cjc1295 and ghrp6 (plus hgh?)

**TallMan** · 11-26-2009, 12:40 PM

Is it advisible to use some hgh when you're cyclin cjc1295 and ghrp6?

**The Deuce** · 11-26-2009, 02:37 PM

YES, in fact, that's the BEST way to run it.. Gets the Pituitary firing real NICE LIKE and Results come the way they should !!

**ScotchGuard** · 11-28-2009, 05:56 AM

I've read that HGH and cjc1295 shots should be spaced about an hour apart. I've always wondered about taking both at once since one is a synthetic HGH which replaces/adds to the naturally secreted GH. While cjc1295 makes your pituitary secrete more GH. I wondered if they wouldn't cancel each other out. From what I read it should be fine.

Deuce, what's your dosage for both? I'm interested in trying GHRP-6. Hope I'm not hijacking this thread. But the next question after are they synergistic would be the best dosage/timing.

**The Deuce** · 11-28-2009, 08:22 AM

"Studies have demonstrated that if some GH is administered during a time when a natural pulse is occurring the body will see this as one big pulse that gets up and down and will not interfere or give negative feedback such that subsequent natural pulses are inhibited. So a little GH can be give "in phase" (i.e. during a rising natural pulse) and there will be no interference with continued natural GH release.

If the GH is administered out of phase (i.e. during a trough when GH pulse is not naturally occurring) then there will be negative inhibition of natural GH release.

Now the amount of GH to be used is significant. If it is too high it will be elevated for too long... like the graphs above as Bob stated.

The mode of administration is important. IM is a quicker release then subcutaneous. The best mode of release is via IV. All of the GH hits at the same time w/ IV and in fact a 20iu dose is considered pulsatile because it is in and out in a short period of time.

I was talking to someone on my facebook page (they just pop up on my screen )and they are planning to do the combo w/ 20iu IV dosed GH. That will be an interesting experiment. I hope we get reports from it.

My feeling with IM dosing is that several iu can be used. IF you are going to generate your own pulse with GHRP-2 then you may be able to use 4iu.

Okay now that you understand that I want you to understand that rather then wait around for a natural pulse to occur (difficult to know) we create one with a GHRP. The one we are choosing is GHRP-2.

GHRP-2 will turn down the influence of somatostatin. Remember we have pulses in part because somatostatin (the inhibiting hormone) is turned on and it stops GH release. GHRP-2 when it is injected will reduce somatostatin's influence at that moment and increase GHRH's (the positive hormone) influence.

So GHRP-2 can be administered to start a pulse. OR if you have the funds GHRP-2/mod GRF(1-29)=cjc-1295 to create a strong pulse. Ten minutes later you can administer synthetic GH. If the dose is correct the body will see this as one big and a bit prolonged pulse.

I have used 4ius IM before and would not go beyond that. You want the GH-receptor complex to have time off so that Stat5b signaling can reset and be strong when the next pulse occurs.

I know you have the synthetic GH and plan to pulse it but will always work better with GHRP-2. If you have the funds add mod GRF(1-29)=cjc-1295 to GHRP-2. If not GHRP-2 will suffice.

I would suggest 100-250mcg of GHRP-2 w/ 100mcg to 500mcgs of mod GRF(1-29)= cjc-1295 if you have it... wait 10 minutes and inject 2iu - 4iu of synthetic GH. You need time off when the pulses and GH round shape come back down to reset stat5b' signalling.

If you have 8iu of GH I would split it across three dosings a day." <-----dat's info for you