Hypetropin....??????????

**Nickster#1** · 09-18-2007, 02:52 PM

I recently made an inquiry to the ansomone website, and they replied saying they dont sell to usa, and that thier compound is a 192 hgh. They reccomended that I look into hypetropin. Anyone heard of this stuff???

**CYP400** · 09-18-2007, 02:55 PM

yes , was at 1 point one of the best from china , but in recent months has not been as good

**Nickster#1** · 09-18-2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by CYP400

yes , was at 1 point one of the best from china , but in recent months has not been as good

No s--t?? hhmmmmm. I can actually get this stuff for reasonable price from trusted person.. Maybe I will try a little bit. Anyone else hear anything or have experience with this hypetropin?

**NotSmall** · 09-18-2007, 03:06 PM

I think you mean hygetropin my man!

I just switched from jins to hyges after previously swearing to never go cheaper than jins again but my jins went astray and I found myself in posession of some hyge.

Its early days yet but I've got all the right sides but then I am running a higher than average dose...

**CYP400** · 09-18-2007, 03:09 PM

you will get same results with blue tops from a good source

**Nickster#1** · 09-18-2007, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

I think you mean hygetropin my man!

I just switched from jins to hyges after previously swearing to never go cheaper than jins again but my jins went astray and I found myself in posession of some hyge.

Its early days yet but I've got all the right sides but then I am running a higher than average dose...

Im pretty sure he meant hypetropin as he mentioned it several times.

**NotSmall** · 09-18-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Nickster#1

Im pretty sure he meant hypetropin as he mentioned it several times.

OK then I've never heard of it and it is most likely a knock off of hyge...

**Nickster#1** · 09-18-2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

OK then I've never heard of it and it is most likely a knock off of hyge...

Does hyge have anything to do with ansomone? Also, just curious at what your dose is?

**CYP400** · 09-18-2007, 05:05 PM

completely diff company, very surprising that they mentioned them

**NotSmall** · 09-19-2007, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Nickster#1

Does hyge have anything to do with ansomone? Also, just curious at what your dose is?

I train eod and I alternate my dose 8iu non training days, 24iu training days so it averages 16iu per day. It's Tai's fault for banging on about running 16iu ed so I thought I'd try it during my prop, NPP & dbol 5 weeker.

**Booz** · 09-19-2007, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

I train eod and I alternate my dose 8iu non training days, 24iu training days so it averages 16iu per day. It's Tai's fault for banging on about running 16iu ed so I thought I'd try it during my prop, NPP & dbol 5 weeker.

hows it going running that amount Tiny?

**NotSmall** · 09-19-2007, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Booz

hows it going running that amount Tiny?

Only been on it just over a week.

Running 8iu hyge + 8iu humalog IM split bilaterally every morning

plus 16iu hyge + 12iu humalog IM split bilaterally PWO (eod)

Before this I was running 5iu jin + 8iu humalog ed plus 10iu jin + 12iu humalog eod PWO.

Going to 8 and 16 was largely for convenience (didn't want to drop to 4 and 8 and can't be arsed using a bit from one vial and a bit from another, lol) but also cos I wanted to try a proper high end dose with my 5 week cycle, it actually works out very similar in cost to running the jin the way I was.

So far since switching I am getting numb forearms and fingers occasionally and a bit of joint pain (knees and shoulder) but nothing dramatic at all really in the way of sides but then I am running it IM and with slin which alot of people seem to agree reduces the normal sides.

My muscles feel very "full" but some of that could be the dbol or NPP I guess, who knows? I have enough hyge to run it this way for 5 weeks along with the prop, NPP & dbol and I have been on some form of gh since march so I am hoping for some pretty decent results... we shall see....

**Booz** · 09-19-2007, 02:26 AM

keep me updated please mate,am very interestead to know the results of the dosing you are using,am thinking on very similar lines myself at the moment............

**NotSmall** · 09-19-2007, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Booz

keep me updated please mate,am very interestead to know the results of the dosing you are using,am thinking on very similar lines myself at the moment............

Will do big boy!

**deadliftin00** · 09-20-2007, 08:44 AM

Bro did you find any studies supporting that kind of dosing regime for GH? From what I have gathered 24iu/day is way overdone bro. You body is releasing IGF-1 naturally in response to the GH - there is no way that it can release and regenerate the full amount 24iu would proportionally release every day. I believe this is deep into diminishing returns... I.e. you're going to exaggerate the sides but get no real added benefit.

For instance most huge guys (including a guy I know who is the top rated non-pro BB in the US) who are running serostim (the best, but regardless) will be running only 4iu / day. I can tell you there is no way if he were taking 24iu that he would be 5 times bigger. That means somewhere in there you are hitting some serious diminishing returns.

I know gh is way cheaper over in europe, but 24iu damn man. How did you decide on that dosing regime? Any studies you can point me to or just personal decision?

This is in no way meant to dog you bro... To each his own. It is actually a pretty big debate right now about max effective doses of GH so I am interested in your cycle.

**CYP400** · 09-20-2007, 08:57 AM

he only does 24iu on training days and does 8iu on non training days, this regimine has shown great success with many , but insulin must be included, guys like Author L. Rea have studied this stuff

**NotSmall** · 09-20-2007, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by deadliftin00

Bro did you find any studies supporting that kind of dosing regime for GH? From what I have gathered 24iu/day is way overdone bro. You body is releasing IGF-1 naturally in response to the GH - there is no way that it can release and regenerate the full amount 24iu would proportionally release every day. I believe this is deep into diminishing returns... I.e. you're going to exaggerate the sides but get no real added benefit.

For instance most huge guys (including a guy I know who is the top rated non-pro BB in the US) who are running serostim (the best, but regardless) will be running only 4iu / day. I can tell you there is no way if he were taking 24iu that he would be 5 times bigger. That means somewhere in there you are hitting some serious diminishing returns.

I know gh is way cheaper over in europe, but 24iu damn man. How did you decide on that dosing regime? Any studies you can point me to or just personal decision?

This is in no way meant to dog you bro... To each his own. It is actually a pretty big debate right now about max effective doses of GH so I am interested in your cycle.

Are there any legitimate studies on GH use for bodybuilding purposes?

Where are you getting your info on the max amount of IGF-1 that the body can produce?

I don't know how you found out what "most huge guys" are running but I'm fairly confident it's more than 4iu, and also 4iu serostim is equivalent to a much higher dose of anything from china, impossible to say how much exactly but maybe as much as 10iu...

My dosing regimen is based simply on what a few of the guys on the boards have done and a bit of good old experimentation really!

**deadliftin00** · 09-20-2007, 11:57 AM

don't know how you found out what "most huge guys" are running but I'm fairly confident it's more than 4iu, and also 4iu serostim is equivalent to a much higher dose of anything from china, impossible to say how much exactly but maybe as much as 10iu...

Most huge guys who I know, should have been how that was worded. And by huge guys, I mean people who are competing BBs. I found out straight from the horse's mouth.

My dosing regimen is based simply on what a few of the guys on the boards have done and a bit of good old experimentation really!

Bro that's what I was wondering. This is how everyone is dosing the stuff it seems. Everyone asking everyone else. Also, running the slin with the GH is certainly going up your effective dose as long as your IGF well isn't dry. I haven't run slin with GH yet so I can't chime on that.

Are there any legitimate studies on GH use for bodybuilding purposes?

The classic studies done with rats and AIDS patients and whatnot. I don't know of any sports medecine studies b/c it's illegal - Universities can't just juice up some test subjects.

Where are you getting your info on the max amount of IGF-1 that the body can produce?

Linear extrapolation. Dose respondance curves. There are a few around, I'm not sure they go as high as 24IU. The deal is that 4 IU will release about twice as much IGF as 2 IU, but 20IU does not release 5 times as much - just like juice. 1000mgs of test is a hell of alot better than 500 mgs, but 2000 mgs is hardly better than 1000mgs by the same margin.

I guess we're all just going to keep guessing until better data comes out

I personally run 4IU ED or EOD depending on training really just because of cash. I would be experimenting with higher doses if it was cheaper.