gh and perma bloat

[mx3]

I am very interested in running gh but i am very worried about the dreaded perma bloat. I have friends that have used gh for a while and they all have perma bloat. what do you guys think about this, is it dose and duration dependent. is there a way to run gh and not get perma bloat.

[Orion811]

I am very interested in running gh but i am very worried about the dreaded perma bloat. I have friends that have used gh for a while and they all have perma bloat. what do you guys think about this, is it dose and duration dependent. is there a way to run gh and not get perma bloat.

I'm pretty certain it's dose dependant, much like the mild acr*****ly it can sometimes produce.

[Gear]

Such side effects occur after many years of use at high doses.

-Gear

[mx3]

Such side effects occur after many years of use at high doses.

-Gear

I heard organ enlargement can continue even after you stop using is this true.
Im thinking of running around 5iu ed for no more than a year, you think ill be alright with that.

[DRAMACYDAL]

I heard organ enlargement can continue even after you stop using is this true.
Im thinking of running around 5iu ed for no more than a year, you think ill be alright with that.

welll the organ growth comes from the igf that the hgh produces in the liver,and igf makes things grow slow,it could take months for whatever to grow that the igf attached to.
what is your goal with the hgh? gain muscle or health benefits?
i think your friends would have to have been taking a lot more than 5iu a day to get a gut.
if you want to take it for health benefits then why not take 4iu itll be a little cheaper and give you good results,maybe even less sides than 5iu

[mx3]

my friends take 10-15iu ed. i want to use it to keep fat minimal while bulking and added muscle growth as well although i am told I would need around 7iu ed to see a difference in muscle from it. also I will be switching from 12-16wk cycles a year to 4-6 wk burst cycles so I will probably run 4 cycles yearly while running gh throughout and igf during pct.

[DRAMACYDAL]

my friends take 10-15iu ed. i want to use it to keep fat minimal while bulking and added muscle growth as well although i am told I would need around 7iu ed to see a difference in muscle from it. also I will be switching from 12-16wk cycles a year to 4-6 wk burst cycles so I will probably run 4 cycles yearly while running gh throughout and igf during pct.

holy shit thats like ronnie coleman status
thats just asking for trouble
i agree with the 7iu for building mass,but i dont think gh should be used for mass imo
ever think about using the hgh frag that is specifically used for fat loss,without the side's of hgh?
its fragment 177-191

[mx3]

holy shit thats like ronnie coleman status
thats just asking for trouble
i agree with the 7iu for building mass,but i dont think gh should be used for mass imo
ever think about using the hgh frag that is specifically used for fat loss,without the side's of hgh?
its fragment 177-191

i haven't heard of it is it a research peptide, sorry i know aas but my knowledge of these peptides is minimal so I dont understand everything yet so if you could explain about the diffferent fragments I would appreciate it.

[DRAMACYDAL]

i haven't heard of it is it a research peptide, sorry i know aas but my knowledge of these peptides is minimal so I dont understand everything yet so if you could explain about the diffferent fragments I would appreciate it.

sure np
hgh has 191 fragments, the fragments 177-191 are the part of the hgh that causes fat loss,the rest of the hgh has diffrent effects\
so taking this fragment will only benefit for fat loss,and you would get no side effects that you would on hgh
look up the fragment

[mx3]

thanks for the info