IGF Bottle only holds 3ml???Help

**higherdesire** · 06-19-2009, 10:34 AM

My igf bottles only hold 3ml of fluid.
I have 1mg=1000mcg,
so then 1ml=333mcg,
so each shot if I want it to be 80mcg, i need 41 iu, correct?
And since that concentration seems to high, I will draw the 41mcg igf, then draw another .4 ml of water for the 1ml to 100mcg solution prior to injection right? Any help is appreciated.

**Slide** · 06-19-2009, 10:54 AM

You can always tranfer it to a sterile vial that holds more liquid. i think Lion shippes them with his IGF.

**Zelos** · 06-19-2009, 01:35 PM

in your case 10ui=33.3mcg

**higherdesire** · 06-19-2009, 07:41 PM

I just mixed three mg in 30ml of BW and threw it in the fridge. Anyone see a problem with this?

**Zelos** · 06-20-2009, 06:41 AM

you should have mixed for less BW.
Now you have 100mcg for 100ui=1ml.
and your solution is viable for just some weeks.
Should be better to mix it with AA.

**wharton** · 06-20-2009, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by higherdesire

I just mixed three mg in 30ml of BW and threw it in the fridge. Anyone see a problem with this?

LOL, in BW I always thought it only lasts a week before it starts to breakdown

**higherdesire** · 06-20-2009, 09:11 AM

Yeah I have read a lot on it saying different things, but the manufacturer said it was fine so I am going to go with that. There is soo much conflicting advice on the boards, what is a guy to do? Is there a way to tell when it goes bad? I have a lot more than I need so worse case scenario I can mix more in smaller increments. Thanks.

**Zelos** · 06-20-2009, 01:42 PM

so much confilcting ?
there's a thread about igf, it's easy, and only one way if you want to preserve it.

**higherdesire** · 06-20-2009, 05:54 PM

Zelos, there is definalty not only one way, and preserving it for what and how long is very relative.. Who needs to save it for over a month if they are mixing 1mg anyway? or even three weeks? I am interested in your background research though, so please post it at your convenience. thanks.

***SPIKE*** · 06-21-2009, 07:47 AM

How did your IGF come? Was in a dry lyophilized form or was it already dissolved?

If its in a lyophilized form, was AA or BA supplied?

**ni4ni** · 06-21-2009, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by higherdesire

Yeah I have read a lot on it saying different things, but the manufacturer said it was fine so I am going to go with that. There is soo much conflicting advice on the boards, what is a guy to do? Is there a way to tell when it goes bad? I have a lot more than I need so worse case scenario I can mix more in smaller increments. Thanks.

HD, more than you need?? HELL YEAH-PM me

**higherdesire** · 06-21-2009, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by JAYHOVA

How did your IGF come? Was in a dry lyophilized form or was it already dissolved?

If its in a lyophilized form, was AA or BA supplied?

It came in a box of ten vials only. I had to infect air into it to release the pressure. I used BW to reconstitute. I bought it seperately.

***SPIKE*** · 06-21-2009, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by higherdesire

It came in a box of ten vials only. I had to infect air into it to release the pressure. I used BW to reconstitute. I bought it seperately.

How many mcg are the 10 vials? Are they 100mcg per vial or 1000mcg per vial?

The old Igtropin kits used to be 1000mcg per kit. 10 100mcg vials. Is it similar to those?

**higherdesire** · 06-21-2009, 05:55 PM

No these are 1mg per vial, so I have a total of 10,000 mcg.

***SPIKE*** · 06-22-2009, 09:53 AM

IGF-1LR3 needs to be reconstituted in a very acidic solution. It will degrade at a very rapid rate if it's not. BW is a solution that is not acidic.

Many sources sell LR3 without the solution. Really makes no sense but they still do. If you added BW to the Lyophilized form, it's degrading at a very rapid rate. You should've added AA to it. You would then draw your desired amount out of the vial with the AA. Then add a buffering solution prior to injection. Acidic solutions are highly necrotic to muscle tissue so you need BW or SC to cut down on the acidity prior to injection.

How many vials did you add the BW to?

**higherdesire** · 06-22-2009, 11:07 AM

three.

I took 2 ml BW and added it to each of three different vials. THen withdrew the solutions and added it to a the remaiing portion of a 30ml bottle of BW from which each of the 2ml were drawn intitially. So I have a total of 30 ml of BW with a total of 3mg of igf.

**higherdesire** · 06-22-2009, 11:08 AM

I did that on Friday.

***SPIKE*** · 06-22-2009, 12:56 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm sorry to say this but I'd say it's almost useless by now HD. The minute that BW hit it, it started to degrade.

Have you used LR3 before? If so then you know how you should "feel" on it. I'd start using that LR3 ASAP. I cant give you an exact time frame but after a while it's going to be like you're injecting pure BW.

Get yourself some AA or BA. Then next time you can do what you just did. It will last much longer in an acidic solution. Last I checked it was up to and over 2+ years in AA/BA.

**higherdesire** · 06-22-2009, 03:56 PM

What size filter will I need? And you said AA or BA, i can get both the filter and BA in one place or I have to order from two places, is BA good enough? Thanks.