HGH questions I would love some advice on

**Rayna** · 02-14-2008, 12:57 AM

Hello. I am looking for some answers on HGH if you could help me. First I must say that I appreciate any feedback I am given on this as I am new to it. I have done a lot of research on the questions I am going to ask and the biggest frustration is that there is so many different answers. I am no longer sure what is right and I just want to make sure I am doing the correct thing because it is not cheap. I am a 30 yr old female from BC Canada. I am VERY active and have been weight training for 3 years now. I do have very good muscle mass but wouldn’t mind a bit more. Mostly I am looking to trim up and tone my stubborn midsection. One other thing is, I do an hour of cardio a day 6 days a week and it’s taking a toll on me, I’m not sure if HGH can help this but I am hoping so. I wouldn’t like to stay on HGH long term, just between 4-6months (whatever is most advised) so I hope to do this right the first time. My questions are:
1) I am familiar with Jintropin from GenSci, I have seen and heard tons of feedback that this is a legit company to order from and a great product. Unfortunately, I believe because I am in Canada, I only happen to have access, at this time, to a brand of Somatropin 191aa from a company called HCG hardcoregrowth. *** EDITED *** is the website if you could or would like to see what I am referring to. They ship within Canada so I don’t even know if that is normal for HGH. I was wondering if anyone has heard of this company, is there anyway I can know if this product is a scam or not? Any feedback at all on this would be good. I know it’s easier just to say not to use it but I have no other means to any other brand at this time.
2) With regards to using HGH for myself, am I using to much by using 4iu a day (divided into 2)? This is of course what I have read is best to see results as far as muscle gains and fat loss. And most of all I would love to hear opinions on if one should take HGH on a daily basis, or every second day, or have weekends off.
3) I hear it’s best to divide up into 2iu twice a day. My mornings consist of an hour of cardio before my first meal, should I take the morning dose before the cardio or after the cardio and before eating? Will eating right after affect HGH? The later dose I now read shouldn’t be taken right before bed so when in afternoon is the best time? I usually eat at 4, weight train from 5-630 then eat last meal at 7. I am so confused as to when to fit this one in because of sleep, meals, and weight training.
4) Will taking HGH for a cycle of about 6 months, 4 iu day, change my natural production of HGH when I stop taking it? Basically is this going to mess something up and require me to be dependent on HGH to keep a ripped look. Haha.
5) Last but not least, Ive read to keep the product out of the light. Now is this in general or very specific. Because in the fridge is where I keep it so it’s mostly in the dark but it does see light everytime door is opened, plus it is taken into light when I fill syringe and inject, and also when I mix it. Should I keep it out of all sources of light like those or is that small amount okay? (really none of the above matters if I’m using a bunk product.. so again any help on hardcoregrowths product would be so appreciated)
Thank you so much! I know this is long but I would love to hear your advice on this. Thank you again.

(NO SOURCES IN THE OPEN -Gear)

**olr77** · 02-14-2008, 01:13 AM

Didn't really care for it at all... I think its just generic GH from china with a fancy label stuck on it. And i think that as far as light goes it only refers to sunlight exposure so you are safe with fridge light. Don't cut corners... get a quality GH... it is going to cost more but you are putting it in your body and you are worth it.

**legobricks** · 02-14-2008, 01:13 AM

Welcome to the board.

Please take the to read the forum rules for the board. There is no open discussion in regards to sources so please edit the link out of your post. Once you have enough posts and enough time here you can PM a willing mod or vet to check a source for you, this can be found in their signature under each of their posts. Seems like you have lots of questions but it also looks like you have done some research.

**Gear** · 02-14-2008, 01:17 AM

Thanks lego.

-Gear

**legobricks** · 02-14-2008, 01:18 AM

No problem! I should be in bed tho.....

**notatallafreak** · 02-14-2008, 01:28 AM

question 4 is interesting whats the answer (i dont think it will)

**Gear** · 02-14-2008, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rayna

Hello. I am looking for some answers on HGH if you could help me. First I must say that I appreciate any feedback I am given on this as I am new to it. I have done a lot of research on the questions I am going to ask and the biggest frustration is that there is so many different answers. I am no longer sure what is right and I just want to make sure I am doing the correct thing because it is not cheap. I am a 30 yr old female from BC Canada. I am VERY active and have been weight training for 3 years now. I do have very good muscle mass but wouldn’t mind a bit more. Mostly I am looking to trim up and tone my stubborn midsection. One other thing is, I do an hour of cardio a day 6 days a week and it’s taking a toll on me, I’m not sure if HGH can help this but I am hoping so. I wouldn’t like to stay on HGH long term, just between 4-6months (whatever is most advised) so I hope to do this right the first time. My questions are:
1) I am familiar with Jintropin from GenSci, I have seen and heard tons of feedback that this is a legit company to order from and a great product. Unfortunately, I believe because I am in Canada, I only happen to have access, at this time, to a brand of Somatropin 191aa from a company called HCG hardcoregrowth. *** EDITED *** is the website if you could or would like to see what I am referring to. They ship within Canada so I don’t even know if that is normal for HGH. I was wondering if anyone has heard of this company, is there anyway I can know if this product is a scam or not? Any feedback at all on this would be good. I know it’s easier just to say not to use it but I have no other means to any other brand at this time.
2) With regards to using HGH for myself, am I using to much by using 4iu a day (divided into 2)? This is of course what I have read is best to see results as far as muscle gains and fat loss. And most of all I would love to hear opinions on if one should take HGH on a daily basis, or every second day, or have weekends off.
3) I hear it’s best to divide up into 2iu twice a day. My mornings consist of an hour of cardio before my first meal, should I take the morning dose before the cardio or after the cardio and before eating? Will eating right after affect HGH? The later dose I now read shouldn’t be taken right before bed so when in afternoon is the best time? I usually eat at 4, weight train from 5-630 then eat last meal at 7. I am so confused as to when to fit this one in because of sleep, meals, and weight training.
4) Will taking HGH for a cycle of about 6 months, 4 iu day, change my natural production of HGH when I stop taking it? Basically is this going to mess something up and require me to be dependent on HGH to keep a ripped look. Haha.
5) Last but not least, Ive read to keep the product out of the light. Now is this in general or very specific. Because in the fridge is where I keep it so it’s mostly in the dark but it does see light everytime door is opened, plus it is taken into light when I fill syringe and inject, and also when I mix it. Should I keep it out of all sources of light like those or is that small amount okay? (really none of the above matters if I’m using a bunk product.. so again any help on hardcoregrowths product would be so appreciated)
Thank you so much! I know this is long but I would love to hear your advice on this. Thank you again.

(NO SOURCES IN THE OPEN -Gear)

Hi and welcome to the board. Have you tried to the get access to the female forum? If not, go to the new members forum and ask for access there.

If you have been cardioing and eating well for a while but feel like your results have slowed down then HGH may certainly be able to give you that boost you're looking for.

I have heard of that site before as there has been quite a few queries about it recently, however I canot tell you if they are legit. If I happent to come across anymore info about it I'll let you know.

As for doses, if you have never used HGH before then I would defenitely start on a lower dose to avoid sudden side effects, and being a female that means start on about 1.5 - 2IU p/day. That much HGH should be enough for fat loss, however if you are looking at building muscle then I suggest you take about 3 - 4IU per day. I believe 4IU p/day is the absolute max you will need for muscle gains. Keep in mind that HGH will deliver fat loss benefits a lot quiker than muscle gains. Muscle gains with HGH really take a while to arrive and if you are not taking any AAS then it could take even longer to achieve a bit of muscle from HGH. Having said that, I would use HGH for a minimum of 6 months if you want to see some muscle at the end of your cycle.

Using HGH 5 days ON 2 days OFF has been proven to work just as well as using HGH ED or 6/1 so I would stick with cycling HGH 5/2.

When it comes to HGH use, it's actually best if you only have 1 injection per day because the more injections you have throughout the day the more of a chance there will be of interrupting your natural production. However, for the ones who take higher doses (5IU+), they have no choice but to split up their dose into multiple doses per day in order to avoid absorption issues. You shouldn't have this problem since you won't be taking more than 4IU p/day, and 4IU in shot is fine. Take your HGH as soon as you wake up in the morning.

I've never come across anyone who has had any issues once discontiuning the use of HGH. One thing you must watch out for is your blood glucose as HGH seems to play around with that a fair bit.

Light or dark, it doesn't matter as long as your HGH has been kept at the right temp.

I would try and gain access to the female forum as I am sure you would love to hear what the rest of the females there have to say about this.

All the best.

-Gear

**Rayna** · 02-14-2008, 10:04 AM

I did go to the female forum, I am just waiting to be granted acsess, they said it sometimes takes 48hours. I will look into what I find there. If you do hear anymore on that brand I would much appreciate any info. One last thing on your reply to dosing. You mentioned 5 days on and 2 off works well. Would those 2 days off be better taken together or could they be split, say 1 day off tue and 1 day off fri for example?

**Rayna** · 02-14-2008, 10:10 AM

One last thing I forgot.. is there anyway I can test a brand to see if it is HGH or not? I have read on using a pregnancy test. Is this correct and if so how do I go about it? How much do I need to test with? thank you again!!

**Gear** · 02-14-2008, 10:16 AM

When taking days off, take both days off in a row.

There is no way to test HGH unless it is tested at a lab. You can do the pregnancy test to test if it is HCG (as many scammers sell HCG as HGH), but just because it doesn't show up as not HCG it doesn't necessaraly mean it is HGH. You are best of ensuring you supplier is legit and has a good rep. You can do that via us by contacting a MOD such as myself and I'll see how much info I can dig up for you.

If it takes longer than 48hrs to get into the female forum, do keep in mind that it can sometimes take up to a week to be granted access. These are standard procedures.

-Gear

**Rayna** · 02-14-2008, 10:22 AM

I appreciate your help. I just checked and was granted access already to the female forum, must be lucky

Since I'm new I'm not sure when it's appropriate to ask an MOD to look into that supplier for me so I will do as much research myself as I can and if you do come across any information that would be great. thank you.

**Gear** · 02-14-2008, 10:42 AM

You need a minimum of 25 posts to PM any members including MODS.

-Gear

**Rayna** · 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Gear

When taking days off, take both days off in a row.

There is no way to test HGH unless it is tested at a lab. You can do the pregnancy test to test if it is HCG (as many scammers sell HCG as HGH), but just because it doesn't show up as not HCG it doesn't necessaraly mean it is HGH. You are best of ensuring you supplier is legit and has a good rep. You can do that via us by contacting a MOD such as myself and I'll see how much info I can dig up for you.

If it takes longer than 48hrs to get into the female forum, do keep in mind that it can sometimes take up to a week to be granted access. These are standard procedures.

-Gear

Well tried a pregnancy test. Results came out negative so atleast I know it's not HCG.

**Gear** · 02-20-2008, 07:54 AM

That's always good to know, good stuff.

-Gear

**The Major** · 02-26-2008, 08:01 PM

Rayna, I started the same stuff. Did you find out any more about it? From what I have found out it is OK and my source is respected. If you have found otherwise let me know please. TIA

**The Major** · 02-26-2008, 08:02 PM

or if anyone else has had experience with this product, please let me know. It would be greatly appreciated.

**Rayna** · 02-27-2008, 07:14 AM

I haven't found out anymore. I was hoping to. I did do a pregnancy test to see if it may be HCG but it came out negative so that is good. Still I was hoping to hear more feedback. I would like to know the quality of it and that is with hope that it is actually HGH. It just seems funny not to hear much about this company or anyone that has had any results from it. Of course it is the only thing that I can get at this time (waaa I miss Jintropin) so I feel stuck. If you do hear anything more please let me know.

**The Major** · 03-01-2008, 08:17 AM

Thanks for the reply Rayna. I havent found out much more either. I have done a ton of research and havent found anything "bad", so thats good. I also know a few people i trust at the club using it who say its ok. So that was enough for me. The thing I dont know is how it stacks up to the brand names.

**Nickster#1** · 03-01-2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Gear

Hi and welcome to the board. Have you tried to the get access to the female forum? If not, go to the new members forum and ask for access there.

If you have been cardioing and eating well for a while but feel like your results have slowed down then HGH may certainly be able to give you that boost you're looking for.

I have heard of that site before as there has been quite a few queries about it recently, however I canot tell you if they are legit. If I happent to come across anymore info about it I'll let you know.

As for doses, if you have never used HGH before then I would defenitely start on a lower dose to avoid sudden side effects, and being a female that means start on about 1.5 - 2IU p/day. That much HGH should be enough for fat loss, however if you are looking at building muscle then I suggest you take about 3 - 4IU per day. I believe 4IU p/day is the absolute max you will need for muscle gains. Keep in mind that HGH will deliver fat loss benefits a lot quiker than muscle gains. Muscle gains with HGH really take a while to arrive and if you are not taking any AAS then it could take even longer to achieve a bit of muscle from HGH. Having said that, I would use HGH for a minimum of 6 months if you want to see some muscle at the end of your cycle.

Using HGH 5 days ON 2 days OFF has been proven to work just as well as using HGH ED or 6/1 so I would stick with cycling HGH 5/2.

When it comes to HGH use, it's actually best if you only have 1 injection per day because the more injections you have throughout the day the more of a chance there will be of interrupting your natural production. However, for the ones who take higher doses (5IU+), they have no choice but to split up their dose into multiple doses per day in order to avoid absorption issues. You shouldn't have this problem since you won't be taking more than 4IU p/day, and 4IU in shot is fine. Take your HGH as soon as you wake up in the morning.

I've never come across anyone who has had any issues once discontiuning the use of HGH. One thing you must watch out for is your blood glucose as HGH seems to play around with that a fair bit.

Light or dark, it doesn't matter as long as your HGH has been kept at the right temp.

I would try and gain access to the female forum as I am sure you would love to hear what the rest of the females there have to say about this.

All the best.

-Gear

Ya, what gear said. You will love gh as it makes you feel great. And if you do cardio daily, you will see some fat loss, no dought. Welcome to the board. I am off to work to do some radiology, and take pics of people bones. hopefully, I will get some narly snowboard accident with a broken femur. Or a hip will do. I love my patients, but x-raying broken bones makes me feel like I am earning my money, and its fun, hehe.
See ya

**Rayna** · 03-01-2008, 03:13 PM

exactly what I would like to know

**GORILA-UNIT** · 03-20-2008, 09:29 PM

i've recently got 6kits of this stuff, i trust my source so it should b all good. can u update us on ur results

**Rayna** · 03-21-2008, 11:58 AM

I will. I have used almost one kit so far. All I can say, so far, is that I don't feel the same effects as I did when I was using jintropin (which I unfortunately ran out of) I don't feel anything negative but I could tell with jintropin that I was alot more sleepy, slept very deep and maybe it was only in my head but I felt on jintropin a happier, more powerful feeling if that makes any sense. Anyways I don't feel anything on this stuff but hey that doesn't mean it isn't working. I think it's fine I only worry that it may be of poor quality, and hey it isn't cheap.