questions about HGH

**MHD** · 07-07-2009, 01:45 AM

Goodmorning i come from the Netherlands, so sorry for my english.

I am 186 cm. 113 kg. en 28 years old and my fat% is around 14-16 %.

I have a couple of questions regarding to GH

-I am very tired during the day, i now take 4 iu HGH first thing in the morning with 50 mcg t4. If i take 4 iu before i go to sleep wil i be less tired during the day ???

-Can i take proviron with HGH en test ??? i know HGH does work better because of the enzyme aromatase.

-if i want to take everything before i go to bed, can i take 8 iu in one time ???

**higherdesire** · 07-07-2009, 05:06 AM

Your bodies natural roduction of Gh is highest during the sleep time, so you do not want to take it at that time becasue your natural ability ot produce will be surpressed and possible damaged. So the most optimum time to take it is upon rising take 2iu then again in the afternoon. If you go to 8iu ed then do 4iu upon rising, and the other 4 in the afternoon. It will not effect your rest if you take it before bed. I am not sure about the proviron .

Hoiw long have you been on gh? Lethargy can be a side effect, even though they say that you should feel more youthful and energetic. I think the tiredness should fade though. It is likely that the elevated IGF levels as the gh is destroyed by the body is the reason for the lethergy. For every iu you take of gh there is about 4mcg of igf produced, and it does, or CAN, cause you to be tired. Have your tried to up the T4 to 100mcg?

Good luck.

**MHD** · 07-07-2009, 05:17 AM

Tx for the reply. I did not try the t4 at 100 mcg, i wil do that. I have read a piece that GH wil supress your own GH about 24 hours because of a negative feedbacksystem http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/2/601

I think theres is a reason why your own GH production is highest during the sleep time, the body uses the GH better than during the day, thats why your own GH-production is in your sleep. Also your own natural production is about 0,5 iu so that is much lesser then 4 iu, also you don't have to think about insuline / carbs.

**higherdesire** · 07-07-2009, 05:35 AM

Well age has a direct influence on how much your body is producing during any given time in your life. THe reason the body is producung more gh in the night is because that is the designated time for oyur body to repair itself and grow/regenerate so that is when it needs it most, however you do not want to intefere with your bodies natural production process, you want to supplement it, then the dosing protocol will require that you NOT do it at night at all costs.

Half life is 2-4 hours so it will not last as a suppressive for 24 hours. THere is conflicting evidences out there, so who knows if we are right or wrong! LOL

**MHD** · 07-07-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by higherdesire

Well age has a direct influence on how much your body is producing during any given time in your life. THe reason the body is producung more gh in the night is because that is the designated time for oyur body to repair itself and grow/regenerate so that is when it needs it most, however you do not want to intefere with your bodies natural production process, you want to supplement it, then the dosing protocol will require that you NOT do it at night at all costs.

Half life is 2-4 hours so it will not last as a suppressive for 24 hours. THere is conflicting evidences out there, so who knows if we are right or wrong! LOL

thats my point, maybe during the day GH can't do its work as good as it should be, you grow in your sleep.

**higherdesire** · 07-07-2009, 11:52 AM

But the part you are looking over is that you will interrupt and possible permanently damage you bodies natural production. But you are bent on doing it so please keep us posted on your results. Good luck bro!

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 07-07-2009, 10:44 PM

^^^ I agree with desire

GH is taken to increase ambient/circulating igf levels (altho HGH has also been shown to work directly on muscle receptors but to a lesser degree) , which remains pretty stable once your GH routine stabilizes: so it doesn't really matter what time of day you take it. HOWEVER, like u say, since u naturally produce your own gh at night, why would you not also capitalize on that addition AND lessen the negative feedback mechanism?

so; up your t4 to 100 mcg

dont take gh before bed

**bjpennnn** · 07-08-2009, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane

^^^ I agree with desire

GH is taken to increase ambient/circulating igf levels (altho HGH has also been shown to work directly on muscle receptors but to a lesser degree) , which remains pretty stable once your GH routine stabilizes: so it doesn't really matter what time of day you take it. HOWEVER, like u say, since u naturally produce your own gh at night, why would you not also capitalize on that addition AND lessen the negative feedback mechanism?

so; up your t4 to 100 mcg

dont take gh before bed

xxxx2

**plug** · 07-08-2009, 07:59 PM

The best time to take GH is early AM when your stomach is empty and an hour befor you eat. Carbs interfer with GH's ability to do it's best. It's also the best time to not interfer with natural production. At least , this is my opinion after several years use and research. I am 63 and use 2iu 6/1 for HRT only.