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    productive is offline New Member
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    hgh first timer

    hi people,

    right...i'm just coming to the end of my cycle which consisted of:

    week 1-8 500mg sust

    week 1-8 600mg eq

    week 8-12 tbol 60mg ed.

    still taking tbol at the moment waiting for the ester to clear then on to my pct which will be novla clomid and 2 shots of hcg at 1500 iu per shot (ive also been running hcg throughout at 500iu e3d).

    ok so the gh, i have 400 iu on hand at the moment with the views to get another 400iu.

    im thinking of running hgh from the start of my pct which lasts 21 days.

    after my pct ill up the dose of hgh from 2 iu to 4iu for around 14 weeks then i can start a new steroid cycle which will be:

    week 1-8 test cyp 400mg

    week 1-8 deca at 400mg.

    so this im hopeing will give the hgh some time to work and then ill introduce the steroid cycle.

    my questions are:

    1) how would i best take my hgh? sub q, im?

    2) will i need to supplement with t3?

    3) am or pm or split shots?

    4) do i need to be careful with timing of carbs around the hgh injection even if i supplement with t3?

    5) what would you change?

    6) am i to young?

    i know theres alot of q's here, but would greatly appreciate any info given.

    i'm 13 stone 8lb at the moment would be guessing i will hit 13st 12 with 3 weeks left to go on the tbol maybe more who knows...been training for 5 years solid and i'm........................24!

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    well how old r u?? u say young how young?
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    i'm 24.

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    Answers as follows

    1. SQ
    2. No
    3. Up to 4IU AM is ok, higher than that split into two shots a day AM and PM
    4. Yes dont eat carbs for an hour after the shot
    5. Be carefull how quickly you up the dose, take 2 IUs for at least 4 weeks before you increase.
    6. In my opinion yes

    I would also like to comment on your second cycle. I would run it for at least 12 weeks to get the most out of the Test E and up the dose to 500mg a week. Run the Deca for 10 weeks only at 400mg a week.

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    thanks for the info, yea i agree on what you say with the cycle. i normally run 10 weekers but have been experimenting with 6-8 weekers as of lately which have worked really well.

    i was pretty sure id get people saying im to young for the hgh the only reason i thought about it was to aid in keeping gains while off, or even maybe make some!

    i normally do very well in maintaining mass and strength after pct but was just looking for that somethink extra.

    i still have the kits staring at me, and we all know what normally happens!

    i was considering running it like i mentioned before just to see if i responded well to it.

    what would you say someone older then myself would benefit from it that i wouldnt?

    again thanks for the replys people, keep them coming.

    edit* just realised that kale has answered everything! top stuff thankyou, i would rep you if i knew how to do it!

    kale could i ask at what age you started using hgh and for what reasons? this applies to everyone who would be kind enough to answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by productive View Post
    thanks for the info, yea i agree on what you say with the cycle. i normally run 10 weekers but have been experimenting with 6-8 weekers as of lately which have worked really well.

    i was pretty sure id get people saying im to young for the hgh the only reason i thought about it was to aid in keeping gains while off, or even maybe make some!

    i normally do very well in maintaining mass and strength after pct but was just looking for that somethink extra.

    i still have the kits staring at me, and we all know what normally happens!

    i was considering running it like i mentioned before just to see if i responded well to it.

    what would you say someone older then myself would benefit from it that i wouldnt?

    again thanks for the replys people, keep them coming.

    edit* just realised that kale has answered everything! top stuff thankyou, i would rep you if i knew how to do it!

    kale could i ask at what age you started using hgh and for what reasons? this applies to everyone who would be kind enough to answer.
    51 !!!!!!!! Reasons are obvious, slow old age

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    No point in starting HGH at the beginning of your PCT. What you should have done is started HGH before your AAS cycle and then continued using it through PCT, that's probably the most effective way if using HGH.

    Take your HGH sub-q, but if you experience red welts then shoot it IM. You are better of taking T4 with your HGH. If you take anymore than 4IU I would split the dose. Try and avoid carbohydrates around injection time and yes you are still young for HGH.

    I haven't even read other membe's replies to this thread so I hope my answers weren't just a repeat.

    -Gear

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    thanks for the reply gear.

    would it still not be worth running the hgh now? as in 14-16 weeks im going bk on a cycle, this way i could see how i react to the hgh alone and also further down the line when on cycle.

    its either that or my older brother will have the most expensive birthday present ever! haha!


    it really does look like i would be better of using hgh later on in life.

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    If you are going to do another AAS cycle then go ahead and start your HGH now, just make sure you don't finish your HGH cycle before your AAS cycle.

    -Gear

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    i wondered about using hgh. but todau with everything goin on. its hard to get a hold of.

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