IGF reconstitution put to rest

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-16-2008, 02:46 PM

I've read back and forth about reconstituting IGF and mine is supposed to be here next week. My question is I've read that AA and BA are used for long term use and BW is used for short term use. Ok got that then I also read not to use more than 2ml of AA as it degrades the peptide.

With that being said here what I take from this reconstitution thing.

Tell me if this method would work. Reconstitute with the AA or BA. Draw up dose amount. say 50mcg and then draw up the BW in the syringe to lessen the pain.

Would that work or could I just shoot w/o the BW. I ask that because AA degrades tissue after prolonged usage.

**Lariat51** · 02-16-2008, 03:25 PM

Actually, that has been discused on this board and many others, and there is absolutly nothing wrong with this method. Good Luck

K~

**N4cer** · 02-16-2008, 03:26 PM

BA will also cause tissue necrosis. This is why you reconstitute with AA if it's Chinese LR3 (the low quality keeps it from dissolving in BA), or if it's GroPep you can use AA or BA. Then fill pin with NaCl water. I'm not sure if the BA in the BAW will cause issues, since the Chinese I had turned to gel when reconstituting with BA.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-16-2008, 03:34 PM

Thanx I just wasn't sure, but as much as it costs nowadays even from ARR it should be of good quality. the stuff I got is made in the USA, so I"m sure it'll work just fine I just wasn't sure as to the exact methodology

**N4cer** · 02-16-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by jaysunderstudy

Thanx I just wasn't sure, but as much as it costs nowadays even from ARR it should be of good quality. the stuff I got is made in the USA, so I"m sure it'll work just fine I just wasn't sure as to the exact methodology

Youre getting robbed then. There is no American company producing LR3.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-16-2008, 07:32 PM

just sent you a pm N4cer

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-17-2008, 08:57 PM

I give up I can't find any acetic acid in the concentration I'm looking for, I think I'm just gonna use Nacl and just go with that.

**N4cer** · 02-17-2008, 10:07 PM

You should buy some and make it into the concentration that you want.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-17-2008, 11:26 PM

yeah but assuming you buy it in its concentrated form what do you add to dilute it with?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 02-18-2008, 12:20 AM

its all about the PH of the solution. use AA at 12% AA and the rest distilled water. this will give the correct PH, If you cant get AA then use white vinegar and filter it.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-18-2008, 12:27 AM

Thats all you do is just filter it, just the white vinigar? You dont have to add in distilled water to the vinegar? I mean we have some around. Basically just white vinegar and filter with a syringe filter is that correct?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 02-18-2008, 01:31 AM

filter the vinegar and then add to distilled water at a ratio of 12% vinegar and the rest distilled water. The vinegar should be filtered to remove any particles. There you have it 12% AA ready to recon. Mix this with your igf. I use 2ml per 1000mcg. this means 10 on a u100 slin pin would be 50mcg. Draw up the required ammount of igf mixture then draw up some NACL say 20iu to take the sting out of the shot,

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-18-2008, 01:37 AM

Very much appreciated Beast. And I'll be posting my own Syntherol log shortly I'll have to see how my results pan out. I was gna do 40mcg so I'd probably dilute it with 4 ml instead of 2. But I'll definitely use the nacl to ease my pain. Thanx for the help, sorry to ask so many questions.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-18-2008, 03:09 AM

One more question, if you say use 12% AA for recon then how come the IGF kits use .06%AA for recon? I'm not doubting your word, I was just curious thats all?

**N4cer** · 02-18-2008, 07:05 AM

Actually they use 0.6%. I can see where the 12 came from... if you make your own AA, you'd use 12% white vinegar (which is 5% AA).

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-18-2008, 10:22 AM

Sorry 0.6% can anyone shine some light on this? I think that whole 12% originated from Red Baron's post about it. I read his article on it and thats where it seems like it came from, correct me if I'm wrong.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 02-18-2008, 03:28 PM

because white vinegar is not 100% AA so using 12% vinegar and 88% distilled water gives the correct ph and ends up the same as the stuff you get from the chem companies. in fact it is probably more accurate as im sure the chem companies and fastidious about how much AA is in there.

**Nickster#1** · 02-18-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by N4cer

Youre getting robbed then. There is no American company producing LR3.

I know of several american companies that make and sell, "not for human consumption of course", igflr3. Our sponsor sells it, and is based in the U.S.A.

**Nickster#1** · 02-18-2008, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by jaysunderstudy

I give up I can't find any acetic acid in the concentration I'm looking for, I think I'm just gonna use Nacl and just go with that.

If you do it this way, it will be good for at least 30 to 40 days. If you want to keep it reconstituted any longer than that, then thats when you want to use the AA.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-18-2008, 08:39 PM

Ar-r might be a distributer or packager of the IGF. Because alota drug companies don't even make their meds in the usa. They're made in japan, germany, even India sometimes. Some drug companies even make their own generic for their name brand meds which is a rip but oh well. Thanx for the help everybody. My 1mg is gna last about 4 weeks. Its just the places are a pain the ass because they don't include the supplies to recon. it with. But I'll probably do both, I need to order some filters anyway for my other research experiments.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-20-2008, 11:01 AM

I got my IGf yesterday do I need to prep the distilled water any before injection? I know its distilled so all the microbes were removed technically but I was just curious as to if any of you all did that?

**mrtosa** · 02-20-2008, 12:40 PM

how do you compare these 2 substance in terms of fat burning

**mrtosa** · 02-20-2008, 12:41 PM

sorry i was trying to post a new treath

**N4cer** · 02-20-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Nickster#1

I know of several american companies that make and sell, "not for human consumption of course", igflr3. Our sponsor sells it, and is based in the U.S.A.

They don't MAKE the LR3. They SELL it. I'll guarantee 100% that it's not made in the USA.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-20-2008, 03:52 PM

Were not knocking anybody's peptides out there. But, just in general how much stuff does America actually make besides fast food and gas guzzling cars? Oh, wait I forgot reality shows.

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-20-2008, 03:54 PM

But seriously I just str8 up cannot find the sterile nacl water, so is there anything else I can cut the AA with to take the sting out? I was thinkin about BW but idk if that will do the trick b/c its not buffered like the NaCl water is. I mean I found a place that sells it, just paying $15 to ship 2 little bottles of Nacl water is rediculous. Any suggestions here?

**Renesis** · 02-20-2008, 04:23 PM

suck up the sting!!!!!!

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-20-2008, 04:25 PM

Lol, thanx, that'll be my last resort. Anybody else can help me out?

**Lariat51** · 02-21-2008, 05:24 PM

No Pain! No Gain!

**jaysunderstudy** · 02-21-2008, 07:41 PM

Well, I managed to come across the rls site the other nite, and it had the whole item list. But it wouldn't let me place an order, the server was down. Sux ass too they had everything I needed. I'm thinkin about just using BA instead of AA as I have some coming nehow. And I've used BA before in other things so I"m used to it.