GH Noob. Help needed.....

[RATM]

After reading RedBarons encyclopediaesque thread about his GH use, it sealed the deal for me. I have always been one who always wanted to try GH, but the funds issue always kept me from it. Now that its more affordable to me, here is what I am planning so please critique and flame away...

Month 1.

2iu/day with a 5/2 split. Injecting at 0500-0530 hours.

Month 2

3 u/day same split. 2 iu @ 0500-0530 and 1 iu @ 0900-0930

Month 3

4 iu/day same split 2 iu each at above times

Month 4

5 iu day same split 3 iu first then 2 iu

Month 5

6 iu day same split. split in 1/2

Here are some questions that I have.

1. I have enough Test Prop and Tren to run a 10 week cycle of each. Where and When would i best include these?

2. I know the GH is injected SQ in the ab domen. Do I need to vary the location? Or will a simple right side then left side work?

3. I am hesitant to use t3 with this. I have had mixed results with it to begin with and dont want anything to interfere with the GH. Absolutely necessary or hit or miss?

A little info regarding stats...

2 borderline insane children have limited my time in the gym so I have accumlated approx 22-23% BF. I will be using the GH primarily for fat burning. Given its price and my dedication to a 32 inch waist, I am 100% committed in the diet and cardio needs. If i get couragous, I will try to post before, during and after pics.

Thanks to all who help and give their input....

[soulstealer]

After reading RedBarons encyclopediaesque thread about his GH use, it sealed the deal for me. I have always been one who always wanted to try GH, but the funds issue always kept me from it. Now that its more affordable to me, here is what I am planning so please critique and flame away...

Month 1.

2iu/day with a 5/2 split. Injecting at 0500-0530 hours.

Month 2

3 u/day same split. 2 iu @ 0500-0530 and 1 iu @ 0900-0930

Month 3

4 iu/day same split 2 iu each at above times

Month 4

5 iu day same split 3 iu first then 2 iu

Month 5

6 iu day same split. split in 1/2

Here are some questions that I have.

1. I have enough Test Prop and Tren to run a 10 week cycle of each. Where and When would i best include these?

2. I know the GH is injected SQ in the ab domen. Do I need to vary the location? Or will a simple right side then left side work?

3. I am hesitant to use t3 with this. I have had mixed results with it to begin with and dont want anything to interfere with the GH. Absolutely necessary or hit or miss?

A little info regarding stats...

2 borderline insane children have limited my time in the gym so I have accumlated approx 22-23% BF. I will be using the GH primarily for fat burning. Given its price and my dedication to a 32 inch waist, I am 100% committed in the diet and cardio needs. If i get couragous, I will try to post before, during and after pics.

Thanks to all who help and give their input....

Dude I'm not one to preach but if your talking about starting a GH/AS regiment form the gate IE just getting back to the gym I would rethink that... I would suggest getting a few months under your belt of regular training/nutrition before you start... with that out of the way the 5 on 2 off regiment is great for saving money but doesnt have any other benefit so if its not a monatery issue I would suggest running 5-6 IU's ED 7 days a week with say 100mcg of T4 instead of T3 and starting your prop/tren cycle around 1-2 months into the GH... Just my 2 cents..

[RATM]

I appreciate your input. I should have read what I wrote. I have been steadily training for approx 6 weeks. Dieting as well and am down 21 pounds from just diet and cardio. I haven't been balls to the wall training, but have been doing maybe 75% max effort in an attempt not to injure myself. This will be my 8th AAS cycle but first GH.

[Gear]

You can inject around the same area if you like, or you can inject in other locations. If you are after fat burning you will find that you probbaly won't need to breach the 3 - 4IU mark, but just see how you go.

As for T3, I always use it but that's just me. However, you will still get gains without it. Considering you are after fat loss I would say T3 might be a good idea.

-Gear

[RATM]

Thanks for the response Gear. So more than 4 iu's per day dosent affect fat burning? I would like to keep it at 4 iu/day and lengthen the cycle if that make sense. Also, would injections in the fatty areas I have (love handles and flank) be beneficial or just stick to the ab domen?

[Gear]

No matter how much GH you use you will always get fat loss benefits, however, it is usually lower doses that are beneficial for fat burning more than higher doses. Once you start using higher doses you are more than likely to start experiencing mass gains, so you can certainly go ahead with using 4IU+, but I was just trying to save you money.

You can inject in your love handles, this is common practise.

Good luck.

-Gear

[RATM]

awesome advice. Thanks. regarding the Tren/Prop. Start it 4-6 weeks into the GH cycle as soulstealer suggested or do you have a different opinion?

[Gear]

You can start your AAS whenever you like, but for maximum benefits you should start your AAS about 8 - 12 weeks before you start GH. I know many that use AAS and unexpectedly throw in GH in the middle of their AAS cycle and still get great results, so you can go ahead and start your AAS whenever you like but I've told you your best option.

Tren, prop and GH is a great mix for fat loss benefits. If your diet and training is in tact you should get some great falt loss and muscle gains.

Good luck.

-Gear

[soulstealer]

I was suggesting running the prop and tren a month into the GH so that your IGF-1 levels would be higher while running the other compounds and suggested the T4 over the T3 because of an article I stumbled across stating t4 works more synergenicly with GH but If I remember correctly that was only for maintenance as t3 would probably bring superior fat loss.... I agree with everything gear says but I would still run the compounds together.

[Gear]

Sorry, I was under the impression that you will be running more than one AAS cycle. When people use GH, because most will use this compound for at least 4 months, most end up doing a couple of AAS cycles within that time.

So, if you are going to do more than one AAS cycle then start your first AAS cycle before you start your GH, and start your second cycle while you're on GH. If you are only going to do one AAS cycle within the GH cycle period, then I suggest you cycle your AAS and GH at the same time.

-Gear

[RATM]

Great info from both! Thanks! I will def do that and post the results and pics

[Gear]

Great, all the best mate.

-Gear