GH questions...

**FNG2002** · 03-03-2009, 05:00 PM

Hey Everyone,

New guy here, hence the name, and have some questions that hopefully you all could help with. I am currently taking GH for the 1st time (1st time I have taken anything you cant buy in GNC) and it will be 2 months a week from today since I've started the cycle. I have been doing 2iu's on a 5/2 schedule(I have a 6 month cycle...).

I've been very strict (minus a week vacation I took) with my dosing. My diet is pretty good, lots of protein, good carbs, low fat. Still take my usual supps (protein/creatine/pre-work drinks). Workouts have been kind of lacking. Injured a shoulder in october and am still only about 90% and thats hurt my workouts considerably.

I have consistently worked out 4 or 5 days a week doing what I can and this week have returned to working out like crazy. When I am 100% healthy I workout 5-6 days a week and am constantly active with sports and other hobbies. And my diet is going to be near immaculate in a week or 2 (minus a few nights a month boozing).

My goal is to break my plateau of 10%bf which I have been numerous times... but cannot break that point. I care a little about looking good, but care more about being in great shape for sports and stuff.

If I could be my current weight and between 6-8%bf with crazy speed/endurance/stamina that would be my ultimate goal So onto stats and questions.

24yrs old
225lbs (start weight and current weight)
6'2"
BF at start was about 16% (current not sure... but I look same, maybe worse.. think my midsection got a little bigger, in a bad way)

1. How is my dosing? Both schedule and IU's?

2. How long does it take your typical person see results with GH?

3. Could my mediocre training be the main cause of my lack of results? (it's my main suspect anyways) Should I have still seen something by now? I still train more/better/harder than most people even if it's only 50-70% my norm.

4. Should I be on a AS to maximize results? Have given some thought to anavar ... maybe even winny... but I hate IM inections.

5. I've read some things on here about glucose and what not while on GH I have never read before... should I be also be taking some glucose/insulin stuff right now? Very surprised to have read that stuff... researched for almost a month and never saw anything about taking that type of stuff along with GH.

6. Any other advice for a complete noob to the world of AS?

thanks,

F-N-G

**hellapimpin** · 03-03-2009, 05:14 PM

you might want to have this moved to the other section for Gh, slin..igf..etc.. you will probably get better responses

**FNG2002** · 03-05-2009, 08:26 AM

Bumped in hopes of some replies.

PT · 03-05-2009, 10:48 AM

[quote=FNG2002;4474614]Hey Everyone,

New guy here, hence the name, and have some questions that hopefully you all could help with. I am currently taking GH for the 1st time (1st time I have taken anything you cant buy in GNC) and it will be 2 months a week from today since I've started the cycle. I have been doing 2iu's on a 5/2 schedule(I have a 6 month cycle...).

I've been very strict (minus a week vacation I took) with my dosing. My diet is pretty good, lots of protein, good carbs, low fat. Still take my usual supps (protein/creatine/pre-work drinks). Workouts have been kind of lacking. Injured a shoulder in october and am still only about 90% and thats hurt my workouts considerably.

I have consistently worked out 4 or 5 days a week doing what I can and this week have returned to working out like crazy. When I am 100% healthy I workout 5-6 days a week and am constantly active with sports and other hobbies. And my diet is going to be near immaculate in a week or 2 (minus a few nights a month boozing).

My goal is to break my plateau of 10%bf which I have been numerous times... but cannot break that point. I care a little about looking good, but care more about being in great shape for sports and stuff.

If I could be my current weight and between 6-8%bf with crazy speed/endurance/stamina that would be my ultimate goal So onto stats and questions.

24yrs old
225lbs (start weight and current weight)
6'2"
BF at start was about 16% (current not sure... but I look same, maybe worse.. think my midsection got a little bigger, in a bad way)

1. How is my dosing? Both schedule and IU's? its a very, very low dose for your age and the only thing you'll see from it is slight fat loss.

2. How long does it take your typical person see results with GH?that depends on the person, the age of the person and the amount

3. Could my mediocre training be the main cause of my lack of results? (it's my main suspect anyways) Should I have still seen something by now? I still train more/better/harder than most people even if it's only 50-70% my norm. do you do 4 days of cardio for at least 30-45min?

4. Should I be on a AS to maximize results? Have given some thought to anavar ... maybe even winny... but I hate IM inections. if you want any kind of muscle growth then this your going to have to get on steroids or raise the dose to at least 5ius a day. you will gain muscle if your diet is up to par and your training but it wont really be from the 2ius

5. I've read some things on here about glucose and what not while on GH I have never read before... should I be also be taking some glucose/insulin stuff right now? Very surprised to have read that stuff... researched for almost a month and never saw anything about taking that type of stuff along with GH. of course slin will help but that's your choice

6. Any other advice for a complete noob to the world of AS?

thanks,

F-N-G

**FNG2002** · 03-05-2009, 11:22 AM

1st off, thanks for all the info PT... but unfortunately it's lead to some more questions. Hope you dont mind bro.

1. How is my dosing? Both schedule and IU's? its a very, very low dose for your age and the only thing you'll see from it is slight fat loss.

What do you recommend I increase dose to? I have 176iu's left between both my kits of Serostim (blue top stuff)

2. How long does it take your typical person see results with GH?that depends on the person, the age of the person and the amount

3. Could my mediocre training be the main cause of my lack of results? (it's my main suspect anyways) Should I have still seen something by now? I still train more/better/harder than most people even if it's only 50-70% my norm. do you do 4 days of cardio for at least 30-45min?

Cardio has been about that, maybe slightly less, but as of this week I will be crushing my trainning/cardio as my should is almost 100% again.

4. Should I be on a AS to maximize results? Have given some thought to anavar ... maybe even winny... but I hate IM inections. if you want any kind of muscle growth then this your going to have to get on steroids or raise the dose to at least 5ius a day. you will gain muscle if your diet is up to par and your training but it wont really be from the 2ius

Do you think anavar is a good starter steroid?

5. I've read some things on here about glucose and what not while on GH I have never read before... should I be also be taking some glucose/insulin stuff right now? Very surprised to have read that stuff... researched for almost a month and never saw anything about taking that type of stuff along with GH. of course slin will help but that's your choice

How much benefit is there from introducing slin? What are risks/sides? To my understanding it can be very safe as long as dosing/diet is perfomed properly

Some more thoughts questions...

1. I used the sterile water that came with my kits for the 1st 5 vials (90iu's) instead of bac water advised by my source. I have read it can deminish potency of the GH after 24hours... I have been experiencing sides since day 1... mainly lethargy and some water retention. So am pretty sure it's working. How bad does it mess up the potency? Did I waste 5 vials? I have bac water for my next mixing if its that big a deal.

2. Blue top vs Green top? Whats all this talk about? Are the generics that less potent? I have Serostim Bluetops. (paid quite a bit for too)

Thanks again for all the help guys.

F-N-G

**sdc** · 03-07-2009, 11:16 AM

I think a low dose anavar might help you out a bit. I have had good results with anavar on it's own. Of course anabolics will speed up the process, but in the end you will be where you started. Try a low dose 40mgs a day of anavar for 6 wks. Your recover should be a breeze while on HGH. From the sounds of it, that's what you are after. Also you can bump up the HGH a iu or two. Should make a nice difference. But of course you would have to buy a couple more kits.
Keep me posted on your progress.

**sdc** · 03-07-2009, 11:19 AM

Also stay as far away as possible for slin. That's some serious stuff. Only for people who have been in the game for along time. Not worth the risks at all for someone like you. Believe me I deal with people all the time who go in diabetic comas because there blood sugar gets out of wack. Not cool.

**FNG2002** · 03-08-2009, 06:12 AM

Thanks for the advice SDC. I am looking to run var at 40 or 50 a day for 6-8weeks. I've heard lots of good things about it. What do you mean about being back where you started when your done? I've heard whatever gains you make from anavar are pretty solid and stay with you once you d/c? I would think even more so when paired with the growth. But then again, I am the FNG and thats why I am here asking about this stuff.

I am trying to get my hands on some var very soon and may bump up to 3iu's for my dose of gh once I do for the duration while I am on the var. Doubt I will be getting any more kits of gh though, 2 3 month kits set me back quite a bit. Will keep you guys posted.

F-N-G