Igf-1 and growing intestines

[kburek]

I'm wonder if any of Igf-1 users noticed growing intestines during igf-1 cycle,
especially with the biger doses like 80-100mcg,because I'm affraid my inetstines grew a little bit .Any experience??

[ricker35910]

no, i run 80 mcg's ED i train. i've ran 4 cycles so far and no growing of intestens yet(knock on wood)..

[jerseyboy]

I've run a few cycles of IGF at 100mcg's along with GH and slin and still no GH gut.

[jbarkley]

What happening that you believe your intestines are growing?

[Lexed]

ya lol how would u know?

[kburek]

What happening that you believe your intestines are growing?

my belly seems to be a little bit bigger,although my body fat level is still the same

[jerseyboy]

ya lol how would u know?

Ever heard of GH gut? The enlargement of the organs causes the stomach to protrude out. Just look at some pros like Ronnie coleman. That's how you'd know.

[ginkobulloba]

I started a thread a long while back about an article by Dave Palumbo where he says that all you need is 11mcg per day of IGF-1. Check out the article, do a search for it or something if you're interested. I am saving my IGF for during pct to run in conjunction with hgh and I will do this dosage protocol. As far as I know, nobody ever did what he says in the artice and posted the results here.

edit- found the article for you.

1)-STORAGE OF IGF-1(prior to mixing)
lyophilized (dry) IGF-1is stable at room temperture for three weeks; however, it should be stored below -18 degrees celsius (in the freezer section).

(2)WEIGHT OF IGF-1
1 milligram (mg) IGF-1 = 1,000 mcg (micrograms) IGF-1 (dry weight- before mixing).

(3) WHAT TO MIX THE IGF-1 WITH
when reconstituting, its important to remember IGF-1 can get "stuck" in the grooves of the glass bottle it comes packaged in. While glass appears smooth to the naked eye, under a microscope, it's a convoluted landscape of grooves and hidden recesses.
By mixing the lyophilized IGF-1 with an "sterile acetic acid" , the IGF-1 molecules are efficiently detached from the glass and solubilized in the mixture.

(4) ADDING THE ACETIC ACID
For the purposes of mathematical ease, I suggest mixing the dry 1 milligram (1,000 microgram) IGF-1 with 3ml (or 3cc) of the "acetic acid" mixture.

(5) PRESERVATION OF THE IGF-1
Next, using a 1cc insulin syringe draw out 1cc out of the bottle containing the 3cc acid water/IGF-1 mixture. In a seperate 1cc insulin syringe, draw up another 1cc of the solution. Freeze these two loaded insulin syringes. They will be utilized at a later date.

NOTE:Freezing can safely and effectively preserve IGF-1 (even after its been mixed).

(6)THE CORRECT DILUTION
To the remaining 1cc of IGF-1 thats left in the glass bottle, add 2cc of bacterialstatic water.This will return the total volume back up to 3cc.

(7)THE MATHEMATICS
(A)The original concentration of the IGF-1 solution was 1mg(1000 micrograms)
IGF-1 in 3cc of water.

(B)Each 1cc that was removed,then,contained approximately 333 micrograms IGF-1 per 1cc.

1,000 micrograms/3cc = 333 micrograms per 1cc

©The 1cc that was left in the bottle, then, also contains 333 micrograms of IGF-1.

(D)Next,we added 2cc of bacterialstatic water to the bottle and brought the volume back up to 3cc. The difference is we now have 333 micrograms in 3cc of water (instead of in 1cc)

(E)To determine how much IGF-1 is in 1cc syringe, you must divide by three.

333 micrograms/3cc=111 micrograms per 1cc

(F)To determine how much IGF-1 is in .10cc (or 1/10thcc) we do the following.

111 micrograms/10=11micrograms per .10cc

(8)EFFICTIVE DOSAGES OF IGF-1
Dosages in the range of 10 to 20 micrograms per day(taken 10 to 15 minuters after training) are quite effective for building and repairing muscle tissue.
More importantly,these moderate dosages (by some peoples estimation)
stimulate muscle growth yet escape rapid "downregulation" of the all important IGF-1 receptors.
Without receptors to recognize the IGF-1,it doesnt matter how much you inject.
NOTHING will happen.
As dosages climb to over 50 micrograms per day,receptor downgrade increases exponentially and, from what I've observed among bodybuilders, muscle gains come to a screeching hault.

Bodybuilders will have the most sucess with IGF-1 if they follow the protocol I outlined below. REMEMBER, more isn't always better.

11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 1) 333 micrograms

2 weeks OFF

11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 2)** 333 micrograms

2 weeks OFF

11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 3)** 333 micrograms

8 weeks OFF

** The second and third cycles of IGF-1 treatment require that the two Frozen 1cc insulin syringes be defrosted, (only defrost one per cycle).
Next, inject the defrosted solution into an empty bottle.
Further dilute with 2cc bacterialstatic water. When adding the 2cc of water, use the syringe that originally held the frozen IGF-1.
This also helps to wash the syringe and ensure that no IGF-1 is stuck inside of it.

[bigtomo1]

interesting!!
when i done my first course of igf i started on 40mcg and got nothing,so had a month off then went back on this time at 80 mcg and it put me in the best shape of my life,i really cant see 11mcg doing anything,can it???

[Gear]

Possible, but one or two high dose IGF cycles are more than likely not to create that side effect. That is a major side effect that appears after many years of high dose cycles. I wouldn't worry about it if you have only done a few cycles.

As most of you know, all bodybuilders who are at the professional level have huge bellies. These guys have used drugs as such for many years and they use doses we would never think of.

Major side effects don't appear that easy.

-Gear

[jbarkley]

Ever heard of GH gut? The enlargement of the organs causes the stomach to protrude out. Just look at some pros like Ronnie coleman. That's how you'd know.

Of course, but the amount of use and the length of use are the primary factors here, also the time that he's injecting, in regards to the receptors being open, or allowing for excess flow to the sites with the highest constant receptor ie.intestines.

[goose]

Possible, but one or two high dose IGF cycles are more than likely not to create that side effect. That is a major side effect that appears after many years of high dose cycles. I wouldn't worry about it if you have only done a few cycles.

As most of you know, all bodybuilders who are at the professional level have huge bellies. These guys have used drugs as such for many years and they use doses we would never think of.

Major side effects don't appear that easy.

-Gear

Spot on.

[Captain Fantastic]

I agree with the original poster in that when I go through and IGF cycle, (always in conjunction with an AR cycle-except the 4 weeks after PCT), my stomach gets bigger. I know it is partly becuase I eat more as it increases your appetite. I have found when I go into PCT or off IGF cycle my stomach goes back down to near normal.

I've noticed this for years.

[OH REALLY]

so to run the cycle that dave gave the 3 month cycle how many bottles or whatever would i need

[OH REALLY]

looks like i would need 1mg for a 3 month cycle is that right ?
Is it ok to run with hgh?
And what should i expect from running this cycle?
thanks guys just trying to speed up..

[caladin]

looks like i would need 1mg for a 3 month cycle is that right ?
Is it ok to run with hgh?
And what should i expect from running this cycle?
thanks guys just trying to speed up..

Do people run ifg with hgh?

[Gappa]

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