About insulin, from a personal point of view

**DiaMan** · 12-03-2007, 10:42 PM

Hello all...

Since I'm a type1 diabetic I thought I might ramble abit about what I know and have experienced. This meaning
insulin have been a part of my everyday life now and have been for the past 6months. (I'm 27yrs)

I'd like to get in touch with other diabetics that have some experience to share also regarding whatever,
feel free to pm :-) Looking to get more educated on the subject as it will always be apart of me. Hope this might
be a thread that could attract attention from others in the same situation espessialy.

Like others have said before me it's something you really do not wanna screw around with.
Healthy people with normal functioning insulin responsivnes shouldn't risk taking it for too long, before taking
a break.This is something you don't wanna be stuck with for the rest of your life

Read up on the recommended protocols on the site.

Now you won't just slip into a coma and die just like that under normal circumstances if you happend to take too much.
But yes it can indeed go very wrong under the *right circumstances*.

You would wanna avoid using it in the following scenarios:

# You plan on going and get influenced by alcohol\drugs in general the same day
# Feeling sick in your stomach, like feeling the need to puke.
# Feeling sick like having flu like symtoms

By mixing insulin and alcohol your body won't be giving you the right symtoms when your blodsugar starts to decline
below normal values, so what could happen here is that you could fall asleep at some party drunk and slip into coma
right away. A normal respons (without alcohol) would be that you wake up automatically feeling abit *wierd* and
sweaty...just have some energy tabs ready within range and lay down, it takes a few min and you'll be fine again.

Skip the insulin all together if you feel like puking or have felt like it recently. Can't risk puking up your
planned meal after a fast acting insulin shot. There would obviously be no easy way to fuel your body with carbs
anytime soon then.

Having the flu or a cold for that matter ...in this kind of situation your body is naturally producing tons of
stress hormons that affect the blodsugar by alot, which again will provoke a higher insulin respons...so put the
insulin on-hold.

So on to ramble about a few things worth knowing and thinking over before taking insulin into the equation in your
everyday life. At least its what keeps me outta trouble for most of the time. How the hormone insulin actually
works and in what way its anabolic can be looked up in the profile section of the site.

Normal blod-sugar should be 4 - 8 mmol/L. Depending on how long it's been since you've eating and what.
Plz go and see a doc asap if it reads something like 8-10mmol/L or above in the morning.
For bodybuilding purposes fast acting insulin should be used. Fast acting is shot sub-Q in the belly fat-tissue
whereas the slow-acting ones are shot sub-Q in the thigh.

Now it typically takes a few minutes for the fast acting to start working, so make sure you've got the meal
already prepared infront of you with a resonable amount of carbs. Be sure to switch off your cellphone or anything
else that might be distracting. Can't afford doing a shot then talking 20min in the phone before eating.
Start with 4IU's, monitor your blodsugar frequently.

Say you have a diet layed out that consists of 6-7 meals a day. Start by taking some insulin to the first 4 meals,
and make sure it's been at least 4 hours since your last shot before going to bed. Always check your values in
the morning, pre-workout and before bed-time when using this. Pre-workout because physical training lowers the
need for insulin, so I'd suggest to not actually take insulin shots closely to your scheduled workout routine.
Further on you will wanna wake yourself up to do tests just to make sure the first week. It takes some work and
preparation, you have to establish a baseline. Before you even start insulin you should do some tests for
at least a week, see how the diffrent things you eat effect your blodsuagar values.

It just takes some time getting used to. You have to understand whats going on with your body and what to do
if you take too much of it. Always make sure you have fast-acting carbs in places you spend alot of time at.
Like in your car, apartment, @ work and definatly where you spend the night. Always have have your
blodsugar monitor within range, so that you can quickly do a test to see where you're at. It's importante to find
out exacly what your values are when you start feeling the first symptoms of low sugar levels. As this can vary
abit from person to person.

If you happen to take too much, you will start feeling the following symptoms:

# Dizziness, shakiness, weakness
# Fast heart beat
# Faintness, chills, sweatiness
# Confusion or irritability

These symptoms gets worse by the minute, so be careful. Say you're driving a car, you would have about 5-10 minutes
from the first symtoms to occur until you really have to stop and get those carbs in.

On to some of my own exerpeinces with insulin and a Test-E based cycle following, as the profile on the site states:
"Insulin is one of the most powerful anabolic agents in the world. Used properly, it can add weight to you more
quickly than any other compound at our disposal."

And indeed it is, as for me ...I had prior to getting sick been regulary exercising for years, (doing resistance
training) Worked my way up to the stats of 6'2 tall, 195lbs with an healthy bf%. Nothing spectacular I know but
my plan was to get up to like 200+ lbs before doing a classic testE based cycle. Anyway I suddently got very sick,
so over a 4week period I lost lots of weight, at the time I got to the hospital I was down @ 175lbs. Most of my
muscle tissue were gone. I was sure it would take years to recover from that blow...to my suprise it didn't. With
proper diet and insulin medication I got back up at 195lbs just 8weeks later. After learning to deal my diabetic
condition I started a TestE cycle - 2x250mgs a\week, frontloaded with T-bol for the first 3.5weeks. Right now I'm
in week8 and pushing 220lbs. Not holding too much water I think, running 0.25 adex and 1mg finsteride daily also.
Strength is thru the roof, some strength stats right now.

Bench: 280 x 10 - 4sets
Squat: 325 x 10 - 4sets
Deadlift: 310 x 10 - 4sets

...and these feels light atm!

Best before cycle approx:

Bench: 220 x 10 - 4sets
Squat: 250 x 8 - 4sets
Deadlift: 250 x 8 - 4sets

....anyhow, guess my point in the end here is directed to other ppl in the same situation like me.
Don't let your diabetic stop you from trying to achive your goals. Whatever they are...it can be done.

**MuscleScience** · 12-03-2007, 10:45 PM

Good job man, looks good.

**Gear** · 12-04-2007, 12:06 AM