttle nutrients....

BG · 07-31-2007, 09:54 AM

Over time Ive injected GH in almost every way, 5/2, eod, postwork only, preworkout only ect ect. Ive been using 3x dialy, when I wake up with shake, then right afterwork with shake then postworkout with my whole food meal. I was wondering, will raised IGF levels help shuttle nutrients like slin does? Honestly Ive been taking my prework-out shot to close to my pre training oat meal, maybe making myself insulin sensitive, my bf seems to be increasing gradually. Now back to my question, will taking gh when I take my shake or whole food meal help shuttle nutrients or should I try to isolate my shots more? Thanks

**lightwaytbaby** · 07-31-2007, 03:38 PM

well we all know that gh increases igf-1 levels...and from what ive read on igf, is that is does have similar effects to insulin i.e., aiding in shuttleing nutrients, just to a much lesser scale. Have you tried igf with gh yet?

BG · 07-31-2007, 06:51 PM

No, I do have some. Ive been using my GH as if it were slin and I feel Ive been getting better growth that way then any other GH protocol. I wanted to see other people thoughts, thanks for the reply. My bulker is coming up in September, havent decided if I was going to go with slin or IGF-1, probably the later of the two because it would be my first run with slin and I plan on running my GH at high dosage.

**lightwaytbaby** · 07-31-2007, 07:04 PM

i have never ran slin yet either, and i think its gonna work its way into my next cycle. slin is one of the most powerful anabolic agents(so i hear) that i have ever heard of and read up on, and this would be the optimum may to maximize the amount of nutrients delieverd, far superrior than the igf would.good luck with all bro...

**RedBaron** · 07-31-2007, 09:57 PM

HGH does shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary fashion with insulin (either your own endogenous or injected). IGF-1 will end up doing about 50% of the work of insulin, and will make your body more sensitive to the effects of insulin. Both have their advantages. If you haven't already, you may want to consider running IGF and Insulin in alternating 4 week intervals ... in my opinion you get the best both have to offer that way.

BG · 08-01-2007, 02:40 PM

Thanks RB, going to think about it fitting them in September.

**G-Force** · 08-01-2007, 03:58 PM

recently i have heard a lot of people are shooting slin and hgh in the same shot post workout

do they compliment each other in the same shot

is this a good idea

i have heard good and bad things about this

**RedBaron** · 08-01-2007, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

recently i have heard a lot of people are shooting slin and hgh in the same shot post workout

do they compliment each other in the same shot

is this a good idea

i have heard good and bad things about this

It really depends on what the goal is. In most ways they compliment each other quite nicely. They shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary fashion, and the insulin will combat increased BG levels. HGH and insulin hitting the liver and other tissues at the same time will equate to some impressive IGF boosts.

About the only trade-off that comes to mind is that I don't believe you will get quite the fat mobilizing and burning from the HGH if slin is also in the equation at the same time. What I usually do is take my HGH pre-workout, then insulin post-workout. That puts a little space between the two, but keeps them close enough to still get some impressive IGF boosts while retaining some fat loss properties of HGH.

**G-Force** · 08-02-2007, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by RedBaron

It really depends on what the goal is. In most ways they compliment each other quite nicely. They shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary fashion, and the insulin will combat increased BG levels. HGH and insulin hitting the liver and other tissues at the same time will equate to some impressive IGF boosts.

About the only trade-off that comes to mind is that I don't believe you will get quite the fat mobilizing and burning from the HGH if slin is also in the equation at the same time. What I usually do is take my HGH pre-workout, then insulin post-workout. That puts a little space between the two, but keeps them close enough to still get some impressive IGF boosts while retaining some fat loss properties of HGH.

sound advice as always RB

i have to say i tried it for the first time lastg night : 8 iu's slin with 7iu's hgh in the same injection and i woke up in the morning looking lean as f"ck and lighter on the scales

coincidence?

i dunno - but certainly unexpected