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    GH Bloat, does it go away completely?

    i'm on 3IU EOD, my face randomly bloats up. this rlly bothers me alot. I read this eventually goes away. Can anyone confirm this? I know i can simply reduce salt intake, but i find that hinders my gains in the gym. I just want to stick to my regular diet, and hope the facial bloating subsides eventually. I'm 2 months in btw, started at 1iu ramping up slowly to 3.

    Do pro's stop using gh before a competition? wouldnt that large amount they take, cause LOTS of bloating? or does it just go away completely and they stay on the GH forever basically?

    last question: can anyone confirm which is better for the bloat: EOD or ED?

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    The bloatness is a common GH side effect. It's the kind of thing that comes and goes, or goes away permenantly, everyone is different. You're just going to have to get used to it.

    Changing dosing protocol can cetainly change side effects so perhaps switching to EOD may help reduce bloatness.

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    I get it too..but it eventually goes away for me

    to answer your question, I would think shooting ED (1.5 iu ED as opposed to 3 iu EOD) would promote more consistency and a faster dissipation of the sides, such as bloat or joint pain

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane
    I get it too..but it eventually goes away for me

    to answer your question, I would think shooting ED (1.5 iu ED as opposed to 3 iu EOD) would promote more consistency and a faster dissipation of the sides, such as bloat or joint pain

    cheers
    i agree. i also think 3 iu's is to low of a dose to run eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricker35910
    i agree. i also think 3 iu's is to low of a dose to run eod
    ah, i wanna run this stuff forever basically. so i figured EOD would be suitable. should i try out the ED for awhile? If 3iu EOD gives me alot of sides, should i start running 2 ED or lower? I def. wanna run a high enough dosage to see the full effects of this stuff. But not high enough to get any serious sides or screw myself over in the long run.

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    you've been doing 3 eod so start with 1.5 ed and go from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricker35910
    you've been doing 3 eod so start with 1.5 ed and go from there
    ah, thnx . ill see how that worx.

    however i dont see the logic here.

    look: 7 days (3iu eod) = 12iu. 7 days (1.5iu ed) = 10.5

    and thats without taking weekends off, which im assuming switching to ed i should be doing? so that would make the net count even lower then 10.5.

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    you're trying to get rid of the puffiness right? start low and work your way up.

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    get some caber, worked well for me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    get some caber, worked well for me.....
    ah, wat is this caber u speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    get some caber, worked well for me.....
    Really PB, I have to look more into cabergoline, I thought it was overrated. Also Ive found alot of bloat and water retention issues come from eating to many carbs to close to injection time.

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    very very interesting...

    "Sex and Cabergoline

    By David Jay Brown

    Cabergoline is a fairly new pharmaceutical that has enormous potential to aid male stamina. Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of carbergoline is that it has been found to substantially raise a man’s chances of sustaining multiple orgasms during sex. Some men on cabergoline are able to have numerous multiple orgasms in rapid succession.

    Cabergoline, which is marketed under the trade name of Dostinex, is used to treat Parkinson's disease, to prevent women producing milk when they want to stop breast feeding, and to lower prolactin levels in patients with a pituitary tumor. It is also sometimes used to help men with sexual dysfunction.

    It is cabergoline’s capacity to lower prolactin levels that makes it such a sexual wonder drug for men. Prolactin is a single-chain protein hormone, closely related to growth hormone , that stimulates the secretion of milk of women. The hormone also has the effect of reducing a man’s desire for more sex by preventing new erections. Cabergoline has been found to to minimize the effects of the hormone prolactin, which is produced by men at the point of orgasm. As a result, some subjects who tried the drug found that they were able to have multiple orgasms in rapid succession.

    In one study, 60 subjects, all healthy males, between the ages of 22 and 31, normally needed a break of 19 minutes between lovemaking sessions. However, after taking Cabergoline, they were able to have several orgasms within a few minutes. Medical psychologist Manfred Schedlowski, who was involved in the trials at Essen in Germany, said the drug raised the libido to enable the male to orgasm again more quickly.


    Schedlowski said, "We saw that prolactin rises after orgasm and then thought maybe prolactin is a negative feedback system. Subjects who took this drug had decreased prolactin levels, and reported their orgasm was better and there was a shorter refractory period. We interviewed these subjects and found they were able to have multiple orgasms in very rapid succession. This is sitting very nicely with our hypothesis that orgasms and sexual drive are steered by prolactin and dopamine in the brain."

    Cabergoline was reported to have no side effects on men during the tests, according to a paper that was published in the International Journal of Impotence Research. However, there may be a drawback. There’s evidence that the release of prolactin in the brain, which surges during orgasm, promotes the growth of new neurons in the brain--a process called neurogenesis. Researchers at the University of Cal-gary discovered that the release of prolactin spurs the growth of new brain cells in the front regions of the brain involved in smell. So Cabergoline may allow men to have multiple orgasms at the expense of less brain growth. Sounds like a tough call to me."

    less brain growth...pass

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