Is GH practical now?

**IronSheff** · 10-13-2007, 06:37 PM

As a general backround:

I'm currently 23yrs old, 6'0", 175lbs @ 8% bf. I have completed three cycles, using the following products (not necessarily all in one cycle): Test-e, Deca , Tren , Winstrol , Var, Clen , T3.

While I was bulking, my heaviest was 215lbs at around 12% bf. This was when I was in college, during the offseason, and I was able to stay on a consistant routine with a steady diet and subsequent high caloric intake. After an injury coupled with graduation and work shortly following, I allowed a steady drop in my weight, but overall a physique with which I am not displeased.

I have now been working for the past two years and my occupation demands ridiculous hrs - 100+ hr weeks are common. This being said, I've been able to still mess with some ph's and the like, but nothing that demanded the meticulous attention that gear does w/ stacking, PCT, etc because it's just not practical anymore.

With all this in mind, I've decided that Im not going to continue to use aas anymore because it required alot of my attention to stay at a solid weight - i'm an ectomorph naturally and therefore a fairly hard gainer.

Now that there is some backdrop, I wanted to know if it's practical for me to start with GH at my age in the next couple of months. My basic goal is to now just make steady gains and stay lean - and I must admit I am attracted by the healing properties and other such benefits. I find it much more practical than running aas and the price is not really a concern.

I figured that running 2iu/5 on 2 off for 6+ months would help acheive my goals.

Does this seem unreasonable?

(sorry for the long and maybe seemingly unnecessary background, but I figure the lifestyle issue may help shed some insight and ultimately lead to advice which would be most relevant)

Thanks in advance,

Sheff

**ricker35910** · 10-13-2007, 07:49 PM

i honestly think you're to young but imo

**mattosteel** · 10-13-2007, 08:25 PM

dude don't listen to any of these characters telling you you're too young. you know why they say this, cuz these people are about forty years old and no matter what you can't buy youth in a bottle like muscles. I just posted a thread on help and all they said that i was too young and too tall to compete. Again you can't buy youth(which im 22) and height(6'5). So these posts people will give won't help any. go to your supplier and ask him for anything u wanna know or your needs. Growth is a great drug and if you wanna take it, it will be the best thing you have ever done. my only advice is stack it with at least 500mgs of test a week. You won't need anything else for size and bodyfat.

**IronSheff** · 10-13-2007, 08:33 PM

Again, if I did growth, it would be growth alone.

I also know youre going to receive some heat for your post, but I appreciate your opinion, as I do anyone that comments on my inquiries.

I just ask that his post brings no flaming, as he's just stating his opinion. I just what to get some good advice out of this and dont want it to be hijacked by an argument.

Thanks for the replies and I look forward to what others have to offer.

**goin on 4T** · 10-14-2007, 09:22 AM

Well here is some advise from a 40er. If I were you and had your goals I would go with 8-10IU's 3x/week. Will give you solid gains.

**ricker35910** · 10-14-2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by mattosteel

dude don't listen to any of these characters telling you you're too young. you know why they say this, cuz these people are about forty years old and no matter what you can't buy youth in a bottle like muscles. I just posted a thread on help and all they said that i was too young and too tall to compete. Again you can't buy youth(which im 22) and height(6'5). So these posts people will give won't help any. go to your supplier and ask him for anything u wanna know or your needs. Growth is a great drug and if you wanna take it, it will be the best thing you have ever done. my only advice is stack it with at least 500mgs of test a week. You won't need anything else for size and bodyfat.

2iu's are what doctors prescribe for anti-aging, yes it will help with bf and healing but he's only 23. i'm not telling him to do this but if he was to benefit from it in only 6 months he'd have to take 6-10ui's ed 5 on 2 off imo

**Logan13** · 10-14-2007, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by mattosteel

dude don't listen to any of these characters telling you you're too young. you know why they say this, cuz these people are about forty years old and no matter what you can't buy youth in a bottle like muscles. I just posted a thread on help and all they said that i was too young and too tall to compete. Again you can't buy youth(which im 22) and height(6'5). So these posts people will give won't help any. go to your supplier and ask him for anything u wanna know or your needs. Growth is a great drug and if you wanna take it, it will be the best thing you have ever done. my only advice is stack it with at least 500mgs of test a week. You won't need anything else for size and bodyfat.

perhaps you are just too young to know any better...........

**Ironman5151** · 10-14-2007, 08:29 PM

I'm 22...I'm doing the three day a week protocol...15iu's PWO on M,W,F......working great for solid muscle gains....if your looking for fat loss, to ed injections at 6-10iu's daily....JMO

**Gear** · 10-14-2007, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by mattosteel

dude don't listen to any of these characters telling you you're too young. you know why they say this, cuz these people are about forty years old and no matter what you can't buy youth in a bottle like muscles. I just posted a thread on help and all they said that i was too young and too tall to compete. Again you can't buy youth(which im 22) and height(6'5). So these posts people will give won't help any. go to your supplier and ask him for anything u wanna know or your needs. Growth is a great drug and if you wanna take it, it will be the best thing you have ever done. my only advice is stack it with at least 500mgs of test a week. You won't need anything else for size and bodyfat.

I don't want to add more fuel to the fire as I can see where this thread is heading, but I would like to add a few comments...

First of all, not all of us here are 40 years of age, I certainly am not. Second of all, if one of our staff here tells you not to go ahead with something, they are more than likely telling you this for your own good and they are more than likely to be right.

At 22, if your growth plates have not yet fused, using HGH is a bad idea as serious side effects can occur down the track. I guess this is ok with you and you still recomend him using HGH.

Going to your supplier and asking for advice is the worst thing you can do as the supplier will more than likely want to make even more business by trying to sell you more products so I am sure his supplier will recomend using more HGH. The suppliers thinks about $$$, not your health. How about go and see a qualafied practitioner (maybe a doc) and see what he says.

HGH is certainly a good drug, so you got something right at least, however, this drug doesn't suit everybody. It certainly does not suit a 22yr old especially if the users growth plates are not yet fused.

We give quality advice, you obviously do not. Please grow up and stop these silly posts before somebody hurts themselves.

-Gear

**Renesis** · 10-15-2007, 01:01 AM

Gear what possible complications can occur from growth plates not being fused? You might grow a little bit is all I can see. Or would there be an issue with some plates being more fused than others and body limbs ending up a bit disproportioned?? I don't know much on it so this is why I ask.

**Logan13** · 10-15-2007, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Renesis

Gear what possible complications can occur from growth plates not being fused? You might grow a little bit is all I can see. Or would there be an issue with some plates being more fused than others and body limbs ending up a bit disproportioned?? I don't know much on it so this is why I ask.

unfused growth plates:
- Agromeglia from excess HGH
- Stunted growth from exogenous testosterone use. Premature closure of the epiphysial cartilage leads to a growth stunt.

**Renesis** · 10-15-2007, 01:23 AM

Hmm agromeglia huh? Not something I would want to mess with. The stunted growth I know about with test. Thanks for the info Logan.

**Gear** · 10-15-2007, 02:39 AM

You have to remember we are not supposed to be taking HGH in the first place unless it is prescribed for medical reasons. Taking GH while growth plates are unfused can make the situtaion even more complicated.

Logan thank you for providing that info.

-Gear

**Baron** · 10-15-2007, 06:59 AM

I haveto say in reply to the original poster: gh would probably be ur best bet if anything. I'd personaly save my money so I can quit the job and do a proper test, d-bol, etc, bulking cycle. No I'm not kidding, infact that's what I'm doing now. I'm saving up enough money to last me for the upcoming bulk, I plan on quitting my job next week. But if ya don't wanna quit, I find gh to be the most time effcient thing on the market. All you do is inject and the gh basically doesn't the rest.

**Ironman5151** · 10-15-2007, 08:04 AM

I'm backing up with what Gear and everyone says. HGH can too be dangerous. I went and had few x-ray to make sure my growth plates were closed. You also need to do the same before starting it....I would definitly listen to everyone on here because they know what they are talking about....

**TEST_ME!** · 10-15-2007, 08:05 AM

bro if you gonna go with gh id go to a doc like gear said to check if your plates have fused,so you dont get fvck'd up sides,and i see where you coming from with the hectic schedule and aas,but just a suggestion,maybe cycle var?at like 80mg ed 8wks on 12wks off,its not really suppressive or very toxic for your liver,you'l pick up lean hard muscle,a few lbs a cycle which i think is what you after?and a pct would be nolva 20mg ed for 3wks,basically you'd be taking tabs in the morning only.just my .02

**spywizard** · 10-15-2007, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by mattosteel

dude don't listen to any of these characters telling you you're too young. you know why they say this, cuz these people are about forty years old and no matter what you can't buy youth in a bottle like muscles. I just posted a thread on help and all they said that i was too young and too tall to compete. Again you can't buy youth(which im 22) and height(6'5). So these posts people will give won't help any. go to your supplier and ask him for anything u wanna know or your needs. Growth is a great drug and if you wanna take it, it will be the best thing you have ever done. my only advice is stack it with at least 500mgs of test a week. You won't need anything else for size and bodyfat.

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now that's hilarious.. and at 6'5".. you will never get a pro card..

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**powerliftmike** · 10-15-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

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now that's hilarious.. and at 6'5".. you will never get a pro card..

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Especially when you are a 150 lb prick that thinks he already has it all figured out.

**Seattle Junk** · 10-15-2007, 06:44 PM

Isn't youth bliss? I am the first to admit I am a very immature 38 year old. But being stubborn and trying to challange the collection of knowledge here is ignorance. I know people in their 20's that have more knowledge on AAS than most people in their 40's. But I know more responsible AAS users in their 30-50's because of plain experience. If we made a mistake in our past we will try to share that with you so you don't duplicate it.

Taking GH in your early 20's is very expensive and not necessary IMO. You have to take at least 6ius daily to see any kind of effects. more like 8-12ius daily. Your body is already producing a high level of GH, why interfere? If you are bent on doing something then use test and maybe something else like EQ with a GOOD DIET and you will see great results. The biggest downfall of young AAS users is usually a poor diet. But I don't think any user male or female needs to supp GH until their 30's.

Unless you are on your way to being a pro bodybuilder and you have the genetics (rare), financial ability and sponsership to justify high amounts of GH use in your early 20's. If you're using GH to improve your physique then you are wasting your money at such a young age. You have a sh1t load of GH naturally.