HGH without anabolics?

**Slide** · 03-24-2009, 01:46 PM

I am concerned about hairloss, and from what i have read on here the anabolics cause it to worsen.

I have read that ppl recommend doing HGH with a cycle of anabolics, but what could i expect from just the HGH?

If i did do HGH without anabolics, what would be a good first cycle?

thanks (and i did search, so if this has been answered before i apologize.)

**Flex-Appeal** · 03-24-2009, 01:55 PM

HGH works much better when ran with anabolics.
Depending on the IU dose you take depends on results.
Fat loss= 2-4iu
Muscle mass = 5-10iu
You get out of it what you put into it. It's no miracle and results are very slow.
Start at 2iu, up 1iu every 2-3 weeks or as needed. Sides may keep you at a lower dose longer than others.

PS---you have done very little research, it shows by your questions asked

**Slide** · 03-24-2009, 02:43 PM

thanks - i am trying to learn as fast as possible. I kept trying to search, but now i found the stickies in the top (i couldn't find them b/c they were in a separate folder) so hopefully i will ask more informed questions going forward.

**Silver-Bolt** · 03-24-2009, 07:26 PM

I ran a 6 month GH only cycle. I worked up to 5iu's ED. In 6 months I lost 3% BF and gained 4-5 lbs. The older you are the more you will benefit from GH. I am 44. It's slow and very expensive but it does work.

What are you goals? Stats? Age?

**Flex-Appeal** · 03-24-2009, 09:06 PM

NP slide, maybe I can send you some links later when I'm on my comp

**Slide** · 03-25-2009, 02:14 PM

Sounds good.

stats:
Age: 29
Height: 6 ft
Weight: 200
diet is close (but is not perfect) to the recommended

My goal is two fold. One, i would like to gain more muscle, strength and endurance/lose body fat (who doesn't). but my goals are not crazy, any improvement would be welcome. I have been training since high school and am a semi-pro level athlete.

Second is pure curiosity. I have always liked trying new things, experimenting etc. I am very conservative when i first try something and i really would like to see what HGH is like.

**Slide** · 03-25-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal

NP slide, maybe I can send you some links later when I'm on my comp

Any additional links would be great. thanks

**Slide** · 03-25-2009, 04:20 PM

Silver Bolt - from your first hand experience did you think it was worth it? did you get any of the sides? did you get the "good" feeling?

just curious, thanks

**Slide** · 03-25-2009, 06:01 PM

Silver, also i forgot to ask, did you do IGF too?

**Silver-Bolt** · 03-25-2009, 08:01 PM

Slide,
For me I felt is was worth it. I ran GH only nothing else except whey protein for supplements. I took a couple of months off and just started again. This time I have added 100mg/week of Test-E and started with 2iu's of GH. Huge difference over GH alone. My blood work before I started this run showed my Test levels to be low. Still within "normal" but only by a few points. Adding the Test made a huge difference in my overall wellness feeling. I did not rally get that feeling with GH alone. I did gets sides. First it was sleepiness during the day and then it was tingling in the fingers and hands. When I bumped from 4iu to 5iu the side hit me hard. My wrists hurt so bad I couldn't lift. I backed down to 4iu and all was good again. Took me about a month to work back to 5iu without the big pain.

Looking back and knowing what I know now I wish I would have run Test with my first GH run. I could have easily cut my GH in half and had much better gains.

**Slide** · 03-26-2009, 12:31 PM

thanks that is good info silver. i might just wait till the rest of my hair falls out before I run the test haha...MBP sucks.

What about sexual sides? i have a girlfriend that is hard to keep up with

what was your experience with sex drive (more or less)? Thank god this is anonymous, I cant believe i just asked a guy about his sex drive...ha

**Slide** · 03-26-2009, 12:33 PM

oh also did you just go to your doctor to get you blood work done or did you send it in to one of the internet sites?

did you do any monitoring of you blood while on the cycle?

**Silver-Bolt** · 03-26-2009, 01:08 PM

My GH only run I really didn't notice a difference in my sex drive. When I added the low dose of Test, holy hell broke loose in my pants. I am now doing part time work as a diamond cutter. The wind blows and I am ready to go. The wind doesn't blow and I am ready to go. Wife suggests I get a girlfriend to give her a break.

Regarding hair loss, I have not seen a change. I have MPB and do not see that Test has increased it one bit. keep in mind my Test dose is a TRT dose and not a cycle dose. No doubt if you start a full on Test cycle you will likely see some loss. For me feeling like I am 20 again is worth losing all my hair.