IGF-1 LR3 from Lion (ar-r)

**legobricks** · 12-28-2007, 09:07 AM

Hello all,

Just wanted to give all people who are skeptical on Lions IGF a little bit of what is going on, this is not really a log to a point. I will be posting in this thread almost every day to let everyone know how my lifts are going and the effects of the IGF that Lion sells.

For anyone that is skeptical of this product that Lion sells, DON'T BE! I ordered it last week Sunday (December 19) and got it the following Friday in the mail. So it took 4-5 days to get to my place, was I anxious....Yes. Ive heard so many great things on IGF1 that I had to try it for myself. I am running my IGF1 as follows:

Monday- Chest with light biceps...PWO inject bi-laterally 50mcgs (25mcg per side)

Tuesday- Back with light triceps...PWO inject bi-laterally 50mcgs

Wednesday- OFF

Thursday- Legs with forearms...PWO inject bi-laterally 50mcgs

Friday-Shoulders...PWO inject bi-laterally 50mcgs

Saturday-Biceps and Triceps...PWO inject bi-laterally 50mcgs

Sunday -OFF

This week (due to Christmas) I will be doing my injects Monday-Friday (plus im going to california this weekend and dont want to risk anything with the IGF). Starting next week I will fall back to my original plan. It is always recomended that a starting dose for beginners is 40mcgs per day. Doing this would give 25 days for 1mg of IGF. Another way of doing it is to use 50mcgs 5 days a week like I explained above.
Ok now for the good stuff on Lions IGF....Firstly I want to say that today after the gym will be my 5th inject and everything is going very well! Scale weight hasnt changed much (except for the normal flucuation) but I will say that my workouts are more intense in the gym. This COULD be a placebo effect to know that I am running the IGF and know what it is capable of. Also, the "skin bursting" pumps that people talk about in relation to IGF1 is true to a certain extent. While working out the pumps ARE skin bursting and insane! For instance, I workout out chest on Monday and to this day my chest is still pumped. I workout out back on Wednesday and my lats AND back has a pump still. Last night I did shoulders and it was insane almost like I was on cycle!

Once again, a lot of this oculd be a placebo effect BUT Im leaning more towards the IGF1 due to the fact that my weight in all my lifts has increased at least 5-10lbs (depending on lift, also could be more do the fact I am working legs tommorow) My rep range for the weight I was normally doing went up. Also recovery time seems to be increasing with every day on IGF.
And last but not least Im sure EVERYONE has heard of the fat loss effects from IGF. Ive heard so many newbs JUST using IGF1 for the sake of fat loss which from what I have been reading is not the purpose behind IGF1. Once again, I am only in my 5th day but without doing any cardio and just heavy weight training it seems like my muscle are becoming a little more defined. Also my abs are starting to show very well along with the obliques. The striations in chest, delts, back, and legs are all starting to become a little more visible with every day on IGF1. Have I changed my diet??? The answer to this is YES! But would I say this diet is a clean diet? HELL NO!

Not for the holidays! I am using the IGF to increase LBM not for fat loss purposes. But I do have to say with increasing my calories, protein intake, fat and carb intake I am still loosing some fat and its only 1 week in! So for everyone who is skeptical on Lions IGF or IGF in general, give it a try! Make sure that you read and research it first before jumping into it as this is not for the inexperienced user. If you dont know, ask! Thats what a lot of us are on here for, I myself research these things everyday to keep expanding my knowledge on this stuff!

Thanks!

**largerthannormal** · 12-28-2007, 09:16 AM

good post lego! im gonna have to try! should of known ud be in this section!

**legobricks** · 12-28-2007, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by largerthannormal

good post lego! im gonna have to try! should of known ud be in this section!

As usual!

Off to the lounge tho!

**Renesis** · 12-28-2007, 09:54 AM

Cool I just purchased the igf/mgf combo and am discussing on how to take it with Merc. You say the pumps are skin tearing? Shit -.- thats kinda bad Amp02 already makes it near impossible for me to bench correctly as the pumps are so strong my tris lock up and im only using half the dose! Oh well

**legobricks** · 12-28-2007, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Renesis

Cool I just purchased the igf/mgf combo and am discussing on how to take it with Merc. You say the pumps are skin tearing? Shit -.- thats kinda bad Amp02 already makes it near impossible for me to bench correctly as the pumps are so strong my tris lock up and im only using half the dose! Oh well

No worries bro, i use NO-xplode preworkout and love the skin tight pumps the combo gives me. Sure no-xplode works and gives me a great mind/muscle pump in the gym but when I added IGF to the mix it really kicked in hardcore! LOL, you may have to tone back the amp02 but still continue on whatever your taking and if you find it to be a burden or too much, just cut back onthe amp02 a bit. I am not using the MGF but def. would like to sometime in the future. Im not jumping into the other peptides quite yet, still want to keep researching and learning about there effects as well as benefits vs price.

youll notice tho that you should have a good muscle pump all day long while on the IGF. I think you will really like that combo let alone IGF by itself! Good luck and let me know how the combo works out!

**Renesis** · 12-28-2007, 08:26 PM

Yeah I will be doing a log on the MGF/IGF because it seems to be very scarce on this website. Anyway yeah I know what you mean with the all day pump. Amp02 at 5pills preworkout plus waximaize with my protein post workout have my muscles feeling full all day. Maybe I will just remove the Amp02 altogether.

**legobricks** · 12-31-2007, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Renesis

Yeah I will be doing a log on the MGF/IGF because it seems to be very scarce on this website. Anyway yeah I know what you mean with the all day pump. Amp02 at 5pills preworkout plus waximaize with my protein post workout have my muscles feeling full all day. Maybe I will just remove the Amp02 altogether.

Ill be interested in your log! ITs up to you if you want to cut the amp02. Personally id leave it in as it lets nutrients get to your muscles faster when you are done lifting and slam your protein shake. I dont think it would be that bad tho with the IGF but your doing both IGF and MGF....so try it out see how it works.

**legobricks** · 12-31-2007, 04:54 PM

Today is day 7 of my IGF1 cycle. It was chest day today and all lifts were up a few reps (did not change weight yet). Last inject was on Friday of last week so I had 2 days off and did my workout this morning (due to not being able to hit up the gym for 2 days last week). So far my dumbell flat bench went up 3 extra reps (7 reps total 95lbs dumbells) Decline up 3 reps 225 for 7 reps, and Incline bench up 4 reps (185 for 8 reps). I switched off to incline barbell from incline hammerstrength machine because I feel it wasnt doing much plus i like to shock my muscles a bit so it should build back up to 225 soon. Havent weighed myself since the start which was 191 on the scale in the nude. I probably wont weight myself until the end or possibly by the end of week 2 (1/2 way point) Tommorow is back day so I will post some lifts and stats. Chest seems to be the weakest portion on my body which sucks but im trying to bring it out as best as possible. Back and legs are def. the strongest points (more so back now) so Im trying to bring out more symmetrical look. Back day last week was crazy and that was my second injection so Im very excited to see how it goes tommorow in the gym! Oh and it doesnt hurt much at all with AA mixed in.....but i could see how pure AA injections would hurt like a b*tch!!!!

**legobricks** · 01-02-2008, 05:03 PM

Update...

Day # 10 of my IGF1 cycle and injection # 8 starts tommorow (remember 5 injects per week with 2 rest days that are NOT back to back) So far my lifts are all up in reps and in lbs. Not much but def. a noticable change. Intensity, mental focus are really great so far but feeling lethargic most of the time) maybe do to weird sleeping pattern. other then that the other thing that is up and HUGE is my libido! Maybe its an effect from the creatine but before I started IGF1 it was nowhere this big of an increase.

Anyways im also feeling very pumped every day, even on off days. Notice the shirts are getting a real tight fit on me as it was like my last cycle of test and EQ. Very hard and getting more defined in all areas of the body. Diet is basically a bulking diet but trying to keep simple sugar out or minimal and fats low. Lots of protein and carbohydrates. But once again hats off to lion for a superb product! I will weigh myself at the end of the week (id imagine it may be around the same weight becuase I flucuate a lot every day with weight and 1-2lbs increase in LBM wouldnt really be noticable.) But so far I am liking the IGF1 a lot! If this cycle goes well i will def. continue it for the future. I guess I am trying to see if IGF1 will live up to the hype for my body as eveyrone is different.

**facile** · 01-02-2008, 05:13 PM

I am very interested in IGF, thanks for the info, I will be checking back !

**legobricks** · 01-02-2008, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by facile

I am very interested in IGF, thanks for the info, I will be checking back !

The more I read up on it the more I became interested in the things it does. I would def. give it a go to try it out bro! I like trying new things to see their effects and how they work on your body and muscle growth. So far like I have stated I feel pumped all day every day on this stuff. Excited to see the end results as well as future cycle results!

**irishreps13** · 01-03-2008, 08:29 PM

whats is the best size needle in your opinion to use for igf-1 thanks

**Elexecution** · 01-04-2008, 04:15 AM

ARR apparently doesn't have IGF-LR3? But only the less potent MGF... Will they ever get LR3 in stock?

**Renesis** · 01-04-2008, 06:42 AM

Irishreps. the .5cc half inch slin pins are best.
Elexecution: Lion is now out of the IGF-LR3. It was a limited offer only. He might have some later on in the year, but who knows.

**legobricks** · 01-04-2008, 11:59 AM

I use 1cc 29g slin pins and those work great too. Its all on how you want to reconstitute it and how much you need to dose out. That sucks that Lion is out of IGF tho

**legobricks** · 01-04-2008, 12:07 PM

Update:

Yesterday was leg day and so far strength is thru the roof! Free squat is back up to 315 for 6 deep reps. Leg press back up to 900 for 5 reps, leg extentions are crazy (knees not hurting anymore) forearms are def. getting bigger in size and using more weight. It seems as tho muscle groups are becoming more defined and bigger which is def. gettin me excited! I am becoming more lethargic BUT could be due to the weird sleeping pattern still. My injection after my workout I did in my lats again (same as back day) I feel that my legs are def. one of my strong points and think that if there is any correlation with IGF1 and site growth that my legs would overtake the rest of my body and I don't want that happening. I was however doing pullups between each leg exercise and felt 100% recovered from tuesdays back day. Tonight is shoulders so we will see how it goes. More updates to come!

**RBIZZY** · 01-04-2008, 02:15 PM

Keep Us Updated... Great Log So Far Lego!

**Timm1704** · 01-04-2008, 04:05 PM

how long are you planning to keep running the IGF? or is a "wait and see" approach?

**legobricks** · 01-06-2008, 05:58 PM

Im going to run the IGF for a total of 4 weeks. 5days on 2days off (see above on how I split that) so itll be a total of 20 days at 50mcgs per day. It was either that or 40mcg everyday for 28days. So far im liking the results and Id seriuosly recomend people to try it who are interested. Def. good stuff here and Lion puts out a great product! Typical running of IGF is 4weeks on 4 weeks off. From what ive been reading people even do 50days on 50days off. Apparently anymore and its really non-beneficial to you.

**Renesis** · 01-07-2008, 01:56 PM

Nice info lego. Now if my damn order would just get here already -.-

**legobricks** · 01-07-2008, 05:00 PM

Update:

Chest day today, starting 3rd week of IGF cycle. Injection #11 today. Pumps were f'ing amazing! Energy and focus thru the roof, and all lifts are up in weight and reps. Had a spotter today which was cool so I went heavier and for more reps but all in all I could def. feel that my strength was increasing. My roomates even told me that Im really looking swole all over. My back is getting wider, shoulders becoming more defined and bigger as well as arms. Biceps now have this wicked nice peak to them which wasnt there before cycle. Def. notcing this all over which makes me feel that its truly a great product! My buddy from back home is also running this (he's been lifting for ever and is a huge dude) and even he told me that he is looking a bit "cartoonish" in the gym! It was funny because him and I both got this as a Christmas present.

**abombing** · 01-08-2008, 09:03 AM

I am so tempted to get some, especially after reading your thread. I know of another reputable site that is still carrying it, but it's expensive for a 4-5 week cycle. I guess length of time isn't what's important, it's results.

**darr** · 01-08-2008, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by legobricks

Update:

Chest day today, starting 3rd week of IGF cycle. Injection #11 today. Pumps were f'ing amazing! Energy and focus thru the roof, and all lifts are up in weight and reps. Had a spotter today which was cool so I went heavier and for more reps but all in all I could def. feel that my strength was increasing. My roomates even told me that Im really looking swole all over. My back is getting wider, shoulders becoming more defined and bigger as well as arms. Biceps now have this wicked nice peak to them which wasnt there before cycle. Def. notcing this all over which makes me feel that its truly a great product! My buddy from back home is also running this (he's been lifting for ever and is a huge dude) and even he told me that he is looking a bit "cartoonish" in the gym! It was funny because him and I both got this as a Christmas present.

IM very interested in runing it my self so keep us up dated bro!

**legobricks** · 01-08-2008, 05:12 PM

Update:

WOW! That is all I have to say. I love this stuff! Today is 2nd day into my 3rd week so injection #12 at 50mcg split bi-laterally. It was insane today at the gym and that is an understatement. All lifts are still climbing in reps and weight! For instance, all pullups are becoming so easy as I can do so much more. Normally i would start out back day with 3 sets of 10 pullups wide grip and only using bodyweight. Now I climbed up to doing 3 sets of 10 again half way thru my workout. Also, bent over dumbell rows climbed up to 115 for 5 reps. Before I was only doing 110 for 5 reps so def. an increase there. I also love using the hammerstrength machince for rows and I forget the exact name of it. But reps are all up in that. Normally I was doing 3 plates on each side working 1 side at a time for like possibly 4 reps (end of workout so pretty tired) Today I managed to pull of 10 nice deep controlled reps. hahaha The grunting and weird faces made people stare which was funny. But other then that all weights have gone up! The pump feeling is there all day long every day, even on off days. Afterwards went home hit the lats with the IGF, threw back my PWO shake and felt great! Def. notice that im getting bigger in all portions of my body. Diet is up as a lean bulk and def. working. I was natty bulking before I started the IGF and cut the cals back and increased protein and am def. noticing an increase in mass so I can def. contribute a lot to IGF. Also the fat is really not being added on. Usually during natty bulking Ill put on some BF but it seems like im actually loosing abit of BF right now which is def. a plus!

**Renesis** · 01-08-2008, 06:23 PM

Contacted Lion and he said it is on the way if not he will reship. I am so damn excited about this especially after reading that last post. This stuff can't come soon enough!!!

**legobricks** · 01-08-2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Renesis

Contacted Lion and he said it is on the way if not he will reship. I am so damn excited about this especially after reading that last post. This stuff can't come soon enough!!!

Well im happy for ya! I hope it does come soon for you becuase im sure youll be just as happy as I am! I started noticing it the first week...granted it might have been placebo affect but who knows! All I know is that this stuff rocks and my hats off to Lion! Couple htings I did want to mention is Libido is thru the roof and acne is up just a bit. I dont know if this is from the IGF directly or not but so far im liking everything about this cycle! Def. post when you get the IGF Renesis and let us know how it goes for you too! I don't think there are many logs on here for IGF and how it has worked for others.

**legobricks** · 01-08-2008, 06:39 PM

There is also a new product out called IGF2. Not sure what it does but it is supposed to be better then IGF1. If anyone wants to buy it for me, ill be sure to be the guinea pig and post a log on that (i think it would be the first)

**IntenseAthlete** · 01-08-2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by legobricks

Well im happy for ya! I hope it does come soon for you becuase im sure youll be just as happy as I am! I started noticing it the first week...granted it might have been placebo affect but who knows! All I know is that this stuff rocks and my hats off to Lion! Couple htings I did want to mention is Libido is thru the roof and acne is up just a bit. I dont know if this is from the IGF directly or not but so far im liking everything about this cycle! Def. post when you get the IGF Renesis and let us know how it goes for you too! I don't think there are many logs on here for IGF and how it has worked for others.

Lego,

I have found IGF to clear my skin......nice log Lego!

**legobricks** · 01-08-2008, 10:33 PM

Yeah skin def. seems softer, feels better but i did notice an increase in a bit of acne (nothing bad at all) more so on my chest than anything (possibly becuase of hair growth and me not taking the time to shave all the time could result in ingrown hairs which suck!) So far so good, i love this stuff! Im going to run another IGF cycle right before I run a deca test and dbol cycle so we will see how I react on that...... It will be cool cus ill run the IGF right until i start with my first inject and tab of dbol. Should def. be a cool cycle and I am stoked! I still am amazed at the effects of this peptide and how it reacts with ones body! So far what I have gained and how my body is transforming is just very weird. Although subtle changes, def ones that I notice! I just cant believe the peaks in the biceps compared to before I started the IGF, and thats just the start of it! Man I could go on and on about this! LOL!

**Timm1704** · 01-09-2008, 05:33 AM

stuff sounds great, have been thinking of running this for awhile, didnt realise the results could be so profound! Are you injecting this into the muscle or fat?

**legobricks** · 01-09-2008, 05:42 PM

Intramuscular injections with IGF! not Sub-q. So your best bet is to inject into real lean areas of your body obviously avoiding stomach area (commonly used for sub q) So you can inejct IM into your delts, pecs, lats, traps, tris, bis (ive done bi's and its not bad at all!) Ive even heard of forearm inejctions but i tend to stay away....i dont relaly think there is enough muscle in that area. Calve injections also work but heard its painful...dont know if IGF would be painful there or not. Quads will work apparently but I havent hit them up as of yet. Id stay away from glutes unless you are extremely lean due to the fact that the needle used is a insulin syringe becuase your injection a very small amount.

**SidewayZ** · 01-13-2008, 02:46 PM

How much weight have you put on?

**realmafia** · 01-13-2008, 09:09 PM

Legobricks, just wondering what part of bicep you pinning? Im worried bout veins or nerves. You have motivated me, Thanks.

**darkseed** · 01-14-2008, 08:57 AM

hey LEGO!! how that IGF working for you? i was thinking about switching to that instead of taking Clen .......

**Renesis** · 01-14-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by darkseed

hey LEGO!! how that IGF working for you? i was thinking about switching to that instead of taking Clen.......

What? why? Both those two do totally different things.

**Timm1704** · 01-14-2008, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Renesis

What? why? Both those two do totally different things.

lol and the price difference is drastic aswell

**legobricks** · 01-14-2008, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Renesis

What? why? Both those two do totally different things.

LOL! Yeah that is true. Clen is basically a fat loss supplement. I believe it is a beta2 agonist which simulates your adrenaline or something like that. IGF is way different. And as stated before IGF will not produce fat loss. Granted its easier to put on muscle then fat during your IGF cycle you will still add fat if your diet isnt clean. I only dirty bulked for a week, cut me some slack.

Anyways, IGF does harden you up and adds a couple lbs of LBM but to me not that noticable on the scale. Its more noticable visibly IMO. This is week 4 of my cycle

and ill just let everyone know that its been a great ride these 4 weeks. Still feel pumped in the gym and out with a def. increase in strength and size. Chest day today and the start of week 4 and everything still seems to be climbing slowly but surely! One thing I have noticed is small bruises on the injection sites which didnt seem to happen before I added the acetic acid. Nothing major at all, just noticed this and I believe it has to do with the AA I added.

**legobricks** · 01-14-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by realmafia

Legobricks, just wondering what part of bicep you pinning? Im worried bout veins or nerves. You have motivated me, Thanks.

Pinning the head of the bicep. Its kind of a broad explanation but look at the head of the muscle (middle) and pin. there is a big vein, artery, whatever it is that runs down the middle of your bicep so avoid that. the pin is only 1/2inch so doesnt go in that far. Make sure to aspirate as well.

**legobricks** · 01-14-2008, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Timm1704

lol and the price difference is drastic aswell

Very different!

**legobricks** · 01-14-2008, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by SidewayZ

How much weight have you put on?

Morning weight dry was 189 when started. Now I am up to 192ish. My weight varys so much its not even funny. I honestly look more at strength, vascularity, size, symmetry, and defanition in the muscles. These are just some things my roomated have noticed... Back is def. wider and the muscles seem harder, the bicep peak is showing greatly and is also bigger, my delts def. have more striations in them and the rear delt is way more pronounced then b4 IGF cycle, chest seems to have protruded more as well as more striations. Legs def. grew a bit. Its all on how you look at yourself in the mirror and how others see you. Oh and my traps have great symmetry to them. LOL, i like looking at my traps a lot now.