Insulin for the first time - Again

[unoigo]

Didn't want to hijack the other guys thread so I figuered I would start my own......

I'm planning on running slin PWO for the first time. I'll be using Humalog, 5iu PWO only and will slowly work up to 10iu. I will also be running GH PWO as well. Either 10iu or 5iu with another 5iu first thing in the morning prior to meal 1.

This is how my offseason diet is set up for PWO meals.

5:00 - 6:00p Train
6:00p Immediately PWO - 80g WMS, 20g whey
6:30p 30 min later - 50g complex carbs (oats), 20g whey
7:00p 30 mins later - 50g red meat, fiberous veggie
9:00 - 9:30p 2hr later - 25g whey, 25g casein, tbsp natty PB
9:30p - Bed

I understand the ratio of carbs per iu of slin (10g) so obviously my current protocol will change slightly. I am unsre of how to time everything though. I drink my WMS shake at the gym, then drive 15 mins home. My plan is to shot the slin once I get home. Is this an issue as far as timing goes?

I'm also concerned with how late in the day I will be taking in the slin. It will probabloy around 6:30p and I normally go to bed between 9:00-9:30p Should I stay away longer to ensure the slin has fully cleared?

Thanks!

[PT]

Didn't want to hijack the other guys thread so I figuered I would start my own......

I'm planning on running slin PWO for the first time. I'll be using Humalog, 5iu PWO only and will slowly work up to 10iu. I will also be running GH PWO as well. Either 10iu or 5iu with another 5iu first thing in the morning prior to meal 1.

This is how my offseason diet is set up for PWO meals.

5:00 - 6:00p Train
6:00p Immediately PWO - 80g WMS, 20g whey
6:30p 30 min later - 50g complex carbs (oats), 20g whey
7:00p 30 mins later - 50g red meat, fiberous veggie
9:00 - 9:30p 2hr later - 25g whey, 25g casein, tbsp natty PB
9:30p - Bed

I understand the ratio of carbs per iu of slin (10g) so obviously my current protocol will change slightly. I am unsre of how to time everything though. I drink my WMS shake at the gym, then drive 15 mins home. My plan is to shot the slin once I get home. Is this an issue as far as timing goes?

I'm also concerned with how late in the day I will be taking in the slin. It will probabloy around 6:30p and I normally go to bed between 9:00-9:30p Should I stay away longer to ensure the slin has fully cleared?

Thanks!

i try to stay away from red meat or any other high fat foods when im on slin for fear of gaining fat. as for the 10g of carbs per iu, thats a good starting point but your goal will be to lower that slightly each day if you feel well until you get to around 5-6g per iu or start feeling hypo. i may of read your post wrong but i didnt see what time you took your slin. as for sleeping i feel safe going sleep 3 hours after a humalog shot but i always consume a few more carbs before bed just to be safe.

[unoigo]

Thanks for the reply. The protocol above is current, without GH and Slin. I'm thinking of taking the GH/Slin shot when I get home, 6:30ish. This would be after my initial PWO shake but before by PWO meal of oats & whey. I feel it's going to be impossible to take the shot with me and poke at the gym. Should I just wait until I get home and have the PWO shake after I poke?

[Mutation]

HaHa, you love to post the same threads over on OLM. I replied to your thread over there. I'm sure Peitro will do the same.

[unoigo]

Yea, I saw your post and replied Mutant. Here and OLM seem to be the 2 boards with the most experienced users and knowledge minus all the BS. I use both as there are good vets on both boards.

[PT]

Thanks for the reply. The protocol above is current, without GH and Slin. I'm thinking of taking the GH/Slin shot when I get home, 6:30ish. This would be after my initial PWO shake but before by PWO meal of oats & whey. I feel it's going to be impossible to take the shot with me and poke at the gym. Should I just wait until I get home and have the PWO shake after I poke?

yea you can wait until you get home to take your slin then have your shake, thats no problem at all.

[Gear]

This is what I usually do:

* Train
* Immidietly PWO take insulin
* Immidietly post injection have "x" amount of carbs and 5g of glutamine and creatine
* 15min later (when the insulin has kicked in) consume 75g of WPI
* 1hr later have a pro/fat dinner (usually grilled chicken & baked potatoes)
* 1.25hrs later have another meal such as above

By the time you have your next meal insulin will no longer be active therefore you may eat as you usually do.

-Gear

[Mutation]

Mine is close to GEAR's.

-Immediatly pwo I take my GH.
-15-20 min later I take my Slin.
-Followed by a shake w/60g protein, 80-100g malto or waxy, creatine, and some extra aminos.
-1 hour later eat my solid meal consisting of complex carbs and protein...low fat content.

[unoigo]

Thanks for the feedback guys!

[PT]

Mine is close to GEAR's.

-Immediatly pwo I take my GH.
-15-20 min later I take my Slin.
-Followed by a shake w/60g protein, 80-100g malto or waxy, creatine, and some extra aminos.
-1 hour later eat my solid meal consisting of complex carbs and protein...low fat content.

i take my slin as soon as im done workingout. i walk right to my car and shoot my slin then have my shake. my hgh gets shot at 5am and 3pm and i usually lift around 5pm

[Gear]

My HGH/insulin protocol is the same as pietro's.

-Gear

[PT]

My HGH/insulin protocol is the same as pietro's.

-Gear

like you i want to get my slin/carbs/protein/createin into my body the 2nd i finishing lifting. unfortunatly other members at my gym may frown upon me pulling out my slin and shooting it inside so i wait until i walk to my car. i have tried shooting in the bathroom before my last 2 sets but that didnt work very well for me so i just wait until im dont aand shoot im asap.

[Gear]

I'm a high believer in giving your muscle cells the appropriate nutrients PWO and that's the reason why I am always injecting in the toilet immidietly PWO. Perhaps they should have injecting rooms at gym

-Gear

[PT]

I'm a high believer in giving your muscle cells the appropriate nutrients PWO and that's the reason why I am always injecting in the toilet immidietly PWO. Perhaps they should have injecting rooms at gym

-Gear

i would love that idea because the longer you wait to inject after your done lifting the weaker the results will be. i would love to be able to walk into an injection room 10min before im done and inject my slin.

[unoigo]

I agree... I habe my PWO shake within minutes after my last set. So if I were to shoot the slin at the gym, it would require me to take it with me to work, as I work 45 mins from home. I have read conflicting results about the temperature slin needs to be kept at. Would it be ok, if I preloaded the pin, and took it with me. It would be kept around room temperature for 9+ hrs.

[PT]

humalog and humalin-r will last up to 28 days at room temperature so you'll definatly be ok bro. if you have the pens they dont require refrigeration

[dlovefitness]

Awesome posts bros...Ilike gears and piertro protocol.....Say Is insulin something to stay on for more than 2 weeks at a time...I heard if you take enough of it , you;ll have to take it for the rest of your life is this true?...thanks fellas...Dave

[PT]

i usually take slin for 4 weeks at a time but everyne is different and others take it every workout day pwo. if your a beginer then pwo would be bes for you. start by taking it only on workout days then go from there. if you have any other questions feel free to ask or pm me because i would rather see you safe then sorry. good luck bro

[dlovefitness]

Would the slin and Igf-1 be ok to stack with regular AAS or would be better for PCT?......I know slin alone good for AAS but both for AAS i'm not sure bro....thanks bro....Dave from ..Florida

[PT]

i have used slin/hgh/igf/steroids together before so yes it can be done

[Jenseno9]

i take my slin as soon as im done workingout. i walk right to my car and shoot my slin then have my shake. my hgh gets shot at 5am and 3pm and i usually lift around 5pm

Is it a good idea to leave your slin in your hot car while your in the gym?