HGH? Worth it or not?

[Juust Jaakked]

ok I'm 20 years old, (don't get on me with all the "you're too young" stuff, I was shaving in grade 6) I am 5 foot 10, 210lbs and around 10% body fat.

I'm not trying to be Mr Universe here so I'm not looking to get too incredibly huge, around 220 or 225 at 7% would be nice but that's a long term goal.

My cycle history is:

First Cycle when I was 18 - Test Cyp
Second Cycle when I was 19 - Equipose
Third Cycle at 20 - Dbol, Deca, Enanthate

This is what I've gotten to so far so you have an idea,




Crappy pics I know and I'm not exactly a posing expert but you get the idea.

So anyways what I'm really wondering is, is it worth it for me to do a cycle of HGH in say a year?..... I've heard it takes 7-10 years off your life etc etc etc... but I have shoulder injuries from rugby and I've also heard that it can make you grow, promotes new muscle growth and not just hypertrophy, heals tendons and ligaments...

What are your thoughts...

P.S. My growth plates are fused I've had them X rayed...

[dupa95]

If you want longevity no if you life is disposable yes. You seem to have done you reserch and got good results and held them.

[Titleist]

..... I've heard it takes 7-10 years off your life etc etc etc... but I have shoulder injuries from rugby and I've also heard that it can make you grow, promotes new muscle growth and not just hypertrophy, heals tendons and ligaments...
...

O really? I was unaware of that small side...

Why don't you read this and decide if it's worth it:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=265314

[Juust Jaakked]

yeah I already read that article, that's why I'm asking whether you guys think it's worth it for me in my particular position to take it....wait a few years...not take it at all... etc...

and the 7-10 years off yur life thing is just rumours from people nothing to back it up, I'm pretty sure that's BS though

[longhorn814]

7-10 years off your life?? Where did you hear that one??

[Juust Jaakked]

haha ok so I'm guessing the 7-10 years thing is complete BS, good to hear cause I kinda have my heart set on an HGH cycle sometime in the next 6 months or so...

still not much input on whether you guys think it's worth it or not though...

[Titleist]

haha ok so I'm guessing the 7-10 years thing is complete BS, good to hear cause I kinda have my heart set on an HGH cycle sometime in the next 6 months or so...

still not much input on whether you guys think it's worth it or not though...

That all d epends man. As long as you aren't expecting results that will compare to AAS, you're good to go. If you're looking for an increase in well-being, "healthier" skin, fat loss, etc... then yeah, GH will be great for you.

It will also help with your bum shoulder.

Would it be worth it to me? Yes.
Would it be worth it to you? Only you can decide, but it wouldn't hurt. You are a little young at 20, so I'm not sure exactly where that factors in...

Basically, as long as you know what to expect from GH, you won't be dissapointed(supplier d epending).

[longhorn814]

most of the benefits of HGH are anti aging, some fat loss, etc...dont expect much in terms of muscle mass..at 20 years old, i dont know if you would really benefit as much as someone who is older

[Juust Jaakked]

well for the next little while I'd like to get and stay at around 210lbs and say 6 or 7%... I just wanna look really really good, then I'm thinking in another year I'll do another bulking cycle and try to gain some more weight, I've also heard that if you stack HGH with AAS you get really nice results...true?

if so what would be a good stack with HGH for my goals?

[Titleist]

well for the next little while I'd like to get and stay at around 210lbs and say 6 or 7%... I just wanna look really really good, then I'm thinking in another year I'll do another bulking cycle and try to gain some more weight, I've also heard that if you stack HGH with AAS you get really nice results...true?

if so what would be a good stack with HGH for my goals?

Yes, true. AAS and GH are very synergistic.

Whichever compounds you would use to suit your goals in your next bulker. Test/19-Nor/DHT...

[Juust Jaakked]

Ok so how would this look in your opinion...

6 month HGH, Running this lean bulk cycle along side it...
http://www.steroid.com/intermediatecycle3.php

also because the HGH is obviously significantly longer in duration, when should I start the AAS? right at the beginning? at the end? middle?

[Juust Jaakked]

for some reason I can't help but think I'm overdoing it with that last cycle...
I get carried away sometimes =/

[Titleist]

How about:
Wk 1-4 Dbol 30-40mg/ED
Wk 1-14 Test E 500mg/wk
Wk 1-12 Deca 400mg/wk
Wk 11-16 Winstrol/Anavar 60mg/ED

Something like that is what I would run. You can play with the doses/duration a bit if you want. EQ can't begin to compare to Deca. I think you'd find yourself dissapointed if you ran the EQ over Deca, but it's up to you.

Start your GH, run it for about 3-4 months, then throw in your AAS cycle. Continue the GH through PCT and beyond, for however long you want to run it.

[Juust Jaakked]

hah you know what the funny thing is...that's EXACTLY what my last cycle was that I just came off... except without the winny... so wouldn't doing the same cycle twice in a row give me crappy results? although I am waiting AT LEAST 4 months before starting anything again, plus the 3 -4 months of HGH before starting AAS would give me like 8-10 months between them...

and I have reservations about Deca...I didn't like the deca dink

[Titleist]

hah you know what the funny thing is...that's EXACTLY what my last cycle was that I just came off... except without the winny... so wouldn't doing the same cycle twice in a row give me crappy results? although I am waiting AT LEAST 4 months before starting anything again, plus the 3 -4 months of HGH before starting AAS would give me like 8-10 months between them...

and I have reservations about Deca...I didn't like the deca dink

No, it wouldn't give you shitty results, however, you can always try different compounds so you know how each one affects you.

Personally, I would have either Deca or Tren in there, with Test. You could always try Masteron, I don't know I'm rambling.

[longhorn814]

honestly bro with your stats and age, I dont really think you need HGH right now, nor will you benefit a lot from it at 20 years old. Look into IGF-1...it'll help with your goals better and it'll be cheaper on your pocket book too!!

[Juust Jaakked]

ok I'm not going to pretend like I've ever even heard og IGF-1 besides from these forums, so I'm gonna do a little research on it, but maybe someone could help me in terms of whether to just take it by itself or to stack it for best results?

[Juust Jaakked]

ok did a little research, from what I can gather it causes new muscle growth not just hypertrophy, so I'm guessing it would stack nicely with an AAS cycle? and also people seem to run it one month on one month off etc.

If I were to do a cycle of IGF-1, can anyone suggest a dosage per day and a length for it? also whether I should stack it with AAS or try it all by itself?

I'm also still a little bit confused with the method of injection and injection sites for it...

[Titleist]

ok did a little research, from what I can gather it causes new muscle growth not just hypertrophy, so I'm guessing it would stack nicely with an AAS cycle? and also people seem to run it one month on one month off etc.

If I were to do a cycle of IGF-1, can anyone suggest a dosage per day and a length for it? also whether I should stack it with AAS or try it all by itself?

I'm also still a little bit confused with the method of injection and injection sites for it...

I would run it during your PCT, it will do wonders for keeping your gains.

Also, it's gonna take awhile for the results from IGF to show, it's great when thinking about the long haul.

I'm not gonna answer every one of your questions, because there is a TON of information on IGF scattered across the net and this board.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=258062
^^I'd read that, ignore the pissing match.

[NewBreed]

Try it, if you´re into it... at your age, it might be double the benefit, or maybe less, there´s no scientific report about it, but from what I´ve read, seen and heard, the endocrine system tolerates much more and gets back quicker at your age, than at another.

-HGH worth the money? No. ... -The effects? absolutely! Always stack it with roids and some off-days, bigger dose -> higher IGF-response from the liver.

Good luck, but you might reach your goals without it, as you should be a fountain of growth hormone yourself withr roids.

NewBreed

[ginkobulloba]

Dude I am 26, on 4iu of blue tops for the last 3 months and recently got on a cycle of 400mg of test cyp and 200mg deca per week and 50mg proviron ed.

I know, low dosages and basically your sister's cycle, right? Dude, every day I've got people stopping me and saying they can't believe how awesome I am looking. So definitely, this stuff works. HGH is the shit. And Van Halen rocks.