HGH worth it?

[bigdylan]

I'm debating on whether to take the plunge on Serostim (3 kits). I'm 37 and would hope to maybe run like 12IUs a week for 7 or 8 months. I'm just curious what kind of results I'd get off it?. Ideally I wouldn't mind gaining 5 pounds of muscle and dropping 5 pounds of fat (i'm about 14-15% now). I really don't feel like going back on the juice because I had a hard time recovering last bout (I might run an anavar cycle or two during the GH run). I am lucky enough to have access to pharma grade GH.

[jfalco]

Are you lucky enough to not have to pay pharm grade prices?

I couldn't immagine it being worth the cost if you have to pay the prices that I've seen from US pharmacies.

[syd-bloke]

got me from 22%bf to 13% (currently) in 5 months. im still on it (Somatropin). Although i was on trimming diet and daily workout, but the results are fantastic (for me).

[Big]

as to whether or not it's worth it, that depends on your available income, but good GH ran properly can make amazing changes in your body.

[The Deuce]

That's what I have heard, I want to SOOOO Bad, but I am nervous as HELL... I wish NO ONE had ever told me that it takes Tumors and rapidly accelerates them... because my HYPOCHONDRIACISM kicks in and I automatically think I have tumors everywhere and if I use HGH I'll be dead in a 6 month span... even though recent CT SCAN'S w/ and w/o contrast SHOW NO TUMOR'S in my Brain I didn't have a fully body MRI or anything so I think in my own demented head that I have a hidden tumor hidden somewhere and when I start my HGH it will rear it's ugly head and be my demise...

Ugh I NEED TO JUST GET OVER THAT AND JUST GET ON IT FOR CHRISSAKES !!! LOL

[bigdylan]

You think I have enough to see such dramatic changes though? I'd have 378IU's of serostim. I could run 2IUs 6 on, one off for 7-8 months. Or 3IUs 5 on, 2 off for 5 months.

[Big]

given those choices, I personally would go with the 2iu for the longer period of time. being 37 you would likely see better result at that dosage than someone much younger.

[The Deuce]

Oh and sorry OP for the interuption in your thread... my bad....

[TRYER]

got me from 22%bf to 13% (currently) in 5 months. im still on it (Somatropin). Although i was on trimming diet and daily workout, but the results are fantastic (for me).

how many iu was you taking

[TRYER]

You think I have enough to see such dramatic changes though? I'd have 378IU's of serostim. I could run 2IUs 6 on, one off for 7-8 months. Or 3IUs 5 on, 2 off for 5 months.

everyoune is different but 2iu for 6-7 month imo is not enough time maybe a year

[ScotchGuard]

I ran 5iu/ed for 7 weeks along with good diet and I went from 18% bf to 12% bf. In 12 weeks I was down to 10%. More than the anabolic effects, little aches and pains seemed to have gone down. I had knee surgery 35 years ago, ACL & cartilage removal, and my knee's bothered me for some time. After being on HGH for several months my knee didn't hurt as much and my lower back pain did hurt as much either. Yeah, HGH is a little expensive but I gladly pay the money simply so I can have a better quality of life. It's definitely worth it to me.

[fm2002]

I ran 5iu/ed for 7 weeks along with good diet and I went from 18% bf to 12% bf. In 12 weeks I was down to 10%. More than the anabolic effects, little aches and pains seemed to have gone down. I had knee surgery 35 years ago, ACL & cartilage removal, and my knee's bothered me for some time. After being on HGH for several months my knee didn't hurt as much and my lower back pain did hurt as much either. Yeah, HGH is a little expensive but I gladly pay the money simply so I can have a better quality of life. It's definitely worth it to me.

Are you using powder form or liquid ?

[ScotchGuard]

I am doing powder. I will do AQ when I run out of powder.

[syd-bloke]

how many iu was you taking

Started with 25 in the morning and 25 in the afternoon for 5 months. Currently on 35 and 35 as I am also taking cytomel t3, sus, test prop and stana. But i did oral dbol with hgh at the start of the cycle for 4 weeks. However, the safest way is no more than 50 ed. (im using more to compensate stana and t3 for a short cycle)

Also if you're worried about tumors, get a blood test first. It should clear you from prostate and other important things for men. people with current tumor shouldnt take it otherwise if your healhty, then go for it, it just works!

Downside, cost! currently costing me $60 a day (im using brand name injection [Somatropin]).

[Ashop]

I'm debating on whether to take the plunge on Serostim (3 kits). I'm 37 and would hope to maybe run like 12IUs a week for 7 or 8 months. I'm just curious what kind of results I'd get off it?. Ideally I wouldn't mind gaining 5 pounds of muscle and dropping 5 pounds of fat (i'm about 14-15% now). I really don't feel like going back on the juice because I had a hard time recovering last bout (I might run an anavar cycle or two during the GH run). I am lucky enough to have access to pharma grade GH.

I think HGH works far better when your on a AAS cycle. Even a simple TRT dose of 200mg works. HGH is definitely for the more advanced athlete.

[BG]

Worth every penny.

[Big]

Started with 25 in the morning and 25 in the afternoon for 5 months. Currently on 35 and 35 as I am also taking cytomel t3, sus, test prop and stana. But i did oral dbol with hgh at the start of the cycle for 4 weeks. However, the safest way is no more than 50 ed. (im using more to compensate stana and t3 for a short cycle)

Also if you're worried about tumors, get a blood test first. It should clear you from prostate and other important things for men. people with current tumor shouldnt take it otherwise if your healhty, then go for it, it just works!

Downside, cost! currently costing me $60 a day (im using brand name injection [Somatropin]).

I had hoped this guy would point it out himself after we corrected his math, but in case any n00bs read this he was not using 70iu/day of HGH.

[4loveNhonor]

I'm debating on whether to take the plunge on Serostim (3 kits). I'm 37 and would hope to maybe run like 12IUs a week for 7 or 8 months. I'm just curious what kind of results I'd get off it?. Ideally I wouldn't mind gaining 5 pounds of muscle and dropping 5 pounds of fat (i'm about 14-15% now). I really don't feel like going back on the juice because I had a hard time recovering last bout (I might run an anavar cycle or two during the GH run). I am lucky enough to have access to pharma grade GH.

I'm 37 and been running 2iu for 12 weeks and with a good diet I've seen great results. I don't know BF% but the mirror doesn't lie. BTW: I plan on running an var cycle in about a week too.

[JimInAK]

IMO - HGH is wonderful stuff for those of us over 50. I take 2 iu every day and I feel that it is beneficial. However, I could never afford to buy it through the US pharmaceutical companies. I get mine from a supplier in China.

I took blood tests and I know it's a good product.

[johnq]

jiminak, wot product are you taking as i get mine from a china. hyge's pin wheels top ones.

[opti]

jiminak, wot product are you taking as i get mine from a china. hyge's pin wheels top ones.

johnq, how are you liking this product? Would like to hear your feedback on the pinwheel Hyges.

Thanks

[johnq]

opti, i bought 200ius of hyges the ones with hyge tropin 8iu on the flip caps, ive been on them for 8 weeks now, ill be starting the pin wheel types on monday hope they are just as good.
i would like some feedback on the pin wheel hyges to

[opti]

opti, i bought 200ius of hyges the ones with hyge tropin 8iu on the flip caps, ive been on them for 8 weeks now, ill be starting the pin wheel types on monday hope they are just as good.
i would like some feedback on the pin wheel hyges to

I see, did you get your igf levels tested during your 8iu/top run? Just curious how it will compare to the pinwheel version. Do keep us posted. :-)

[inevitable]

hgh is definitely worth the money.... Im a lifer.

[johnq]

I see, did you get your igf levels tested during your 8iu/top run? Just curious how it will compare to the pinwheel version. Do keep us posted. :-)

no i didnt get my igf levels checked, but i will keep you posted

[JimInAK]

jiminak, wot product are you taking as i get mine from a china. hyge's pin wheels top ones.

I'm buying my hgh directly from a chinese supplier and its a generic product.

[reynaldo]

I'm 37 and been running 2iu for 12 weeks and with a good diet I've seen great results. I don't know BF% but the mirror doesn't lie. BTW: I plan on running an var cycle in about a week too.

That's the GH dosage I'm thinking of starting. Have you noticed any other beneficial effects other than reduction in body fat, i.e., better skin quality, libido, energy, etc.?

[Trueblue]

You think I have enough to see such dramatic changes though? I'd have 378IU's of serostim. I could run 2IUs 6 on, one off for 7-8 months. Or 3IUs 5 on, 2 off for 5 months.

I would run the 2iu 6/2 for the 7 months breo. Yes, you will see dramatic resluts at your age.

[The Deuce]

I am a SOON To be "LIFER" too.. but with the fact you can run GENERIC BLUE's and still see the phenomenal results of the product known as HGH then why pay more...

It's like that with any GENERIC Medicine in my book.. I would rather take EQUATE Ibuprofen for 3 dollars less a bottle than to pay top dollar for ADVIL when the effects ARE THE EXACT Same thing...


I believe that APPLIES the same CONCEPT here... am I right or am I right??? Or am I right??

[BG]

I am a SOON To be "LIFER" too.. but with the fact you can run GENERIC BLUE's and still see the phenomenal results of the product known as HGH then why pay more...

It's like that with any GENERIC Medicine in my book.. I would rather take EQUATE Ibuprofen for 3 dollars less a bottle than to pay top dollar for ADVIL when the effects ARE THE EXACT Same thing...


I believe that APPLIES the same CONCEPT here... am I right or am I right??? Or am I right??

How do you know they are the same thing. There is no way of telling what is in those bottles. Plus China has been known to be very shady with "generic" medicines they make. Who knows under what conditions they were produced under. Thats why you pay more for human grade , you know what you are getting. Why chance shooting something into your body you have no idea what it is. Your crazy to say generics are as good as pharma grade, you need to take way more generic GH to get the results of pharma so right there it tells you its not as pure.

[The Deuce]

How do you know they are the same thing. There is no way of telling what is in those bottles. Plus China has been known to be very shady with "generic" medicines they make. Who knows under what conditions they were produced under. Thats why you pay more for human grade , you know what you are getting. Why chance shooting something into your body you have no idea what it is. Your crazy to say generics are as good as pharma grade, you need to take way more generic GH to get the results of pharma so right there it tells you its not as pure.

Thank YOU Bg. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.. exactly.. I was being speculative.. and wanted someone to come across and well cross examine it to make sure that what I had heard was false information..

I knew that what I said was false and misleading and I truly apologize for it.. but it was more of a way to coax information out.. yes I know there are better ways to go about it.. but I figured NEGATIVE Info tends to get corrected more quickly and accurately than A question asked about the same sort of thing.


Now, Since I somewhat have the attention. Ok you got Generic Blue Tops.. That you KNOW are G2G.. because you KNOW your source and KNOW that that source WOULD NEVER acquire anything that wasn't.. that being said.. like you said you have to take more to achieve the same results.. so does that mean one would take what you said in context,believe it to be possibly on the underdosed side and go ahead and TAKE MORE. Here for instance, I am starting my first course of HGH and I am running at the start of this some Generic Blue's.. was gonna start at the 2iu ED mark.. from what you just said.. it leads me to believe that aside from the faact that this is my firs run that maybe I should consider starting at 3iu's per day maybe even 4iu's per day.. because if I use what you say in context.. if I START At 2iu's to ramp up to where I need to be.. that could mean since they are "GENERIC BLUE'S" That I might as well be doing the equivalent of 1iu or less if I were to be using say.. Pharm grade HGH..

Because YOU BG were the one who informed me that THE SYNTROM GH was in fact Blue top Generic.. so... I would really liek to know before I stick myself for the first time where I am at on how to start this so I do it CORRECTLY.. I mean I have started MY OWN THREADS on this but NO ONE EVER SEEMS to want to take the time to assist me and help me with this.. regardless of how much help I have poured into the community regarding AAS. I just want help with this... that's all.. Thanks for your time.

[spooledup]

I'm using generic red tops and they're kicking my ass on only 3 iu ED.

I'm waking up and my hands feel like I have arthritis. My ankles are stiff walking down the stairs in the morning. I'm getting very tired at times. I'm getting flashy minor headaches. I'm already leaning up after only 5 weeks.

My generics are definitely good.

[The Deuce]

Yah I know and TRUST generics.. obviously they do work if you get them from a legit source..

But like when You could get LEGIT HYGE or GLO... Is it worth that extra MONEY to kick it up that extra Notch??

Or do people get by on just GENERIC GH and do just fine??


This stuff confuses the HELL out of me.. I mean I am glad I am changing my game to this because i need it.. but.. in the AAS world IT'S SIMPLE.. I know everything you could possibly NEED to know about it.. ASK ME SOMETHING ABOUT HGH and I feel like PETER GRIFFIN on FAMILY GUY !!


And to get answers out of people is like pulling GODDAMNED TEETH... I don't get it... I can go right over to the AAS section ASK A Q? and I got 30 responses in 2 minutes... I can wait on 1 response for a WEEK on HGH !!!! It's insane.. and NOT RIGHT.. For chrissakes I am trying to LEARN and become as educated about GH as I am about AAS... KNOWLEDGE is POWER... and in this AREA ... I have Little to None...

[reynaldo]

I'm using generic red tops and they're kicking my ass on only 3 iu ED.

I'm waking up and my hands feel like I have arthritis. My ankles are stiff walking down the stairs in the morning. I'm getting very tired at times. I'm getting flashy minor headaches. I'm already leaning up after only 5 weeks.

My generics are definitely good.

Ummm...okay. So you're leaning out but you're tired, have headaches and feel like you have arthritis in your hands...So what's the point?

Don't mean to sound like a wise***, but I'm wondering...

[spooledup]

He has a good point, pharm grade is always ideal as far as consistency, purity, and potency.

I'm under the impression generic can be very good, but you are just more prone to hit and miss.

This is my first run of GH but my source has used it many times and told me these red tops were potent.

If your source is trusted you should be good. If the GH was bunk he'd be getting complaints right off the bat.

[spooledup]

Ummm...okay. So you're leaning out but you're tired, have headaches and feel like you have arthritis in your hands...So what's the point?

Don't mean to sound like a wise***, but I'm wondering...

Hah, I'm starting to wunder. The sides are certainly tolerable and normal, but evident. The stiffness is only really annoying in the morning.

Sometimes I feel really good, like I felt when I was much younger, it's hard to explain but it's a great feeling. I do snap out of bed quicker in the morning, it's just a few hours after the injection that I feel tired.

The point is I'm hoping to heal up and lean up. I want to strengthen connective tissue. Also, hoping for increased vitality, mental focus, etc...

[ScotchGuard]

Deuce, you're right that tumors grow because of substance like IGF which feeds their growth. HGH does enhance the IGF production. However, there has been no definite studies that show that IGF outside the tumor causes tumor growth. All the IGF that the tumor is using is being generated internally to the tumor. Since there's no definitive medical study that shows that IGF outside of the tumor causes tumor growth, I would say what you've heard about HGH making tumors grow is speculative.

[reynaldo]

The point is I'm hoping to heal up and lean up. I want to strengthen connective tissue. Also, hoping for increased vitality, mental focus, etc...

That's exactly what I'm looking for; I'm just looking for a relatively affordable and trustworthy way to do it. I'm hearing prices of upwards of $10 per i.u. for pharm grade gh. And the generics, well, who knows who the hell to trust and what you might end up injecting. Sounds like a minefield out there. Best of luck and let us know how it goes

[The Deuce]

It's all in WHO YOUR SOURCE IS !! And whether or not YOU TRUST THEM... It's not a minefield at ALL.... It's ALL IN WHO YOU TRUST !!

[spooledup]

I backed off from 3iu ED to 2 iu ED.

I was installing a new garage door opener a couple days ago and my toes were very stiff when going up and down the ladder, and got worse for a day or so. Also, I can hardly clinch my fist because my hands/fingers are swollen.

Good red top generics. With this stuff around I'd never pay $10/iu for pharm.