qustion on insulin

[DreDD]

I want to run a 20 week cycle and just need to clear some thing up before I start, I have never use HGH so your advice would be great.

weeks 1-20 HGH 4 iu ED 5 on 2 off
weeks 1-12 Sustanon 250 mg/ EOD [1000mg a week]
weeks 1-12 Deca 200mg [600mg a week]
weeks 9-15 Winstrol/ 50 mg/ EOD
weeks 16-20 Clomid Therapy

I will be running Insulin 4iu up to 10iu and T3 25.

my qustion is how long is it safe for me to run insulin after I get up to 10iu, can I run it for the full 20 weeks without any problems.

[JimInAK]

I am not aware of any long term negative effect from taking insulin. The primary issue is to not take too much, when you do inject insulin.

[PT]

i run 4 weeks on then 3-4 weeks off and that workd great for me. i woulnd never recommend running slin for 20 weeks straight. are you shooting your slin ed or just pwo on your workout days?

[Narkissos]

It's a hotly debated topic to be honest.

Some cycle on and off... some run tru-out.

The rationale for the latter is that'd take a load off the pancreas... The extent of the relief would depend on the protocol being utilized however.

(I can explain further if you wish)

Personally I've always run slin for extended periods of time... utilizing GDAs and insulin sensitizing agents tru-out.

This may not be feasible for you, especially if you're new to the compound.

So my question to you would be what is your experience with slin?

Have you ever used it at all?

-CNS

[DreDD]

This will be the first time using sin and hgh. i want to use it only on training days pwo, i train 6 days a week.

[Flex-Appeal]

I too started slin not long ago (couple weeks) and im trying to decide if i will take a few weeks off a the 4th week or not.
*not to highjack the thread* maybe dreDD can benefit from this as well...
If we were to run "tru-out" then what are these GDA's & slin sensitizing agents?

[DreDD]

no problem Flex, i just need to know if it's safe to do sin for 20 weeks

[Flex-Appeal]

read Narks post, he says it's an uncertain topic. He runs it for long periods but only with gda and sensitizing agents. So it's user opinionated

[Narkissos]

^^Indeed.

-CNS

[PT]

but any newcomer should play it safe and go 4 on 4 off.

[DreDD]

Thanks PT i think I'll take your advice and cycle 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, thank you all for the help.
one last thing seeing as i'm new to sin should i stay at 4iu or go up to 10iuover time.

[PT]

go up to 10ius. start at 4ius and raise it by 1iu eod until you hit 10ius. stay at 10g of carbs per iu until your at 10ius for 2 or 3 days then slowley lower until you find your desired amount.

[Narkissos]

I defer from further comment.

-CNS

[Flex-Appeal]

^haha why is that Nark? Are we disagreeing with PT?

[Narkissos]

^^On a number of levels... yes.

*shrugs*

Everyone's entitled to an opinion though... none ranking higher than the other.

And... i defer from sharing mine at this point.

-CNS

[DreDD]

Nark my man I didn't want to offend you, I’m just a little worried about taking slin, I’ve read some bad stuff about it and just wanted to get it clear in my head, I would like to hear you’re comments on this very important issue [ important to me any way ].

[Narkissos]

Nark my man I didn't want to offend you, I’m just a little worried about taking slin, I’ve read some bad stuff about it and just wanted to get it clear in my head, I would like to hear you’re comments on this very important issue [ important to me any way ].

Oh you didn't offend me buddy

I'm just not in the mood to get banned for 'dangerous' advice.

Feel free to hit with a PM however.

-CNS

[DreDD]

Thanks Nark, pm on way

[DreDD]

PT one more question on GH, after my cycle has finished do I just take GH on its own with just the slin 4 week on and 4 weeks off, until I go on to my next cycle of AAS which would be 20 weeks later?

or is that just a waste of GH?
should I keep it for the next cycle?

[Gear]

Quik but-in while I'm here... Keep on using HGH and continue using throughout your next cycle.

-Gear