HGH Results - Advice Please

**uncle_bingo** · 10-07-2009, 06:38 PM

Hello all, its been 6 months since I last posted. I have been on HRT for about 6 months now. I am 44 years old and I am currently taking the following hormones on a daily basis. This is what my anti aging doctor has prescribed for me.

300 mg of test (oral/sublingual tablets from a compound pharmacy)
2 IUs of HGH Omnitrope prior to bed
30 MG of Thyroid Armour
75 MG of DHEA
75 MG of Pregnenalone

After 3 months my doctor had ran blood work and found that my HGH levels were high (390 was the number) and my body seems to be producing too much estrogen, so now my doctor has put me on 50 mg of progesterone.

Well anyway, I have been following this HRT program for 6 months now and have seen very little results with fat loss and muscle gain. I work out religiously (weights and cardio) and I have a clean diet. What makes matters worse is that I am actually weaker in the gym. The poundages are substantially less that what I was lifting a year ago? Moreover, I am spending a good chunk on change ($750 per month) on the HGH and I was hoping for better results than this. While the money that I pay for the HGH wont break the bank for me, I was just wondering if my results are common or unusual?

Prior to taking these drugs:
My bodyweight was: 217 pounds
My bodyfat was: 20%

After 6 months:
My bodyweight is: 223
My bodyfat is: 15%

I just thought the fat loss would be greater. Will the fat loss keep dropping down or does it plateau when your are on hgh? Would you guys stick with it or stop taking the HGH.

Any input would really be appreciated.

**ScotchGuard** · 10-08-2009, 10:13 AM

15% bf at 44yo is excellent. The measure of "healthy" amount of bf changes as we get older. I went to run a marathon and got my bf measured. I was at 17%. I was a little disappointed at what I considered was high bf. I look really lean. I was told that "excellent" level of bf for a 50yo (my age) is 19%. I was 2% lower than the "excellent" level. You're doing great at 14%.

About the loss of bf due to HGH, your body will adapt to the HGH after a while. That's why there's no more sides and you can increase your dosage. If you're looking to get leaner you might want to look at thermogenics or clenbuterol . $750/month is a lot to pay for fat loss. I've been on blue tops for 8 months and I feel great and the HGH is keeping me pretty lean even though I'm not eating as clean as I could be.

**DCannon** · 10-08-2009, 10:55 AM

In 6 months you've gained about 16lbs of LBM and lost about 10lbs of fat.

These are pretty decent result in just 6 months.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 10-08-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by DCannon

In 6 months you've gained about 16lbs of LBM and lost about 10lbs of fat.

These are pretty decent result in just 6 months.

No, those are excellent results for 6 months.

**TheMax** · 10-08-2009, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

No, those are excellent results for 6 months.

Agreed!

**Jay_notellin** · 10-08-2009, 10:53 PM

I dont think those are excellent results considering he is paying $750 a month for GH and working out hard. He has a doctor with a full pharmacy at his disposal. He is looking to change his life immediately, yesterday, and his willing to work his ass off. Should have two plans, one to get him were wants to be quickly (and safely) and a second to maintain those results. Just my opinion. I dont know jack about being 44 (i am 35). Just know that for what he is paying a month (in total, kit and caboodle including blood work) I could get him freakin ripped, pay for blood work to verify that (by his doctor) and still have enough left over to lease two lexus'.

Dude, I quit my job two weeks ago. Maybe this is FaTE interCeding? Ha! J/k

HGH does not affect estrogen levels. That is the test, which is amplified by the GH (assume thats 300/wk). Damn, if you were a horse id throw some masteron in you. You would shyt fat. Since you are not a horse, why not go up to 3 IU a night. If 2 IU is, lets say "ok"... 3 should be "good". Its $375 additional a month. Who is counting? Burn that shyt off. Certianly not going to kill you....but will make you stronger!

**reynaldo** · 10-09-2009, 11:42 AM

Is 750 really the going rate for 2iu's/day HGH per month?

**Jay_notellin** · 10-09-2009, 11:53 AM

Only if you are going through a doctor and getting a script.

2 IU a day should run you about $200/month. Depends on what brand you get. Never should pay more than 3$ an IU, so the $200 is a high ball price. I pay around $1.5 and IU.

HGH is really not as expensive as everyone thinks.

**inevitable** · 10-10-2009, 11:10 PM

i would talk to your doctor and see if u guys can come up with an idea to get ur insurance to pay for it 100% 750/month is outrageous.
750 would last me a few months, i get it at $1.25iu.

**reynaldo** · 10-11-2009, 10:55 AM

I hope this is not wrong to ask, but can someone give me a clue as to how they are able to acquire GH so cheaply? Obviously, I'm not asking for a source, a link or anything like that, but just very generally how it's acquired. Is it just a matter of knowing the right people? DO you have to travel overseas and bring it back at some risk? Hope this question doesn't get me banned. Not looking to sound stupid or get anyone in a bad position. Just a note, I'm in the U.S.

**spooledup** · 10-11-2009, 11:42 AM

I'm in the US too and $1.50/IU is a great price. Wish I could get it for that. I pay a little over twice that for generic red tops. They're good, and potent for generic, but still generic.

When you have only one source you trust, you pay their rate or do without. Have to say though, it could be a lot worse, people are paying outrageous money for this stuff.

**Trueblue** · 10-11-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jay_notellin

Only if you are going through a doctor and getting a script.

2 IU a day should run you about $200/month. Depends on what brand you get. Never should pay more than 3$ an IU, so the $200 is a high ball price. I pay around $1.5 and IU.

HGH is really not as expensive as everyone thinks.

WRONG....................pharm grade HGH is going to cost you big bucks, no matter what. $3.00 an iu for some chinese gh, maybe hyges or jins, but not pharm grade from USA. $1.5 will get you generic chinese blues, but not pharm grade.

**Trueblue** · 10-11-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

I'm in the US too and $1.50/IU is a great price. Wish I could get it for that. I pay a little over twice that for generic red tops. They're good, and potent for generic, but still generic.

When you have only one source you trust, you pay their rate or do without. Have to say though, it could be a lot worse, people are paying outrageous money for this stuff.

Are your red tops thanktropin? This is pretty good gh for chinese generic, and yes, red tops are just generic gh from good ol china. There is a HUGE HUGE differance in quality, purity, potency between chinese and american made gh. I do nothing but jintropin, and all my kits I get you can check the serial number on the gensci website for authenticity. Thjis is the best gh you are ever going to find outr of china for a decent price, if you can find REAL jintropin. I have been at this for many years, have done humatrope, omnitrope, serostim, all the chinese brands from blue tops to red tops, etc. hands down the best gh i have ever done was humatrope, but danm near impossible to get without big $$ and/or an RX.
At this point in my life, i have access to true jintropin for a reasonable price, TRUE jintropin. It is as good as any other pharm grade gh except for humatrope of course. I do 2.5iu daily, which costs me about $280 a month, using 70iu per month, and feel great. I am 45 yo, BF% is at 16% according to my last dexascan last month. I also do 200mg test-cyp every week. I am very strong, very active, feel like I am in my 20s and keep up with all my bros when we are playing hard. (riding quads, dirtbikes, hunting, etc). I lift 3 to 4 times a week, but it is no longer a priority tro be as big as I can.
HGH is fantasitic stuff, if in fact the gh you have is real gh. Heck, most ofv the shit, generic shit, (blue tops, yellow tops, red tops, whatever tiops) out of china is not even gh these days. I think that alot of peeps these days that are doing these generic gh out of china are getting the placebo effect.
I know for a fact that the mojority of gh out of china, with the exception of true jintropin, is not gh but some water soluble compound that can freeze dry into a perfect little puck in the bottom of a vial. I would prove this to you now, (I do have proof) but it would break the rules of this board to tell some of the things I know. But again, I have been at this for a long long time.

**spooledup** · 10-11-2009, 01:16 PM

I don't know honestly. How can I tell? They come in 10x10iu kit.

I do trust my source, as he has provided me great AAS from top UGLs for years. It's all I can get from a trusted source so I really didn't ask him for specifics on the GH.

But yeah, I just did a search on thanktropin and people seem to really like it. I've been using it for almost one month at 3iu/ed 5on 2 off and I'm getting some of the more notable minor sides like headache (and I never get headaches), puffy fingers, little knee pain, etc...but I feel great!

Edit: These apparently aren't thinktropin, as they have no labels. They are pressure sealed though.

**JimInAK** · 10-12-2009, 02:41 PM

Genuine blue tops can be had for $1.20 - $1.50 iu, but you have to have a direct Chinese source. They are out there if you look.

**Jay_notellin** · 10-12-2009, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Trueblue

WRONG....................pharm grade HGH is going to cost you big bucks, no matter what. $3.00 an iu for some chinese gh, maybe hyges or jins, but not pharm grade from USA. $1.5 will get you generic chinese blues, but not pharm grade.

You have no idea what the F'ck you are talking about. It is a BIG BIG BIG world out there bro. Big World. Lots of people. Lots of quality HGH products. Dont just look at what is approved in the US....especially the US... It is a well oiled money making machine over here. You get 25% of what you pay for.

**starkiller** · 10-12-2009, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by JimInAK

Genuine blue tops can be had for $1.20 - $1.50 iu, but you have to have a direct Chinese source. They are out there if you look.

Yep! jim's right.

**Trueblue** · 10-18-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jay_notellin;4***214

You have no idea what the F'ck you are talking about. It is a BIG BIG BIG world out there bro. Big World. Lots of people. Lots of quality HGH products. Dont just look at what is approved in the US....especially the US... It is a well oiled money making machine over here. You get 25% of what you pay for.

REALLY??? I had no idea that the world was a BIG BIG BIG WORLD (

). And with lots of people?? Get a grip BRO. Everyone knows that the best gh your going to find is made in the USA. There are other brands out there from other companies/countries that are good quality, but hands down best hgh there is is USA products, i.e. humatrope, serostim, etc. And as to prices? Good quality PHARMACEUTICAL HGH is going to cost you alot of dough no matter what country your in. USA pharm grade products are going to be expensive, but you get what you pay for.
If your fortunate enough, such as myself, to be able to aquire quality pharm grade gh for a reasonable price, then woopy do for you. No need to be a dick about it. You sound like the GH monster from sesame street hell.

take care

**ScotchGuard** · 10-21-2009, 03:40 PM

I do think there is a difference between US pharma grade HGH and generic Blue Tops. The FDA regulates the manufacture of HGH in the US. The regulation is a FAT document. lol, I'm glad I'm not in the medical business. There is very little regulation in the generic market from China. However, I have met Chinese parma that follow US like guide lines for their blue tops. That's why I think it's little bit of a crap shoot when you buy Blue Tops. There are good sources out there from China. You just need to know where to look.

**Trueblue** · 10-21-2009, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by scotchguard

i do think there is a difference between us pharma grade hgh and generic blue tops. The fda regulates the manufacture of hgh in the us. The regulation is a fat document. Lol, i'm glad i'm not in the medical business. There is very little regulation in the generic market from china. However, i have met chinese parma that follow us like guide lines for their blue tops. That's why i think it's little bit of a crap shoot when you buy blue tops. There are good sources out there from china. You just need to know where to look.

^^agreed^^